General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! No more Republicans in my life. If you're greedy enough, dumb enough, selfish
enough or racist enough to vote for Romney, why on earth do I want you in my life? I've cut off 3 family members and 5 Facebook friends and I feel so much better. No more insanity in my life. Let them wallow in their own crap. I need some fresh air and sunlight!!!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)I've done that ever since Bush. I have zero tolerance of republiclowns and don't regret a minute of it
Life is too short.Why waste any of it on them?
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)whatsoever. As soon as I know someone is a Rape-publican I cease any social interaction or contact with them.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)dvduval
(260 posts)I have only unfriended one so far. I called him when he made racist sounding comments and he wouldn't back down.
duggie99
(40 posts)I decided we have nothing in common especially values so good bye is freeing. I would not want to spend my off time with them. Got rid of Tea Bagger on FB and felt so free!!!!
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I mean it. I grew up in the most liberal neighborhood in America. It's so refreshing to talk to the old 90 year olds who still live there. It's like they have BRAINS. Oh, and common sense.
Even as a six year old, I knew the one lady in our neigborhood who was conservative was a turd. We threw rocks in her swimming pool, over and over. Her name was something like Freddenrich. We called her Mrs. Freddenwitch.
How people can associate with the conservative mindset is beyond me. Go hit yourselves with hammers.
CrispyQ
(36,462 posts)I'm also starting to question friends & acquaintances who vote for them. If you know about this & still support them, shame on you. If you don't know about this & are an ignorant, low-info voter, shame on you. Either fucking way, if you are a repub, shame on you.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)It's truly liberating!
Helen Reddy
(998 posts)Well done.
FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)I hate it because I spend time in both NC and FL and almost ALL of my friends in both states are republicans. It's a shame, but true, that I have very few close liberal friends. I guess that's why I spend so much time on DU.
While I find that all of these friends have basically been good friends, I actually believe that I cannot trust them because their core beliefs are so different from mine. I used to think it was a religion based biase, but now I think it's racism pure and simple.
I'm so disappointed in them but now that I look back over the years of associating with them through our work, it explains a lot of things. I taught special education and they were so hateful to and bigotted about my students that it broke my heart. That was just the way they were and as it turns out, they still are and will always be.
deadbrokediva
(48 posts)I am trapped in BumbleFuck, Pennsylvania, land of religion and guns (Obama wasn't kidding). Just biding my time here in Stenchylvania till I can get back home to my beloved liberal Portland, OR.
FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)sleep over it. Oh sure, they might not be running the trains to Auschwitz or guarding the camp, but they'll be lined up behind whatever fascist authoritarian shithead is running the trains and guarding the camps, even if you're one of the incarcerated.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)underseasurveyor
(6,428 posts)Not saying it's not impossible but good luck none the less. Unless they show a modicum of intelligence I won't waste any time trying to convert any.
Greedy, lying, losers most of em.
-LOKI -BAD FOR YA
(308 posts)people can lose prospective if trapped in a bubble.i once belonged to a group which i thought had the same idea world view.i wanted but i found resistant when i asked questions. i feeled constrained so i left ,the thing was for awhile i feel guilty.it is a powerful deterrence from leaving .but you had to want to leave .no one can save you except your self .
femrap
(13,418 posts)people I knew voted for W the SECOND TIME.
I don't miss them one iota.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]People I disagree profoundly with on almost everything, but am very closely related to. I even actively dislike a couple of them, but we still have blood bonds. Fortunately, we have to interact only rarely.
Response to silverweb (Reply #14)
Post removed
Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)
Post removed
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)"If you're greedy enough, dumb enough, selfish enough or racist enough to vote for Romney".
See the word "or"?
And yes. We live in a country of free will and free choice and laws and rules and regulations. Yet you say "shame" to someone with a choice different from yours.
Why did you sign up on DU? I am curious.
I do not shame people for having a different choice that I do, I shame people for disowning family and friends for having different views than they do.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)I have relatives that never stop peddling their RW BS. Enough.
deadbrokediva
(48 posts)Have you considered that maybe some of us who choose to get rid of family members because of their beliefs have maybe suffered at the hands of these people as well? I know I have. And to have to have their racist and misogynistic attitudes forced on me my entire life has robbed me of having a proper family, so who are you to judge how others handle their family matters?
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)It sucks and it's like this unconscious kind of mental abuse. It's like this strange miasma of republican and abuser that it's hard to tell which came first. One reinforces the other and just compounds their dysfunctional personality to which we are subjected. It's a horrific kind if relationship to be trapped in because not every person can understand what we're talking about. It's like being one of those people being operated on while awake but unable to move or scream. You just want this person to go away and yet you can't get them to go away. And once you're free of them, you never want to see them again.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Maybe you're more successful with it elsewhere. Doubt it. I doubt you're successful at much of anything that matters.
Enjoy your brief stay, troll? [url=http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php][img][/img][/url] Didn't think so. Good. Enjoy that pizza with your tombstone.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)this sophmoric dribble?
https://www.realtown.com/community/RealTalk/view/PPDAFPA
https://www.realtown.com/members/tomscheu
Despite the media's infatuation with President Obama, you recognize his history and his current actions are way too far left for even your comfort. If it was not for the first amendment, people like Michelle Malkin, Glenn Beck, and even Fox News in general would not have the chance of even being heard. If their voices were not heard, just imagine how much further we would already be along the path of lost freedoms and away from the very reasons why our ancestors fled to America in the 1700's.
When trolling at DU it is generally a good idea not to post in your name and leave a direct line to your real life idiocy.
Well done, grantcart!
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Oh Tom.. you're screwing yourself out of 51% of potential business, as I wouldn't give a dime to anyone with such regressive and ignorant views!!
And the irony here, that folks like Tom miss, is that the housing market is BAAACK!! Yep. Bush destroyed it in 2007/2008, and now it's going gangbusters. Oh, and the interest rates are low, more people are employed and BUYING homes (added millions of jobs IN America, NOT China!!) Consumer confidence is up, spending is up, and banks are lending again.
But yeah... Tom and is ilk in the real estate biz think that bazillinaires like Malkin and Beck are looking out for them.. LOLZ.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Duppers
(28,120 posts)I hope he's tombstoned.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Especially family members who never hesitate to regurgitate their foul opinions without taking the time to know the issues. There is no crime in deciding who you
want in your life. Just because you are a brother or sister, this doesn't give
carte blanche to say or do anything you want because you are my "blood." I want
people of character in my life. Family members can lack character too. Especially
the ones who treat ME like it is ME who is foul and ignorant for voting Democrat.
If you are uncaring, selfish, and bigoted, I have no room for you in my life,
especially after I have spent hours and hours and hours trying to understand you and your ignorance. Stupid is as stupid does. Don't forget the "Serenity Prayer" .. I don't allow people to dump their trash in my living room. Why should I allow them to dump their mental trash in my mind?
eridani
(51,907 posts)--and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because THEY PISSED ME OFF!
Duppers
(28,120 posts)and I'll quote you.
deadbrokediva
(48 posts)Personally, I'm beyond caring about people having "different opinions". All of us here on DU KNOW what the correct opinion is, and it's not to be racist, ignorant, greedy and selfish like the Thugs are. Whose side are you on, anyway?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Hugabear
(10,340 posts)Why should we tolerate those who hate people simply for the color of their skin, who they choose to love, etc? Why should we tolerate those wage war on women?
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)This isn't just a case of political differences. Political differences are when both sides want to achieve the same goal but disagree on how to get there. For example, if both parties wanted to find a way to help the middle class and they disagreed over the method to get there, that would be a political difference. In the current case, the Democrats want to help the middle class, and the Republicans want to destroy it. They have said out loud they want to hurt women, they want to hurt the middle class, they want to hurt gays, they want to destroy unions, they want to destroy Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. They want to take healthcare away from people.
In short, they are traitors to the American way of life. For me, this isn't just a "difference of opinion."
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)I think you nailed it--Republicons want to hurt people, knock them down, Dems want to help people, lift them up.
Sad that it has come down to this.
I say to anyone who has the courage to get out of disturbing/toxic relationships, no matter what it takes. You won't have many regrets.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)You CAN choose your family -- family is more than blood... that's for SURE.
eridani
(51,907 posts)--to his "biological family".
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)especially if there ARE some things you still like about them, or if their "turn for the worse" has happened fairly recently. Or if you forgive them for being stupid enough to fall for the biggest pack of lies ever constructed to manipulate the American people.
And then there's how the comparison with people who are close to their families becomes its own kind of hurt. That longing for connection with kin doesn't magically go away.
It takes a strong person to draw the line, and the road to acceptance of a split must be experienced as a grieving and letting go process. Not every body has the strength to go through that willingly.
I've had to do it--to realize that the bond I thought was there, was probably my own delusion. Because people who love you do not disrespect you or vomit hate speech on you. I have come to think of the bonds symbolically as strings of love from my heart to another's. And when you come to the end with that person, you realize that these strings are gone. You have achieved the final severance which cannot be repaired (or at least you give up all HOPE of repair).
When you get rid rid of those who are hurting you--you have room in your life for those who you can trust NOT to hurt you.
They are out there.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)I sent snopes links in response to his misinformed emails about Obama and the democrats. He would never reply but send me more hate.. I did ask him to send no more political emails but they just kept coming. The last straw was when actually said he would be happy to see someone take Obama out. I no longer answer, call or write him. I ignore all his hate mails. He still sends them. Our dad died in 2000. Our mom died 2 years ago but she too hated Obama. They both hate him because he is black. I consider myself an orphan. It works for me.
This is my reply to tomshu. Which I wonder if you are pro Romney.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)ciking724
(78 posts)against their own interests and the best interests of the country. It would be different if Romney actually stood for something, but he doesn't, and the only reason they are voting for him is because of blind, racist hatred, pure and simple. I am beginning to see this myself. In 2008, I stopped going to the only church I have attended in this city since I moved here in 2001, because I love the church and the pastor, but I did not like the hateful rhetoric spewed by some of the ministry staff; I just did not want to risk falling out with the church and thought I would go back after the election. Well, I did go back, but it wasn't the same, so I dropped out completely.
I have also been volunteering for a Christian organization headed by someone who supports Romney. At a recent board meeting, one of the members started laughing with another member about the Clint Eastwood incident at the convention and seemed to champion the threat of violence if anyone messed with him. After the meeting, I called him out about it and told him I thought it was shameful that Christians could speak that way, especially after what happened to Gabby Giffords. The Director usually tries to steer away from politics when I am present because she knows I am a Dem and support President Obama, and I try to stay out of their conversations just to keep the peace, but those days are over.
There just isn't any reasoning with them. They are blinded by hatred. They go on and on about the poor unborn children being aborted, but do you think they would adopt an unwanted child? Heck no. And the thing that gets me is they support capital punishment. And they go on tirades about how God is going to judge the country because of homosexuality, like he did Sodom and Gomorrah, when the truth is there were also some heterosexuals involved in the idolatry and sexual perversion at Sodom and Gomorrah. They believe everything Fixed Noise tells them, and it just seems a waste of time sometimes to argue with them.
So I understand well how those who've posted here feel when they say they've cut them off. I haven't completely given up yet, but getting there.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)WHICH FAMILY MEMBERS I CARE TO INCLUDE. I just decided I am tired of trying to make excuses for them. They can go off and have their own lives. I wish them no ill will. But -- I don't wish myself any ill will either. I refuse to allow ANY family member to continue to shove my face in the proverbial "shit" and expect me to take it because "they are family." NO MORE. My best friend used to tell me "John, you can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit, no matter how hard you try." Time for a new life. I will join hands with people of true moral character, those whom I respect and truly love, and will make my OWN family -- my own community.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)and it is one of those times when people show what they're really like.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Election 2016 will be under way Nov. 7th.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)LOL!
dvhughes
(50 posts)I had the exact same epiphany several months ago but have yet to pull the trigger.
Why should I waste my time with people that are so willingly, so proudly, so selfish?
And why would I associate with such people? It is a poor reflection on me.
These are the same people that were so steadfast in their support of voting for person of such low standard as Sarah Palin to be the Vice President. Sarah Frikking Palin fer Chrisssakes! Do they have such colossal disrespect not only for the office but for their country? It is truly bewildering.
I was taking to my wife about this idea not long ago, and she says I should go ahead and cut the cord.
The time is coming.
PABigDaddyDemocrat
(56 posts)I keep my friends close and my enemies closer.
I have spirited debates and enjoy it.
Perhaps though, if you were running into abusive comments or your debates were going nowhere, you're better off.
To each their own.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)PABigDaddyDemocrat
(56 posts)sorry for the delay in responding to your warm greeting. glad to be here.
deadbrokediva
(48 posts)I refuse to have RAPEublicans in my life to any extent. I too have cut off family members (assholes to begin with, so no big loss) and I actually did once try to reach out to Republicans to exchange dialogue in a friendly manner so I can understand where they come from and while it may have started off friendly, it would take only two or three emails before they would begin their bullying and insults and showing their true sociopathic colors, NOT TO MENTION THE ALL CAPS AND 15 EXCLAMATION POINTS BIT.
In fact, I would take the shunning of RAPEublicans to a whole 'nother level. I am 100% in favor of political segregation. I say cut the country in half - Thugs on the East Coast, rational intelligent people (libs) on the West - and elect two separate Presidents or "co-Presidents" - I don't know, I don't have all the bugs worked out, but you get what I mean. Let them have the dream country they want with no abortions for anyone, no gays, no blacks, no illegals, and rampant hunger because they don't believe in food stamps, and we on the left will have ours - universal health care, nutrition for kids, good education, and civil rights for all.
Honestly, I don't see any other way anymore. I am ashamed to live in this country and call myself an American and I'm anticipating a civil war at some point if we don't divorce each other.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)should bear a child she doesn't want because 'that was God's plan'. I'm tired of these jerks thinking they know what God thinks, feels, or wants.
So I am with you, BigBearJohn. I live in WI and I will NEVER forget who around me had a "I Stand With Scott Walker" sign in their yard. They are dead to me. Period.
If someone wants to vote for these folks, fine, that is their choice. It is MY choice to not associate with any lying, shape-shifting, zombie-eyed, granny-starving plutocrat, or his associates.
This is personal this time.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)I'm getting too old to listen to their crap anymore. I feel much better now that they're out of my life.
penndragon69
(788 posts)upi402
(16,854 posts)Now I don't even respond to the phony asshoes.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)I do understand that some people just don't have the self-actualization to accept reality or deal with details, history, policies, and making sure their words match their actions.
Some people in my life just aren't there. Those people know exactly why I am against the republican party, and I did turn my parents and some others.
But-
Some people just can't get beyond what their priest says. They feel that would be too much to give up for me.
Ii get that.
dsharp88
(487 posts)UTUSN
(70,686 posts)ones, but in the end it's not a loss. I'm talking about the "nice" ones who would like to get along with everybody and who, in the first broaching of the politics topic, take a bemused reaction like it can all be a mish-mash of pleasantries. With me, soon, I make the point that people with smiles but horrible politics don't see the real effects of their politics on real people, and the smiles are, without hyperbole, monstrous.
In '04 I had just made contact with a web-ring of my shipmates from my Vietnam ship, but it became clear that their main activities were to slam Dems and especially KERRY and to trade wingnut chain letters. I knew there was no convincing and it was pretty much all against one, so after some skirmishes, I told them I was opting out, didn't cuss them on my way out, just said that our shared youth was its own thing and that's what I would choose to remember.
Raine
(30,540 posts)for me when I need them. Also we have all agreed to disagree and politics is a subject that is never brought up at family get togethers.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)My Republican Sister (who doesn't like to discuss politics) and Dem BIL came up for a 10 day visit last week. So we turned off the TV and watched DVD's, talked for hours and used our computers to check the news we each wanted to see. I am addicted to news programs...MSNBC 24/7. It was kind of frustrating not to hear what Rachael and all the gang had to say for a whole week. Then we were able to watch TV again because we were so interested in tracking Hurricane Sandy.
They left this afternoon ...a couple days early in order to ready their property and prepare for Sandy as they live on LI. Inside I was a little happy because I was so anxious to watch the news again...but damn...it's Saturday...not much news.
Anyway, it isn't hard to get along with ReThug family or friends if you just DON'T discuss politics.
Of course, if they are RACIST, hateful and pushy and refuse to stop talking politics ...that's a different story! If we can have family and friends of different religions...we can do the same with politics!
treestar
(82,383 posts)In may family the liberals don't bring it up for that reason. But some of the right wingers cannot control themselves.
They see Obama on TV and have to start a rant about how awful he is. Or you are trapped in a car with them and get stuck listening to it.
They are too selfish to keep it to themselves and don't care how anyone else feels.
ffr
(22,669 posts)There's always a catch.
But, I'd also say this, we're all Americans. We just have to make the responsible decisions for them.
SalviaBlue
(2,916 posts)Totally not happening.
mythology
(9,527 posts)My biological dad votes Democratic, works with kids who have aids and treated me like garbage so I cut him out of my life completely.
My grandfather voted straight ticket Republican, ran his church's Meals on Wheels program and would give anybody the shirt off his back. My uncle votes Republican, would give you the shirt off his back and is a live and let live guy. I would never cut them out of my life.
adigal
(7,581 posts)And I don't miss them one bit.
Dan
(3,554 posts)but realized during 2004 - that we no longer had anything in common.
LittlestStar
(224 posts)I live in a "delusional enough to think we earned it all on our own" mid-upper class neighborhood, white except for a couple asian and black families. But seriously once DD is outta school I am so outta here!
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)No one in my life in the real world. It's refreshing!!! I'm so lucky that my entire family are all liberals!
cherish44
(2,566 posts)Although when the Republican policies end up biting them in the ass (which they inevitably will) I will give them a big fat self-righteous "I told you so"
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)my decision and I take full responsibility for it. It scrambles my brains to be constantly surrounded by people whose minds are unfettered by the laws of logic. I don't want them around me anymore, if I can help it. End of story.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)After 20+ years, my heart still races when he walks into a room.
(On edit, we fully accept that we differ most distinctly in our politics; we've just agreed to disagree on politics and that we know we'll likely always cancel each others' votes out.)
coldwaterintheface
(137 posts)I have nothing but hate and distain for Pubs and those that support them in any way shape or form.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)When a family member shows me they are lacking character, I don't have to hate
them or condemn them, but I certainly don't have to tolerate them either. If a family member wants to walk around with shit in their pants, that's their choice. BUT, I don't have to invite them into my house and pretend to enjoy the smell. (sorry to be so gross, but it's late).
Any family member of mine who can still vote for Romney after listening to his 47%
remarks and hearing the Republican stand on rape and abortion and social security and medicare -- is not the kind of person I want in my life. Sure, it saddens me (and disgusts me way more than just a little), but I have my own sanity to consider as well,
I have a real hard time with stupid people.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)But I've been on your bandwagon too. They're gone and I'm happier.
The only ones left are in my extended family which I avoid like the plague.
Congrats to you.
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)Cut off 3 family members myself.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)should be 3.6% lower than where I think it should be. Even if their view on gay marriage is the same as what Obama's was in 2008.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)if it were just about a 3.6% change in tax rates, who would care? Fiscal policy? Meh....
But there's also the racism, the gender discrimination, the hate of sexual preference, and countless other civil liberties that are just obstacles to Republican desire for domination.
There's the blood lust for war, but the insistence that war be fought by other people children, not theirs.
There also the push to establish religious law in America, and if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, perhaps nothing will.
Come on...You've been around DU long enough to have read the MANY posts detailing frighteningly corrupt and hateful behavior of Republicans, why are you playing that this is about a 3% tax cut?
What's your agenda?
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Including the ones in my extended family. Todd Akin is not representative of most Republicans that I have met personally.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)pre-requisites to be a Rape-publican.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)when they face the facts that the core of the party are racist, gay-hating, contraception-banning, misogynist warmongers, and STILL choose to support the fuckers?
How will you judge those who stand by and let all that we discuss here happen? Don't tell me you don't judge people, because I'm talking about using your good judgement, not being judgmental.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)part of God's glorious plan?
Not trying to be snarky or a dickhead, just trying to discern where you draw the line.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)It's not as thou the Democratic Party is holier than thou either. If my socialist friends don't disown me for being too far to the right, I'm not going to do that to my Republican friends for that either.
WooWooWoo
(454 posts)and it upset me greatly. We're still family, and if you can't be friends with someone just because of their political beliefs then this nation is doomed. The great thing about this country is that people with different beliefs can still talk to one another and get along personally at the end of the day.
I would never stop talking to someone because they were a Republican. Some of my best friends and family members are as right wing as you can get, but I love them all. I have history with them and that history has nothing to do with politics.
Sometimes you just have to stop talking politics and focusing on the things that divide you and instead talk about the things you share and focus on why you became friends in the first place.
Life is too short to hate people and carry animosity towards others.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)I will no longer commune with blockheads. As the old saying goes, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it annoys the pig." There are PLENTY of beautiful, uplifting, caring people in this world to join hands with. I'm setting all others free to live their own lives. I CHOOSE THE PEOPLE TO FILL MY LIFE WITH. YOU ARE FREE TO CHOOSE YOURS.
William769
(55,146 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)so well put.
That's what I turn to on Sunday mornings, instead of church and the political talk shows. And my blood pressure is better for it.
I loved my old Episcopal church but couldn't find a comparable one when I moved south, so I decided to try a Baptist church. OMG -- the hell-fire-brimstone-born again shit and homophobia! When I resisted their version of baptism and chided that I was born right the first time, christened as a baby and confirmed (after weeks of catechism classes) at age 12, the church seniors looked at me as though I'd sprouted a tail and horns. Bye, bye church.
As for the talk shows, I nearly gave up on them with the ridiculous treatment of Clinton over Paula Jones, Whitewater and then the whole impeachment ridiculousness, but the straw that broke the camel's back came when they allowed Cheney free reign to sell the Iraq War.
My loathing of repukes has grown exponentially and I can no longer tolerate any of them!
So Sundays -- any days -- outside in the garden with fresh air and sunlight and my dogs is mind saving, stress relieving and a little slice of heaven away from the lies and hatred-filled world repukes promote.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)tritsofme
(17,377 posts)Part of being an adult is accepting that other people have different opinions than you. I can't imagine "cutting off" a family member over politics.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)of God's glorious plan???? That's mainstream Rape-publican ideology today.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)I'm certain that they exist in sizable numbers, but my Republicans friends aren't fundamentalist Christians. They're voting for Rmoney, of course, but had Santorum won the nomination they would've probably voted third party or stayed home.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)a Senate Candidate like Mourdock says pregnancies resulting from rape are part of God's plan.
Or when a high mucky-muck like Newt Gingrich tells women they should just 'get over it' about pregnancies resulting from rape.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Considering they all support raising animals in cruel conditions and slaughtering them wholesale for human consumption.
The bottom line is that people see the world differently.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)But I'm also not holier than thou enough to believe that my moral decisions don't passively contribute to human suffering in some form or another. For example, I'm typing this on an Apple computer that was made by Chinese workers in horrendous working conditions. My socialist friends have just as much reason to disown me for doing that as I do for disowning my Republican friends for voting Romney when he has nutbags like Gingrich and Mourdock in his coalition.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)computer
My political beliefs are so much a part of my core that I can't stay 'friends' with or listen to people who belong to what I consider a fascist political party.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Guess who's coming to dinner!
Conservative politics kills, and is bad for children.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)removed their poison.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)and if there were someplace that I could move and live relatively comfortably where there were no conservatives, I would move there tomorrow.
Mean people suck.
mnhtnbb
(31,386 posts)Have since cut off some other fb friends for being mostly right wing idiots.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Or at least agree to not talk about it if we can't have rational discourse. And I have to tell you that nobody like that was really my friend to begin with.
I have good discussions and debates with my Republican friends, just as I have good discussions and debates with my socialist friends.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Or tell that to a senior who loses food stamps and can't eat. Tell that to a single mother of three who loses her only means of support when her job is shipped overseas. Only politics? That's a point of view that can only be expressed by someone who's never suffered from the results of callous political decisions. Must be nice looking down from that ivory tower, eh?