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I just used the google to try and find the UK piece linked to by DailyKos, NSA Analyst Proves GOP Is Stealing Elections. I only got 7 hits for vote flipping when searching the news.
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My hair started standing on end.
Note that one of the links is to the article by Mike Collins from several days ago.
At one time we were hoping that some larger news outlets would report on this story. Instead, they seem to be purging the interwebs somehow.
Since Ive been writing this post, the link to the Tuscon Citizen has been pulled down.
Are we ready, from a legal and tactical standpoint, for a response to races being flipped in this election? All of the signs show that they are moving forward with this project to steal races by vote flipping. I honestly dont think they can get away with it, since they will be caught red-handed this time, as soon as the precint counts come in. Anyone who uses Xcel will be able to check for themselves.
I am not panicking, far from it, but I do think there should be plan in place to respond to this.
I am not a lawyer, but I do believe that any races that are stolen using this technique should be challenged in court.
I also believe that if the courts refuse to correct these vote counts back to their original totals, then the courts should be challenged in the House and Senate.
The battleground is set and dawn is breaking. We must have unity on this in order to win, regardless of what path we take. The side with the most unity will be seen as the strongest, and will be followed. We should shun any of our leadeship who is not with us on this. They will be the ones who will do us, and the world, the most damage by making us look incoherant.
That is all.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Broward County At It Again....
"An analysis of the unofficial totals by early voting location on the Broward Supervisor of Elections website from Saturday, compared to the tallies posted on Sunday, shows that in one location, the E. Pat Larkins Community Center, located on Martin Luther King Blvd. in Pompano Beach, the revised totals showed 1,003 fewer votes. The initial tally reported from the polling place in the heavily black neighborhood showed 2,945 votes, but the revised tally was 1,401. Across the 17 Broward polling locations, 15 saw their vote totals revised, mostly by minute amounts of between 1 and 7 votes. But the three more significant changes, including the addition of 398 votes in Tamarac (a racially mixed community) and adding 99 votes to the totals from Pompano Beach City Hall, whose demographic is majority white.
The revisions mean that 536 fewer total votes were reported in Broward a reduction from 28,330 votes to 27,794 votes. That could be significant in a close election in a state where the presidential contest was decided by just 538 votes in 2000."
LOOK AT THE CHART
http://thegrio.com/2012/10/29/florida-early-vote-totals-revised-raising-questions/#13515610197481&235px
reusrename
(1,716 posts)Vote spoilage, or missing votes, is how they stole 2000. There is a completely different legal response to that.
Electronic vote flipping, as far as I know, has never been caught-in-the-act before.
This will be new legal (and political) ground.
We have to make sure we don't confuse things.
Vote flipping is not spoilage.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)I think I might be the only one on DU not ready to immediately cry "conspiracy!" if we lose.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)but I will run our returns through Xcel and look to see if they flipped any votes.
That's for sure.
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global1
(25,246 posts)either.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)I don't think the rest of the world is going to sit silently by while they try and take this forward.
It will be known as soon as results come in whether or not they flipped any votes.
This has never happened before, nor anything like it, that I know of.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I just also did a search for vote flipping and got 11,000,000 results. I only looked at the first 3 pages, but they were all articles on "vote flipping".....no "flipping out over my vote" sort of thing.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)I still get 7 results.
I am looking for news articles.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)although I still have a lot more that 7 results, even if I remove the "flipping a coin to vote" types.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)I was searching for particular results on this specific subject.
They are pulling all of the articles on this subject now. They were there before. I read many of them. And, even the ones that are still up, like the UK one mentioned in the OP, do not appear in the "google news" search.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)"news article" that was done by that Michael guy. It may have been a research paper or something that was released.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)Clint Curtis testified before John Conyer's committee about "vote flipping" software.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1970820
This made the news.
madokie
(51,076 posts)that when the Democratic party vote gets above the republicon party vote to flip a few of the next few counted votes. No way could we check it. If that or something like it is happening and they steal this election there will be nothing that we can ever do as we'll have lost our democracy. Its not important who votes, its important who counts those votes. Never forget that.
The main stream media has been feeding us this narrative that the rMoney camp is kicking ass even when we can see and hear for ourselves that President Obama is in the lead, except of course for the pukes and the M$M that is
reusrename
(1,716 posts)The particular technique that is being used to flip votes leaves leaves a specific linear slope as an artifact in the vote counts. It is a very straightforward routine to calculate what this slope is, then reverse the formula to restore the original data. This can be done with 100% accuracy and to within a precision (margin of error) that can also be easily determined.
They show how to do this in Figure 7, Page 9, of the September 2012 PDF below.
Evidence of Algorithm Vote Flipping in GOP Primary Elections Layman's Executive Summary
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumZzI2bVlON2VTMnFyYVZZSnpDYnNyQQ/edit?pli=1
Significant Evidence of Algorithmic Vote Flipping in the 2012 GOP Primary
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumdkE4d0Y2eWtURTZ2eDM5RmlLc3ZhQQ/edit?pli=1
Republican Primary Election 2012 Results: Amazing Statistical Anomalies August 13, 2012
http://www.themoneyparty.org/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Republican-Primary-Election-Results-Amazing-Statistical-Anomalies_V2.0.pdf
2008/2012 Election Anomalies, Results, Analysis and Concerns September 2012
http://www.themoneyparty.org/main/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2008_2012_ElectionsResultsAnomaliesAndAnalysis_V1.51.pdf
madokie
(51,076 posts)I doubt that it will be
reusrename
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Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Good luck proving to them their candidate didn't win.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)When teachers start showing 10th graders how to do this math, it will change things here.
In the mean time, the world is watching.
nebenaube
(3,496 posts)Invoke the patriot act and audit the freakin' source code.
reusrename
(1,716 posts)The source code is key.
As long as all the machines in the county are running identical code, then it is impossible to keep this particular hack from being completely obvious just by looking at the official vote counts.
madokie
(51,076 posts)But Patriot act wasn't for us, it was for them to protect themselves from us
Media Lies
(56 posts)It's not "interwebs," according to George W Bush Jr. They are called "internets."
reusrename
(1,716 posts)when big Al built it, it was called the information superhighway.
valerief
(53,235 posts)reusrename
(1,716 posts)The Google has purged "vote flipping" from its news searches.
Here's bradblog coming up under a "google news" search:
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Now, look in the OP, there is nothing for bradblog when you search "google news" for "vote flipping"
valerief
(53,235 posts)live love laugh
(13,104 posts)raised Romney to a level where it is now believable for him to steal the election. Don't assume Obama will prevail (win yes--prevail no).
reusrename
(1,716 posts)They have their own polling outfits now,in order to skew the public expectations.
I suspect the Elizabeth Warren/Scott Brown race will be flipped. They are playing the expectation game there.