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AaronMayorga

(128 posts)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:16 PM Oct 2012

FiveThirtyEight Updated! - 10/28/2012

FiveThirtyEight has been updated for October 28th, 2012.

Nov. 6 Forecast: Electoral Vote: 296.6 Obama, 241.4 Romney (PBO: Up 1.1 from yesterday) / Chance of Winning: Obama 74.6%, Romney 25.4% (PBO: Up 1%) / Popular Vote: 50.4% Obama, 48.7% Romney (PBO: Up .1%)


Interestingly, FiveThirtyEight's Now Cast is now in sync with the Princeton Election Consortium's projection.

538 Now: Electoral Vote: 299.6 Obama, 238.2 Romney / PEC Projection: 300 Obama, 238 Romney

Edit: Seems like my projection of 303 Obama, 235 Romney is coming true!
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FiveThirtyEight Updated! - 10/28/2012 (Original Post) AaronMayorga Oct 2012 OP
Good news - thanks so much for posting!! Kber Oct 2012 #1
Real clear politics has Obama at 290 and rmoney at 248 mucifer Oct 2012 #2
19 toss ups has me a little nervous, but I'll take it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2012 #3
but 19 salinen Oct 2012 #30
Kick! ananda Oct 2012 #4
BO is 80.1% in the now cast BainsBane Oct 2012 #5
good news i like what i see. JanT Oct 2012 #6
Hi! I`m another Democrat from WA. Sadiedog Oct 2012 #14
Yippie skippy Thekaspervote Oct 2012 #7
Woo Hoo! Thanks for the update, Aaron! nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #8
Slow but sure! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #9
How sweet it is. ISW Oct 2012 #10
Made my night! DesertRat Oct 2012 #11
Don't get complacent, anybody! We don't have this thing locked in yet. calimary Oct 2012 #12
Especially when the "bad guys" own the voting machines!! lobodons Oct 2012 #19
What is upping his chances? regards uponit7771 Oct 2012 #13
My guess is Ohio seems solid and is not moving toward Romney Quixote1818 Oct 2012 #18
K&R Zombie squirrel approved Ellipsis Oct 2012 #15
ok, can we stop now and just go with the projections? mountain grammy Oct 2012 #16
A.M. - Fantastic 12AngryBorneoWildmen Oct 2012 #17
My prediction Mkap Oct 2012 #20
We may know the results of Ohio going for Obama before we know who wins Virginia Quixote1818 Oct 2012 #22
I still don't trust the e voting machines! B Calm Oct 2012 #21
. Ellipsis Oct 2012 #23
Giddeyup! Bigredhunk Oct 2012 #24
I will not relax until Rmoney concedes KauaiK Oct 2012 #25
Personally I would like to see him above 300 jonthebru Oct 2012 #26
We need to win by a large margin or they will attempt to steal it as in 2004. go west young man Oct 2012 #27
I keep thinking about 2004... lexw Oct 2012 #28
Too close to call. Kurovski Oct 2012 #29

mucifer

(23,539 posts)
2. Real clear politics has Obama at 290 and rmoney at 248
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

electoral-vote.com has Obama 284 rmoney at 235 and 19 toss up.

not bad guys!

JanT

(229 posts)
6. good news i like what i see.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:30 PM
Oct 2012

Gobama! i have voted and so far everyone i have talked has voted also. we are all counting on a great win for Obama and other Dems in Wash state. Mr President

calimary

(81,238 posts)
12. Don't get complacent, anybody! We don't have this thing locked in yet.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:58 PM
Oct 2012

Gonna be battling the bad guys all the way to the bitter end.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
19. Especially when the "bad guys" own the voting machines!!
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:24 AM
Oct 2012

Taggs voting machines in Ohio and Kathy "don't worry, I'll bring the computer back in the morning" Nicklaus in Wisconsin.

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
18. My guess is Ohio seems solid and is not moving toward Romney
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:20 AM
Oct 2012

and with each passing day this seems more and more clear. If it were going to close we would be seeing some movement by now. Also, Virgina and Colorado have now swung slightly into Obama's column giving him some insurance if Ohio were to fall through.

17. A.M. - Fantastic
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:20 AM
Oct 2012

Style points advice. Make these points- Edit: Seems like my projection of 303 Obama, 235 Romney is coming true!-to real asshole Romney/Ryan backers before AND after it's actualized.

Mkap

(223 posts)
20. My prediction
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:24 AM
Oct 2012

My prediction for the battleground states

Romney wins Flordia, Virginia and NC

Obama wins Iowa, Ohio, NH, Wisconsin, Colorado, and Nevada

If Virginia goes Obama's way then we will really now that Romney is screwed

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
22. We may know the results of Ohio going for Obama before we know who wins Virginia
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:43 AM
Oct 2012

Virginia is going to be paper thin! But you are right if Virginia goes into Obama's column early, it will mean certain disaster for Romney!

KauaiK

(544 posts)
25. I will not relax until Rmoney concedes
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 12:53 AM
Oct 2012

The GOP thugs in the various states together with the war chest of Karl Rove et al will try to steal the election and/or tie up the election results with lawsuits to take to the Supremes. I will admit, however, that Silver in sync with Princeton is encouraging!

jonthebru

(1,034 posts)
26. Personally I would like to see him above 300
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:26 AM
Oct 2012

but its just a number. Turn out or GOTV; whatever it is called, is the most critical thing.
I know how I feel, I can imagine there are millions of voters who feel a similar anxiety as I do.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
27. We need to win by a large margin or they will attempt to steal it as in 2004.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:30 AM
Oct 2012

Remember who owns the machines. From Wikipedia.

The 2004 election brought new attention to the issue of exit polls.[49] Discrepancies existed between early exit poll information and the officially reported results. These discrepancies led some, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair, to prematurely conclude that Kerry won the election.[50] Expert opinion was divided concerning what inferences should be drawn from the cited discrepancies.[51][52]
Mitofsky International, the company responsible for exit polling for the National Election Pool and its member news organizations, released a report detailing the 2004 election's exit polling.[53] At issue were the early release of some poll information, issues regarding correcting exit poll data using actual voter totals, and differences between exit polls and official results.
The NEP report stated that "the size of the average exit poll error ... was higher in 2004 than in previous years for which we have data." and that exit polling estimates overstated Kerry's share of the vote in 26 states by more than one standard error and overestimated Bush's share in 4 states by more than one standard error.[53] It concluded that these discrepancies between the exit polls and the official results were "most likely due to Kerry voters participating in the exit polls at a higher rate than Bush voters". Polling expert John Zogby later called this explanation "preposterous".[54] The NEP report further stated that "Exit polls do not support the allegations of fraud due to rigging of voting equipment. Our analysis of the difference between the vote count and the exit poll at each polling location in our sample has found no systematic differences for precincts using touch screen and optical scan voting equipment."[53]
A study performed by the Caltech / MIT Voting Technology Project concluded that "there is no evidence, based on exit polls, that electronic voting machines were used to steal the 2004 election for President Bush."[55] This study was criticized for using data that had been corrected to match the official count, and thus "essentially analyzing rounding error".[56] On December 5, 2004 Charles Stewart III of MIT released a revised report which, he said, used pre-corrected data.[57] Two days later, however, Warren Mitofsky, who had overseen the exit polling, stated that the pre-corrected data were proprietary and would not be released.[58]
One paper (and a follow-up book) concluded that discrepancies in the exit polls were evidence that the election results were off,[59][60] though others alleged this paper was unscientific.[61][62]
Following the 2004 election, researchers looked at ways in which polling methodologies might be flawed[63] and explored ways to improve polling in the future.[64

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lexw

(804 posts)
28. I keep thinking about 2004...
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:42 AM
Oct 2012

I remember relaxing early in the afternoon thinking we had it, and my right-wing co-workers were frowning—one of them even saying "Looks like we got another Democrat for a president." I recall hearing Bush saying, "I've done all I can...." with a smirk (if I remember correctly).

Then, around 6pm...suddenly...Bush was on top. I was shocked!!

This race is toooo close....I'll never relax in an election again.

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