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Sat Oct 27, 2012, 03:59 PM

OK. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! No more Republicans in my life. If you're greedy enough, dumb enough, selfish

enough or racist enough to vote for Romney, why on earth do I want you in my life? I've cut off 3 family members and 5 Facebook friends and I feel so much better. No more insanity in my life. Let them wallow in their own crap. I need some fresh air and sunlight!!!

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Reply OK. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! No more Republicans in my life. If you're greedy enough, dumb enough, selfish (Original post)
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 OP
amuse bouche Oct 2012 #1
russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #2
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #89
russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #91
dvduval Oct 2012 #3
duggie99 Oct 2012 #4
Gregorian Oct 2012 #5
CrispyQ Oct 2012 #6
LeftofObama Oct 2012 #7
Helen Reddy Oct 2012 #8
FLyellowdog Oct 2012 #9
deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #25
FLyellowdog Oct 2012 #39
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #90
craigmatic Oct 2012 #10
underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #47
-LOKI -BAD FOR YA Oct 2012 #69
femrap Oct 2012 #11
greytdemocrat Oct 2012 #12
glinda Oct 2012 #13
silverweb Oct 2012 #14
deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #28
TomScheu Oct 2012 #15
uppityperson Oct 2012 #19
TomScheu Oct 2012 #21
TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #32
deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #36
Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #77
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #42
grantcart Oct 2012 #50
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #54
progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #57
grantcart Oct 2012 #58
Duppers Oct 2012 #75
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #60
eridani Oct 2012 #67
Duppers Oct 2012 #78
deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #31
uppityperson Oct 2012 #38
Hugabear Oct 2012 #23
nichomachus Oct 2012 #24
marions ghost Oct 2012 #49
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #61
eridani Oct 2012 #68
marions ghost Oct 2012 #81
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #63
riverbendviewgal Oct 2012 #26
marions ghost Oct 2012 #51
ciking724 Oct 2012 #43
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #62
lunatica Oct 2012 #16
TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #30
lunatica Oct 2012 #35
dvhughes Oct 2012 #17
PABigDaddyDemocrat Oct 2012 #18
Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #44
PABigDaddyDemocrat Nov 2012 #118
deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #20
Lifelong Protester Oct 2012 #22
TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #27
penndragon69 Oct 2012 #29
upi402 Oct 2012 #33
lindysalsagal Oct 2012 #34
dsharp88 Oct 2012 #37
UTUSN Oct 2012 #40
Raine Oct 2012 #41
Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #45
treestar Oct 2012 #85
ffr Oct 2012 #46
SalviaBlue Oct 2012 #48
mythology Oct 2012 #52
adigal Oct 2012 #53
Dan Oct 2012 #65
LittlestStar Oct 2012 #55
progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #56
cherish44 Oct 2012 #59
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #64
Zalatix Oct 2012 #66
Seeking Serenity Oct 2012 #97
coldwaterintheface Oct 2012 #70
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #73
Duppers Oct 2012 #71
Glitterati Oct 2012 #72
Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #74
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #76
demwing Oct 2012 #82
Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #87
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #95
Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #101
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #103
demwing Oct 2012 #100
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #92
Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #104
WooWooWoo Oct 2012 #79
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #93
Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #109
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #114
William769 Oct 2012 #80
Carolina Oct 2012 #83
lonestarnot Oct 2012 #84
tritsofme Oct 2012 #86
Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #88
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #96
Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #102
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #105
Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #108
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #110
Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #111
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #113
Zorra Oct 2012 #107
Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #112
coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #94
Zorra Oct 2012 #98
mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #99
Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #106
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #115
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #116
BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #117

Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:02 PM

1. Congrats

I've done that ever since Bush. I have zero tolerance of republiclowns and don't regret a minute of it

Life is too short.Why waste any of it on them?

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:03 PM

2. I did it in 2008 and it worked out just fine.

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Response to russspeakeasy (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:52 AM

89. I did it in Nov 2002 (run up to Operation Shocking and Awful). No regrets

 

whatsoever. As soon as I know someone is a Rape-publican I cease any social interaction or contact with them.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #89)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:02 PM

91. 100 %

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:08 PM

3. Me too

I have only unfriended one so far. I called him when he made racist sounding comments and he wouldn't back down.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:16 PM

4. Amen

I decided we have nothing in common especially values so good bye is freeing. I would not want to spend my off time with them. Got rid of Tea Bagger on FB and felt so free!!!!

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:16 PM

5. Wow, that has been my MO since, well...forever.

I mean it. I grew up in the most liberal neighborhood in America. It's so refreshing to talk to the old 90 year olds who still live there. It's like they have BRAINS. Oh, and common sense.

Even as a six year old, I knew the one lady in our neigborhood who was conservative was a turd. We threw rocks in her swimming pool, over and over. Her name was something like Freddenrich. We called her Mrs. Freddenwitch.

How people can associate with the conservative mindset is beyond me. Go hit yourselves with hammers.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:33 PM

6. Here was my comment in another thread about repub acquaintances.

I'm also starting to question friends & acquaintances who vote for them. If you know about this & still support them, shame on you. If you don't know about this & are an ignorant, low-info voter, shame on you. Either fucking way, if you are a repub, shame on you.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:35 PM

7. I cut them out of my life a long time ago.

It's truly liberating!

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:36 PM

8. You deserve a pat on the back!

 

Well done.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:41 PM

9. I'm gradually heading that way too.

I hate it because I spend time in both NC and FL and almost ALL of my friends in both states are republicans. It's a shame, but true, that I have very few close liberal friends. I guess that's why I spend so much time on DU.

While I find that all of these friends have basically been good friends, I actually believe that I cannot trust them because their core beliefs are so different from mine. I used to think it was a religion based biase, but now I think it's racism pure and simple.

I'm so disappointed in them but now that I look back over the years of associating with them through our work, it explains a lot of things. I taught special education and they were so hateful to and bigotted about my students that it broke my heart. That was just the way they were and as it turns out, they still are and will always be.

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Response to FLyellowdog (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:58 PM

25. I feel your pain

I am trapped in BumbleFuck, Pennsylvania, land of religion and guns (Obama wasn't kidding). Just biding my time here in Stenchylvania till I can get back home to my beloved liberal Portland, OR.

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Response to deadbrokediva (Reply #25)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:09 PM

39. Hope you get to move sooner than later.

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Response to FLyellowdog (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:55 AM

90. Make no mistake, they'll see you sent to a concentration camp and not lose a moment's

 

sleep over it. Oh sure, they might not be running the trains to Auschwitz or guarding the camp, but they'll be lined up behind whatever fascist authoritarian shithead is running the trains and guarding the camps, even if you're one of the incarcerated.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:15 PM

10. As democrats it's our duty to convert these poor ignorant, misguided republicans.

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Response to craigmatic (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:34 PM

47. Good luck with that.

Not saying it's not impossible but good luck none the less. Unless they show a modicum of intelligence I won't waste any time trying to convert any.

Greedy, lying, losers most of em.

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Response to underseasurveyor (Reply #47)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:52 AM

69. when i think of the gop i have visions of the zombie apocalypse,millions of gop voting

people can lose prospective if trapped in a bubble.i once belonged to a group which i thought had the same idea world view.i wanted but i found resistant when i asked questions. i feeled constrained so i left ,the thing was for awhile i feel guilty.it is a powerful deterrence from leaving .but you had to want to leave .no one can save you except your self .

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:22 PM

11. I did that back in 2004 when

 

people I knew voted for W the SECOND TIME.

I don't miss them one iota.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:29 PM

12. Good for you sunshine!!! n/t

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:39 PM

13. Me too.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:39 PM

14. I still can't cut off a handful of people.

People I disagree profoundly with on almost everything, but am very closely related to. I even actively dislike a couple of them, but we still have blood bonds. Fortunately, we have to interact only rarely.

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:50 PM

19. Maybe you missed the word "OR"? And no. It is fear that push people towards the conservative side.

"If you're greedy enough, dumb enough, selfish enough or racist enough to vote for Romney".

See the word "or"?

And yes. We live in a country of free will and free choice and laws and rules and regulations. Yet you say "shame" to someone with a choice different from yours.

Why did you sign up on DU? I am curious.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #19)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:53 PM

21. Reply

 

I do not shame people for having a different choice that I do, I shame people for disowning family and friends for having different views than they do.

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:04 PM

32. And if they just won't let it alone?

I have relatives that never stop peddling their RW BS. Enough.

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:06 PM

36. It's hardly YOUR choice to decide that

Have you considered that maybe some of us who choose to get rid of family members because of their beliefs have maybe suffered at the hands of these people as well? I know I have. And to have to have their racist and misogynistic attitudes forced on me my entire life has robbed me of having a proper family, so who are you to judge how others handle their family matters?

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Response to deadbrokediva (Reply #36)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:43 AM

77. I can confirm this too

It sucks and it's like this unconscious kind of mental abuse. It's like this strange miasma of republican and abuser that it's hard to tell which came first. One reinforces the other and just compounds their dysfunctional personality to which we are subjected. It's a horrific kind if relationship to be trapped in because not every person can understand what we're talking about. It's like being one of those people being operated on while awake but unable to move or scream. You just want this person to go away and yet you can't get them to go away. And once you're free of them, you never want to see them again.

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:26 PM

42. You think that's what you're doing? You're not shaming anyone here.

Maybe you're more successful with it elsewhere. Doubt it. I doubt you're successful at much of anything that matters.

Enjoy your brief stay, troll? Didn't think so. Good. Enjoy that pizza with your tombstone.

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:47 PM

50. Tom are you the same idiotic Tom Scheu that sells real estate in Downer's Grove IL and wrote

this sophmoric dribble?




https://www.realtown.com/community/RealTalk/view/PPDAFPA

https://www.realtown.com/members/tomscheu

Despite the media's infatuation with President Obama, you recognize his history and his current actions are way too far left for even your comfort. If it was not for the first amendment, people like Michelle Malkin, Glenn Beck, and even Fox News in general would not have the chance of even being heard. If their voices were not heard, just imagine how much further we would already be along the path of lost freedoms and away from the very reasons why our ancestors fled to America in the 1700's.



When trolling at DU it is generally a good idea not to post in your name and leave a direct line to your real life idiocy.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #50)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:23 AM

54. Lol!

Well done, grantcart!

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Response to grantcart (Reply #50)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:49 AM

57. what kind of idiot writes that stuff on their BUSINESS page?? Umm liberals outnumber conservatives

Oh Tom.. you're screwing yourself out of 51% of potential business, as I wouldn't give a dime to anyone with such regressive and ignorant views!!

And the irony here, that folks like Tom miss, is that the housing market is BAAACK!! Yep. Bush destroyed it in 2007/2008, and now it's going gangbusters. Oh, and the interest rates are low, more people are employed and BUYING homes (added millions of jobs IN America, NOT China!!) Consumer confidence is up, spending is up, and banks are lending again.

But yeah... Tom and is ilk in the real estate biz think that bazillinaires like Malkin and Beck are looking out for them.. LOLZ.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #57)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:22 AM

58. Tom has an extensive network of exactly two, lol.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #50)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:12 AM

75. Good job.

I hope he's tombstoned.

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:23 AM

60. Just because someone is related to me by blood doesn't give them a free pass.

Especially family members who never hesitate to regurgitate their foul opinions without taking the time to know the issues. There is no crime in deciding who you
want in your life. Just because you are a brother or sister, this doesn't give
carte blanche to say or do anything you want because you are my "blood." I want
people of character in my life. Family members can lack character too. Especially
the ones who treat ME like it is ME who is foul and ignorant for voting Democrat.

If you are uncaring, selfish, and bigoted, I have no room for you in my life,
especially after I have spent hours and hours and hours trying to understand you and your ignorance. Stupid is as stupid does. Don't forget the "Serenity Prayer" .. I don't allow people to dump their trash in my living room. Why should I allow them to dump their mental trash in my mind?

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Response to BigBearJohn (Reply #60)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:53 AM

67. I can never read that without mentally altering the last sentence to--

--and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because THEY PISSED ME OFF!

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Response to BigBearJohn (Reply #60)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:44 AM

78. Amen!!!

and I'll quote you.



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Response to uppityperson (Reply #19)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:04 PM

31. I am curious why YOU are here.

Personally, I'm beyond caring about people having "different opinions". All of us here on DU KNOW what the correct opinion is, and it's not to be racist, ignorant, greedy and selfish like the Thugs are. Whose side are you on, anyway?

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Response to deadbrokediva (Reply #31)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:07 PM

38. Me? Why am I here? Maybe you meant to reply to TomScheu who is now gone.

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:57 PM

23. Defending racist assholes, how nice

Why should we tolerate those who hate people simply for the color of their skin, who they choose to love, etc? Why should we tolerate those wage war on women?

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:58 PM

24. Maybe you're not paying attention

This isn't just a case of political differences. Political differences are when both sides want to achieve the same goal but disagree on how to get there. For example, if both parties wanted to find a way to help the middle class and they disagreed over the method to get there, that would be a political difference. In the current case, the Democrats want to help the middle class, and the Republicans want to destroy it. They have said out loud they want to hurt women, they want to hurt the middle class, they want to hurt gays, they want to destroy unions, they want to destroy Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. They want to take healthcare away from people.

In short, they are traitors to the American way of life. For me, this isn't just a "difference of opinion."

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #24)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:45 PM

49. it's more than "differences"

I think you nailed it--Republicons want to hurt people, knock them down, Dems want to help people, lift them up.

Sad that it has come down to this.

I say to anyone who has the courage to get out of disturbing/toxic relationships, no matter what it takes. You won't have many regrets.


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Response to marions ghost (Reply #49)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:31 AM

61. I can't help but wonder how many lives have been ruined under the banner of "family"?

You CAN choose your family -- family is more than blood... that's for SURE.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Reply #61)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:57 AM

68. Armisted Maupin once said that he much preferred his "logical family"--

--to his "biological family".

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Response to BigBearJohn (Reply #61)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 09:53 AM

81. True--but I think it's very hard to reject family

especially if there ARE some things you still like about them, or if their "turn for the worse" has happened fairly recently. Or if you forgive them for being stupid enough to fall for the biggest pack of lies ever constructed to manipulate the American people.

And then there's how the comparison with people who are close to their families becomes its own kind of hurt. That longing for connection with kin doesn't magically go away.

It takes a strong person to draw the line, and the road to acceptance of a split must be experienced as a grieving and letting go process. Not every body has the strength to go through that willingly.

I've had to do it--to realize that the bond I thought was there, was probably my own delusion. Because people who love you do not disrespect you or vomit hate speech on you. I have come to think of the bonds symbolically as strings of love from my heart to another's. And when you come to the end with that person, you realize that these strings are gone. You have achieved the final severance which cannot be repaired (or at least you give up all HOPE of repair).

When you get rid rid of those who are hurting you--you have room in your life for those who you can trust NOT to hurt you.
They are out there.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #24)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:39 AM

63. Wish I said that. Hit the nail on the head.

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:00 PM

26. i tried your method with my brother

I sent snopes links in response to his misinformed emails about Obama and the democrats. He would never reply but send me more hate.. I did ask him to send no more political emails but they just kept coming. The last straw was when actually said he would be happy to see someone take Obama out. I no longer answer, call or write him. I ignore all his hate mails. He still sends them. Our dad died in 2000. Our mom died 2 years ago but she too hated Obama. They both hate him because he is black. I consider myself an orphan. It works for me.

This is my reply to tomshu. Which I wonder if you are pro Romney.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #26)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:48 PM

51. sometimes you have to let them go....

not easy

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Response to TomScheu (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:34 PM

43. I don't think its just that they vote against Obama; these ignorant people are voting

against their own interests and the best interests of the country. It would be different if Romney actually stood for something, but he doesn't, and the only reason they are voting for him is because of blind, racist hatred, pure and simple. I am beginning to see this myself. In 2008, I stopped going to the only church I have attended in this city since I moved here in 2001, because I love the church and the pastor, but I did not like the hateful rhetoric spewed by some of the ministry staff; I just did not want to risk falling out with the church and thought I would go back after the election. Well, I did go back, but it wasn't the same, so I dropped out completely.

I have also been volunteering for a Christian organization headed by someone who supports Romney. At a recent board meeting, one of the members started laughing with another member about the Clint Eastwood incident at the convention and seemed to champion the threat of violence if anyone messed with him. After the meeting, I called him out about it and told him I thought it was shameful that Christians could speak that way, especially after what happened to Gabby Giffords. The Director usually tries to steer away from politics when I am present because she knows I am a Dem and support President Obama, and I try to stay out of their conversations just to keep the peace, but those days are over.

There just isn't any reasoning with them. They are blinded by hatred. They go on and on about the poor unborn children being aborted, but do you think they would adopt an unwanted child? Heck no. And the thing that gets me is they support capital punishment. And they go on tirades about how God is going to judge the country because of homosexuality, like he did Sodom and Gomorrah, when the truth is there were also some heterosexuals involved in the idolatry and sexual perversion at Sodom and Gomorrah. They believe everything Fixed Noise tells them, and it just seems a waste of time sometimes to argue with them.

So I understand well how those who've posted here feel when they say they've cut them off. I haven't completely given up yet, but getting there.

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Response to ciking724 (Reply #43)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:38 AM

62. I don't condemn my family members, I just choose whom I want to associate with. AND THAT INCLUDES

WHICH FAMILY MEMBERS I CARE TO INCLUDE. I just decided I am tired of trying to make excuses for them. They can go off and have their own lives. I wish them no ill will. But -- I don't wish myself any ill will either. I refuse to allow ANY family member to continue to shove my face in the proverbial "shit" and expect me to take it because "they are family." NO MORE. My best friend used to tell me "John, you can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit, no matter how hard you try." Time for a new life. I will join hands with people of true moral character, those whom I respect and truly love, and will make my OWN family -- my own community.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:46 PM

16. Presidential election years put everyone to the test

and it is one of those times when people show what they're really like.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:02 PM

30. Trouble is, these "election years" run for four years.

Election 2016 will be under way Nov. 7th.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #30)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:06 PM

35. So will the Congressional elections

LOL!

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:48 PM

17. You are right to do it

I had the exact same epiphany several months ago but have yet to pull the trigger.
Why should I waste my time with people that are so willingly, so proudly, so selfish?
And why would I associate with such people? It is a poor reflection on me.

These are the same people that were so steadfast in their support of voting for person of such low standard as Sarah Palin to be the Vice President. Sarah Frikking Palin fer Chrisssakes! Do they have such colossal disrespect not only for the office but for their country? It is truly bewildering.

I was taking to my wife about this idea not long ago, and she says I should go ahead and cut the cord.
The time is coming.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:48 PM

18. Whatever gets you through the night.

I keep my friends close and my enemies closer.
I have spirited debates and enjoy it.
Perhaps though, if you were running into abusive comments or your debates were going nowhere, you're better off.
To each their own.

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Response to PABigDaddyDemocrat (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:59 PM

44. Welcome to DU PA Big Daddy

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #44)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 06:37 PM

118. thanks!

sorry for the delay in responding to your warm greeting. glad to be here.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:50 PM

20. Been there, done that

I refuse to have RAPEublicans in my life to any extent. I too have cut off family members (assholes to begin with, so no big loss) and I actually did once try to reach out to Republicans to exchange dialogue in a friendly manner so I can understand where they come from and while it may have started off friendly, it would take only two or three emails before they would begin their bullying and insults and showing their true sociopathic colors, NOT TO MENTION THE ALL CAPS AND 15 EXCLAMATION POINTS BIT.

In fact, I would take the shunning of RAPEublicans to a whole 'nother level. I am 100% in favor of political segregation. I say cut the country in half - Thugs on the East Coast, rational intelligent people (libs) on the West - and elect two separate Presidents or "co-Presidents" - I don't know, I don't have all the bugs worked out, but you get what I mean. Let them have the dream country they want with no abortions for anyone, no gays, no blacks, no illegals, and rampant hunger because they don't believe in food stamps, and we on the left will have ours - universal health care, nutrition for kids, good education, and civil rights for all.

Honestly, I don't see any other way anymore. I am ashamed to live in this country and call myself an American and I'm anticipating a civil war at some point if we don't divorce each other.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:56 PM

22. I have no time for the party that thinks a rape victim

should bear a child she doesn't want because 'that was God's plan'. I'm tired of these jerks thinking they know what God thinks, feels, or wants.

So I am with you, BigBearJohn. I live in WI and I will NEVER forget who around me had a "I Stand With Scott Walker" sign in their yard. They are dead to me. Period.

If someone wants to vote for these folks, fine, that is their choice. It is MY choice to not associate with any lying, shape-shifting, zombie-eyed, granny-starving plutocrat, or his associates.

This is personal this time.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:00 PM

27. Same here.

I'm getting too old to listen to their crap anymore. I feel much better now that they're out of my life.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:02 PM

29. 2 years without hatefilled racists and HAPPY !

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:04 PM

33. Republicans on my block cold shouldered me after my anti-Bush sign and stickers in 2000 & 2004

Now I don't even respond to the phony asshoes.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:05 PM

34. I wanna agree with you: I'm fed up, too, However,

I do understand that some people just don't have the self-actualization to accept reality or deal with details, history, policies, and making sure their words match their actions.

Some people in my life just aren't there. Those people know exactly why I am against the republican party, and I did turn my parents and some others.

But-

Some people just can't get beyond what their priest says. They feel that would be too much to give up for me.

Ii get that.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:07 PM

37. Agree. Let them breathe the polluted air inside the right-wing bubble all they want. n/t

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:12 PM

40. I've taken that tack since RAYGUN. Cuts out some Low Information, non-confrontational "nice"

ones, but in the end it's not a loss. I'm talking about the "nice" ones who would like to get along with everybody and who, in the first broaching of the politics topic, take a bemused reaction like it can all be a mish-mash of pleasantries. With me, soon, I make the point that people with smiles but horrible politics don't see the real effects of their politics on real people, and the smiles are, without hyperbole, monstrous.

In '04 I had just made contact with a web-ring of my shipmates from my Vietnam ship, but it became clear that their main activities were to slam Dems and especially KERRY and to trade wingnut chain letters. I knew there was no convincing and it was pretty much all against one, so after some skirmishes, I told them I was opting out, didn't cuss them on my way out, just said that our shared youth was its own thing and that's what I would choose to remember.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:14 PM

41. I can't cut off my extended family, they have always been

for me when I need them. Also we have all agreed to disagree and politics is a subject that is never brought up at family get togethers.

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Response to Raine (Reply #41)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:44 PM

45. +100 That's how I feel and operate.

My Republican Sister (who doesn't like to discuss politics) and Dem BIL came up for a 10 day visit last week. So we turned off the TV and watched DVD's, talked for hours and used our computers to check the news we each wanted to see. I am addicted to news programs...MSNBC 24/7. It was kind of frustrating not to hear what Rachael and all the gang had to say for a whole week. Then we were able to watch TV again because we were so interested in tracking Hurricane Sandy.

They left this afternoon ...a couple days early in order to ready their property and prepare for Sandy as they live on LI. Inside I was a little happy because I was so anxious to watch the news again...but damn...it's Saturday...not much news.

Anyway, it isn't hard to get along with ReThug family or friends if you just DON'T discuss politics.
Of course, if they are RACIST, hateful and pushy and refuse to stop talking politics ...that's a different story! If we can have family and friends of different religions...we can do the same with politics!

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Response to Raine (Reply #41)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:24 AM

85. You're lucky they agree not to bring it up

In may family the liberals don't bring it up for that reason. But some of the right wingers cannot control themselves.

They see Obama on TV and have to start a rant about how awful he is. Or you are trapped in a car with them and get stuck listening to it.

They are too selfish to keep it to themselves and don't care how anyone else feels.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:12 PM

46. They can only be counted on when it's beneficial to them.

There's always a catch.

But, I'd also say this, we're all Americans. We just have to make the responsible decisions for them.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:36 PM

48. My Father is republican.

Totally not happening.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:00 PM

52. I can't view things that way

My biological dad votes Democratic, works with kids who have aids and treated me like garbage so I cut him out of my life completely.

My grandfather voted straight ticket Republican, ran his church's Meals on Wheels program and would give anybody the shirt off his back. My uncle votes Republican, would give you the shirt off his back and is a live and let live guy. I would never cut them out of my life.





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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:55 PM

53. I don't have any repub friends anymore

And I don't miss them one bit.

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Response to adigal (Reply #53)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:07 AM

65. I do miss my former repub friends,

but realized during 2004 - that we no longer had anything in common.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:32 AM

55. I have cut off most of my neighborhood. Its ok. I am antisocial anyway.

I live in a "delusional enough to think we earned it all on our own" mid-upper class neighborhood, white except for a couple asian and black families. But seriously once DD is outta school I am so outta here!

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:43 AM

56. I'm happy to say that I probably have 5 FB friends that are Romney-fans. Period.

No one in my life in the real world. It's refreshing!!! I'm so lucky that my entire family are all liberals!

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:25 AM

59. I'm not cutting off the Republicans in my life

Although when the Republican policies end up biting them in the ass (which they inevitably will) I will give them a big fat self-righteous "I told you so"

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:51 AM

64. I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do. I am just sharing a decision I made. Good or bad -- it's

my decision and I take full responsibility for it. It scrambles my brains to be constantly surrounded by people whose minds are unfettered by the laws of logic. I don't want them around me anymore, if I can help it. End of story.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:11 AM

66. I'm glad I'm not married to one.

 

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Response to Zalatix (Reply #66)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:13 PM

97. I am, and I love him more than mere words can express.

After 20+ years, my heart still races when he walks into a room.



(On edit, we fully accept that we differ most distinctly in our politics; we've just agreed to disagree on politics and that we know we'll likely always cancel each others' votes out.)

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:01 AM

70. My only question is what took you so long to cut them out of your life?

 

I have nothing but hate and distain for Pubs and those that support them in any way shape or form.

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Response to coldwaterintheface (Reply #70)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:00 AM

73. Suckered by the old idea: "blood is thicker than water." Now I just believe blood is thick (headed)

When a family member shows me they are lacking character, I don't have to hate
them or condemn them, but I certainly don't have to tolerate them either. If a family member wants to walk around with shit in their pants, that's their choice. BUT, I don't have to invite them into my house and pretend to enjoy the smell. (sorry to be so gross, but it's late).

Any family member of mine who can still vote for Romney after listening to his 47%
remarks and hearing the Republican stand on rape and abortion and social security and medicare -- is not the kind of person I want in my life. Sure, it saddens me (and disgusts me way more than just a little), but I have my own sanity to consider as well,

I have a real hard time with stupid people.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:41 AM

71. I've tried being reasonable, for years I tried

But I've been on your bandwagon too. They're gone and I'm happier.

The only ones left are in my extended family which I avoid like the plague.

Congrats to you.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:52 AM

72. Right there with you

Cut off 3 family members myself.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:04 AM

74. I'm not going to disown a family member based on their thinking that the top rate of tax

should be 3.6% lower than where I think it should be. Even if their view on gay marriage is the same as what Obama's was in 2008.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #74)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:22 AM

76. well, good for you. You made your decision and I made mine. Have a happy life.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #74)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:12 AM

82. You KNOW it's not that simple

if it were just about a 3.6% change in tax rates, who would care? Fiscal policy? Meh....

But there's also the racism, the gender discrimination, the hate of sexual preference, and countless other civil liberties that are just obstacles to Republican desire for domination.

There's the blood lust for war, but the insistence that war be fought by other people children, not theirs.

There also the push to establish religious law in America, and if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, perhaps nothing will.

Come on...You've been around DU long enough to have read the MANY posts detailing frighteningly corrupt and hateful behavior of Republicans, why are you playing that this is about a 3% tax cut?

What's your agenda?

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Response to demwing (Reply #82)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:17 AM

87. Most Republicans are not racist, gay-hating, contraception-banning, misogynist warmongers.

Including the ones in my extended family. Todd Akin is not representative of most Republicans that I have met personally.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #87)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:10 PM

95. Most Republicans are racist, gay-hating, misogynist warmongers. Those are almost

 

pre-requisites to be a Rape-publican.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #95)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:25 PM

101. I'm sorry that that has been your experience (nt)

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #101)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:34 PM

103. Lawrence Wilkerson and I finally agree on one thing:

 

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #87)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:21 PM

100. maybe not, but what are they

when they face the facts that the core of the party are racist, gay-hating, contraception-banning, misogynist warmongers, and STILL choose to support the fuckers?

How will you judge those who stand by and let all that we discuss here happen? Don't tell me you don't judge people, because I'm talking about using your good judgement, not being judgmental.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #74)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:05 PM

92. Will you disown them for thinking that women who become pregnant from rape are

 

part of God's glorious plan?

Not trying to be snarky or a dickhead, just trying to discern where you draw the line.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #74)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:34 PM

104. Yea I'm with you there too

It's not as thou the Democratic Party is holier than thou either. If my socialist friends don't disown me for being too far to the right, I'm not going to do that to my Republican friends for that either.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:52 AM

79. my cousin unfriended me on facebook because I'm a democrat

and it upset me greatly. We're still family, and if you can't be friends with someone just because of their political beliefs then this nation is doomed. The great thing about this country is that people with different beliefs can still talk to one another and get along personally at the end of the day.

I would never stop talking to someone because they were a Republican. Some of my best friends and family members are as right wing as you can get, but I love them all. I have history with them and that history has nothing to do with politics.

Sometimes you just have to stop talking politics and focusing on the things that divide you and instead talk about the things you share and focus on why you became friends in the first place.

Life is too short to hate people and carry animosity towards others.

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Response to WooWooWoo (Reply #79)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:07 PM

93. Will you still love them when they put you on the train to Auschwitz? - n/t

 

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #93)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:50 PM

109. Mike Godwin certainly had a point (nt)

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Response to WooWooWoo (Reply #79)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:52 PM

114. if that works for you, more power to you. I'm fed up and make no apologies for being so.

I will no longer commune with blockheads. As the old saying goes, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it annoys the pig." There are PLENTY of beautiful, uplifting, caring people in this world to join hands with. I'm setting all others free to live their own lives. I CHOOSE THE PEOPLE TO FILL MY LIFE WITH. YOU ARE FREE TO CHOOSE YOURS.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:53 AM

80. Kick & recommended.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:17 AM

83. Fresh air and sunlight

so well put.

That's what I turn to on Sunday mornings, instead of church and the political talk shows. And my blood pressure is better for it.

I loved my old Episcopal church but couldn't find a comparable one when I moved south, so I decided to try a Baptist church. OMG -- the hell-fire-brimstone-born again shit and homophobia! When I resisted their version of baptism and chided that I was born right the first time, christened as a baby and confirmed (after weeks of catechism classes) at age 12, the church seniors looked at me as though I'd sprouted a tail and horns. Bye, bye church.

As for the talk shows, I nearly gave up on them with the ridiculous treatment of Clinton over Paula Jones, Whitewater and then the whole impeachment ridiculousness, but the straw that broke the camel's back came when they allowed Cheney free reign to sell the Iraq War.

My loathing of repukes has grown exponentially and I can no longer tolerate any of them!

So Sundays -- any days -- outside in the garden with fresh air and sunlight and my dogs is mind saving, stress relieving and a little slice of heaven away from the lies and hatred-filled world repukes promote.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:22 AM

84. You won't miss them!

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:34 AM

86. Pretty sad if you ask me.

Part of being an adult is accepting that other people have different opinions than you. I can't imagine "cutting off" a family member over politics.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #86)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:50 AM

88. +1. There is so much more to talk about, and so much more to life, than politics (nt)

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #86)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:12 PM

96. What about a family member who thinks pregnancies resulting from rape are part

 

of God's glorious plan???? That's mainstream Rape-publican ideology today.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #96)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:31 PM

102. Don't know any of those people

I'm certain that they exist in sizable numbers, but my Republicans friends aren't fundamentalist Christians. They're voting for Rmoney, of course, but had Santorum won the nomination they would've probably voted third party or stayed home.

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Response to Hippo_Tron (Reply #102)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:36 PM

105. Okie-dokie then. I don't know how anyone can still vote Rape-publican after

 

a Senate Candidate like Mourdock says pregnancies resulting from rape are part of God's plan.

Or when a high mucky-muck like Newt Gingrich tells women they should just 'get over it' about pregnancies resulting from rape.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #105)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:46 PM

108. If animal rights were my top issue I dont know how anybody could support any mainstream candidate

Considering they all support raising animals in cruel conditions and slaughtering them wholesale for human consumption.

The bottom line is that people see the world differently.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #110)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:15 PM

111. Rest it all you want, I'm not friends with Newt Gingrich or Richard Mourdock

But I'm also not holier than thou enough to believe that my moral decisions don't passively contribute to human suffering in some form or another. For example, I'm typing this on an Apple computer that was made by Chinese workers in horrendous working conditions. My socialist friends have just as much reason to disown me for doing that as I do for disowning my Republican friends for voting Romney when he has nutbags like Gingrich and Mourdock in his coalition.


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Response to Hippo_Tron (Reply #111)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:29 PM

113. I'm a Socialist (Democratic). I don't disown you for using an Apple

 

computer

My political beliefs are so much a part of my core that I can't stay 'friends' with or listen to people who belong to what I consider a fascist political party.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #86)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:45 PM

107. LOL! No way! Really?

Guess who's coming to dinner!



Conservative politics kills, and is bad for children.





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Response to Zorra (Reply #107)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:17 PM

112. Plenty of Democrats were totally gung-ho about the Iraq War

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:09 PM

94. Bravo! Your life will be enriched in other ways once you have

 

removed their poison.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:17 PM

98. I understand. I don't hang out with conservatives,

and if there were someplace that I could move and live relatively comfortably where there were no conservatives, I would move there tomorrow.

Mean people suck.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:20 PM

99. I did it in 2008 with my SIL. Did it with a fb friend--someone I'd worked with--a year ago.

Have since cut off some other fb friends for being mostly right wing idiots.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:37 PM

106. The only ones I have to disown are the people I can't have rational discourse with...

Or at least agree to not talk about it if we can't have rational discourse. And I have to tell you that nobody like that was really my friend to begin with.

I have good discussions and debates with my Republican friends, just as I have good discussions and debates with my socialist friends.

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:09 PM

115. To those who say "it's.just politics," tell that to someone who dies because of a loss of healthcare

Or tell that to a senior who loses food stamps and can't eat. Tell that to a single mother of three who loses her only means of support when her job is shipped overseas. Only politics? That's a point of view that can only be expressed by someone who's never suffered from the results of callous political decisions. Must be nice looking down from that ivory tower, eh?

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:26 PM

116. I'm sure Mitt Romney thinks "It's just politics" too. See below

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Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:30 PM

117. I cant help but wonder how many people in Hitler's early days thought, "Oh, it's just politics."?

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