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BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 03:59 PM Oct 2012

OK. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! No more Republicans in my life. If you're greedy enough, dumb enough, selfish

enough or racist enough to vote for Romney, why on earth do I want you in my life? I've cut off 3 family members and 5 Facebook friends and I feel so much better. No more insanity in my life. Let them wallow in their own crap. I need some fresh air and sunlight!!!

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OK. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! No more Republicans in my life. If you're greedy enough, dumb enough, selfish (Original Post) BigBearJohn Oct 2012 OP
Congrats amuse bouche Oct 2012 #1
I did it in 2008 and it worked out just fine. russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #2
I did it in Nov 2002 (run up to Operation Shocking and Awful). No regrets coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #89
100 % russspeakeasy Oct 2012 #91
Me too dvduval Oct 2012 #3
Amen duggie99 Oct 2012 #4
Wow, that has been my MO since, well...forever. Gregorian Oct 2012 #5
Here was my comment in another thread about repub acquaintances. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #6
I cut them out of my life a long time ago. LeftofObama Oct 2012 #7
You deserve a pat on the back! Helen Reddy Oct 2012 #8
I'm gradually heading that way too. FLyellowdog Oct 2012 #9
I feel your pain deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #25
Hope you get to move sooner than later. FLyellowdog Oct 2012 #39
Make no mistake, they'll see you sent to a concentration camp and not lose a moment's coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #90
As democrats it's our duty to convert these poor ignorant, misguided republicans. craigmatic Oct 2012 #10
Good luck with that. underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #47
when i think of the gop i have visions of the zombie apocalypse,millions of gop voting -LOKI -BAD FOR YA Oct 2012 #69
I did that back in 2004 when femrap Oct 2012 #11
Good for you sunshine!!! n/t greytdemocrat Oct 2012 #12
Me too. glinda Oct 2012 #13
I still can't cut off a handful of people. silverweb Oct 2012 #14
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #28
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #15
Maybe you missed the word "OR"? And no. It is fear that push people towards the conservative side. uppityperson Oct 2012 #19
Reply TomScheu Oct 2012 #21
And if they just won't let it alone? TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #32
It's hardly YOUR choice to decide that deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #36
I can confirm this too Shankapotomus Oct 2012 #77
You think that's what you're doing? You're not shaming anyone here. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #42
Tom are you the same idiotic Tom Scheu that sells real estate in Downer's Grove IL and wrote grantcart Oct 2012 #50
Lol! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #54
what kind of idiot writes that stuff on their BUSINESS page?? Umm liberals outnumber conservatives progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #57
Tom has an extensive network of exactly two, lol. grantcart Oct 2012 #58
Good job. Duppers Oct 2012 #75
Just because someone is related to me by blood doesn't give them a free pass. BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #60
I can never read that without mentally altering the last sentence to-- eridani Oct 2012 #67
Amen!!! Duppers Oct 2012 #78
I am curious why YOU are here. deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #31
Me? Why am I here? Maybe you meant to reply to TomScheu who is now gone. uppityperson Oct 2012 #38
Defending racist assholes, how nice Hugabear Oct 2012 #23
Maybe you're not paying attention nichomachus Oct 2012 #24
it's more than "differences" marions ghost Oct 2012 #49
I can't help but wonder how many lives have been ruined under the banner of "family"? BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #61
Armisted Maupin once said that he much preferred his "logical family"-- eridani Oct 2012 #68
True--but I think it's very hard to reject family marions ghost Oct 2012 #81
Wish I said that. Hit the nail on the head. BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #63
i tried your method with my brother riverbendviewgal Oct 2012 #26
sometimes you have to let them go.... marions ghost Oct 2012 #51
I don't think its just that they vote against Obama; these ignorant people are voting ciking724 Oct 2012 #43
I don't condemn my family members, I just choose whom I want to associate with. AND THAT INCLUDES BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #62
Presidential election years put everyone to the test lunatica Oct 2012 #16
Trouble is, these "election years" run for four years. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #30
So will the Congressional elections lunatica Oct 2012 #35
You are right to do it dvhughes Oct 2012 #17
Whatever gets you through the night. PABigDaddyDemocrat Oct 2012 #18
Welcome to DU PA Big Daddy Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #44
thanks! PABigDaddyDemocrat Nov 2012 #118
Been there, done that deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #20
I have no time for the party that thinks a rape victim Lifelong Protester Oct 2012 #22
Same here. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #27
2 years without hatefilled racists and HAPPY ! penndragon69 Oct 2012 #29
Republicans on my block cold shouldered me after my anti-Bush sign and stickers in 2000 & 2004 upi402 Oct 2012 #33
I wanna agree with you: I'm fed up, too, However, lindysalsagal Oct 2012 #34
Agree. Let them breathe the polluted air inside the right-wing bubble all they want. n/t dsharp88 Oct 2012 #37
I've taken that tack since RAYGUN. Cuts out some Low Information, non-confrontational "nice" UTUSN Oct 2012 #40
I can't cut off my extended family, they have always been Raine Oct 2012 #41
+100 That's how I feel and operate. Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #45
You're lucky they agree not to bring it up treestar Oct 2012 #85
They can only be counted on when it's beneficial to them. ffr Oct 2012 #46
My Father is republican. SalviaBlue Oct 2012 #48
I can't view things that way mythology Oct 2012 #52
I don't have any repub friends anymore adigal Oct 2012 #53
I do miss my former repub friends, Dan Oct 2012 #65
I have cut off most of my neighborhood. Its ok. I am antisocial anyway. LittlestStar Oct 2012 #55
I'm happy to say that I probably have 5 FB friends that are Romney-fans. Period. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #56
I'm not cutting off the Republicans in my life cherish44 Oct 2012 #59
I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do. I am just sharing a decision I made. Good or bad -- it's BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #64
I'm glad I'm not married to one. Zalatix Oct 2012 #66
I am, and I love him more than mere words can express. Seeking Serenity Oct 2012 #97
My only question is what took you so long to cut them out of your life? coldwaterintheface Oct 2012 #70
Suckered by the old idea: "blood is thicker than water." Now I just believe blood is thick (headed) BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #73
I've tried being reasonable, for years I tried Duppers Oct 2012 #71
Right there with you Glitterati Oct 2012 #72
I'm not going to disown a family member based on their thinking that the top rate of tax Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #74
well, good for you. You made your decision and I made mine. Have a happy life. BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #76
You KNOW it's not that simple demwing Oct 2012 #82
Most Republicans are not racist, gay-hating, contraception-banning, misogynist warmongers. Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #87
Most Republicans are racist, gay-hating, misogynist warmongers. Those are almost coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #95
I'm sorry that that has been your experience (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #101
Lawrence Wilkerson and I finally agree on one thing: coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #103
maybe not, but what are they demwing Oct 2012 #100
Will you disown them for thinking that women who become pregnant from rape are coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #92
Yea I'm with you there too Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #104
my cousin unfriended me on facebook because I'm a democrat WooWooWoo Oct 2012 #79
Will you still love them when they put you on the train to Auschwitz? - n/t coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #93
Mike Godwin certainly had a point (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #109
if that works for you, more power to you. I'm fed up and make no apologies for being so. BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #114
Kick & recommended. William769 Oct 2012 #80
Fresh air and sunlight Carolina Oct 2012 #83
You won't miss them! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #84
Pretty sad if you ask me. tritsofme Oct 2012 #86
+1. There is so much more to talk about, and so much more to life, than politics (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #88
What about a family member who thinks pregnancies resulting from rape are part coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #96
Don't know any of those people Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #102
Okie-dokie then. I don't know how anyone can still vote Rape-publican after coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #105
If animal rights were my top issue I dont know how anybody could support any mainstream candidate Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #108
I rest my case: coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #110
Rest it all you want, I'm not friends with Newt Gingrich or Richard Mourdock Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #111
I'm a Socialist (Democratic). I don't disown you for using an Apple coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #113
LOL! No way! Really? Zorra Oct 2012 #107
Plenty of Democrats were totally gung-ho about the Iraq War Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #112
Bravo! Your life will be enriched in other ways once you have coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #94
I understand. I don't hang out with conservatives, Zorra Oct 2012 #98
I did it in 2008 with my SIL. Did it with a fb friend--someone I'd worked with--a year ago. mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #99
The only ones I have to disown are the people I can't have rational discourse with... Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #106
To those who say "it's.just politics," tell that to someone who dies because of a loss of healthcare BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #115
I'm sure Mitt Romney thinks "It's just politics" too. See below BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #116
I cant help but wonder how many people in Hitler's early days thought, "Oh, it's just politics."? BigBearJohn Oct 2012 #117

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
1. Congrats
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:02 PM
Oct 2012

I've done that ever since Bush. I have zero tolerance of republiclowns and don't regret a minute of it

Life is too short.Why waste any of it on them?

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
89. I did it in Nov 2002 (run up to Operation Shocking and Awful). No regrets
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:52 AM
Oct 2012

whatsoever. As soon as I know someone is a Rape-publican I cease any social interaction or contact with them.

dvduval

(260 posts)
3. Me too
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:08 PM
Oct 2012

I have only unfriended one so far. I called him when he made racist sounding comments and he wouldn't back down.

duggie99

(40 posts)
4. Amen
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:16 PM
Oct 2012

I decided we have nothing in common especially values so good bye is freeing. I would not want to spend my off time with them. Got rid of Tea Bagger on FB and felt so free!!!!

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
5. Wow, that has been my MO since, well...forever.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:16 PM
Oct 2012

I mean it. I grew up in the most liberal neighborhood in America. It's so refreshing to talk to the old 90 year olds who still live there. It's like they have BRAINS. Oh, and common sense.

Even as a six year old, I knew the one lady in our neigborhood who was conservative was a turd. We threw rocks in her swimming pool, over and over. Her name was something like Freddenrich. We called her Mrs. Freddenwitch.

How people can associate with the conservative mindset is beyond me. Go hit yourselves with hammers.

CrispyQ

(36,462 posts)
6. Here was my comment in another thread about repub acquaintances.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:33 PM
Oct 2012

I'm also starting to question friends & acquaintances who vote for them. If you know about this & still support them, shame on you. If you don't know about this & are an ignorant, low-info voter, shame on you. Either fucking way, if you are a repub, shame on you.

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
9. I'm gradually heading that way too.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:41 PM
Oct 2012

I hate it because I spend time in both NC and FL and almost ALL of my friends in both states are republicans. It's a shame, but true, that I have very few close liberal friends. I guess that's why I spend so much time on DU.

While I find that all of these friends have basically been good friends, I actually believe that I cannot trust them because their core beliefs are so different from mine. I used to think it was a religion based biase, but now I think it's racism pure and simple.

I'm so disappointed in them but now that I look back over the years of associating with them through our work, it explains a lot of things. I taught special education and they were so hateful to and bigotted about my students that it broke my heart. That was just the way they were and as it turns out, they still are and will always be.

deadbrokediva

(48 posts)
25. I feel your pain
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:58 PM
Oct 2012

I am trapped in BumbleFuck, Pennsylvania, land of religion and guns (Obama wasn't kidding). Just biding my time here in Stenchylvania till I can get back home to my beloved liberal Portland, OR.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
90. Make no mistake, they'll see you sent to a concentration camp and not lose a moment's
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:55 AM
Oct 2012

sleep over it. Oh sure, they might not be running the trains to Auschwitz or guarding the camp, but they'll be lined up behind whatever fascist authoritarian shithead is running the trains and guarding the camps, even if you're one of the incarcerated.

underseasurveyor

(6,428 posts)
47. Good luck with that.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:34 PM
Oct 2012

Not saying it's not impossible but good luck none the less. Unless they show a modicum of intelligence I won't waste any time trying to convert any.

Greedy, lying, losers most of em.

-LOKI -BAD FOR YA

(308 posts)
69. when i think of the gop i have visions of the zombie apocalypse,millions of gop voting
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:52 AM
Oct 2012

people can lose prospective if trapped in a bubble.i once belonged to a group which i thought had the same idea world view.i wanted but i found resistant when i asked questions. i feeled constrained so i left ,the thing was for awhile i feel guilty.it is a powerful deterrence from leaving .but you had to want to leave .no one can save you except your self .

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
11. I did that back in 2004 when
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:22 PM
Oct 2012

people I knew voted for W the SECOND TIME.

I don't miss them one iota.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
14. I still can't cut off a handful of people.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:39 PM
Oct 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]People I disagree profoundly with on almost everything, but am very closely related to. I even actively dislike a couple of them, but we still have blood bonds. Fortunately, we have to interact only rarely.

Response to silverweb (Reply #14)

Response to BigBearJohn (Original post)

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
19. Maybe you missed the word "OR"? And no. It is fear that push people towards the conservative side.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:50 PM
Oct 2012

"If you're greedy enough, dumb enough, selfish enough or racist enough to vote for Romney".

See the word "or"?

And yes. We live in a country of free will and free choice and laws and rules and regulations. Yet you say "shame" to someone with a choice different from yours.

Why did you sign up on DU? I am curious.

 

TomScheu

(3 posts)
21. Reply
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:53 PM
Oct 2012

I do not shame people for having a different choice that I do, I shame people for disowning family and friends for having different views than they do.

deadbrokediva

(48 posts)
36. It's hardly YOUR choice to decide that
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:06 PM
Oct 2012

Have you considered that maybe some of us who choose to get rid of family members because of their beliefs have maybe suffered at the hands of these people as well? I know I have. And to have to have their racist and misogynistic attitudes forced on me my entire life has robbed me of having a proper family, so who are you to judge how others handle their family matters?

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
77. I can confirm this too
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:43 AM
Oct 2012

It sucks and it's like this unconscious kind of mental abuse. It's like this strange miasma of republican and abuser that it's hard to tell which came first. One reinforces the other and just compounds their dysfunctional personality to which we are subjected. It's a horrific kind if relationship to be trapped in because not every person can understand what we're talking about. It's like being one of those people being operated on while awake but unable to move or scream. You just want this person to go away and yet you can't get them to go away. And once you're free of them, you never want to see them again.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
42. You think that's what you're doing? You're not shaming anyone here.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:26 PM
Oct 2012

Maybe you're more successful with it elsewhere. Doubt it. I doubt you're successful at much of anything that matters.

Enjoy your brief stay, troll? [url=http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php][img][/img][/url] Didn't think so. Good. Enjoy that pizza with your tombstone.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
50. Tom are you the same idiotic Tom Scheu that sells real estate in Downer's Grove IL and wrote
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:47 PM
Oct 2012

this sophmoric dribble?




https://www.realtown.com/community/RealTalk/view/PPDAFPA

https://www.realtown.com/members/tomscheu

Despite the media's infatuation with President Obama, you recognize his history and his current actions are way too far left for even your comfort. If it was not for the first amendment, people like Michelle Malkin, Glenn Beck, and even Fox News in general would not have the chance of even being heard. If their voices were not heard, just imagine how much further we would already be along the path of lost freedoms and away from the very reasons why our ancestors fled to America in the 1700's.



When trolling at DU it is generally a good idea not to post in your name and leave a direct line to your real life idiocy.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
57. what kind of idiot writes that stuff on their BUSINESS page?? Umm liberals outnumber conservatives
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:49 AM
Oct 2012

Oh Tom.. you're screwing yourself out of 51% of potential business, as I wouldn't give a dime to anyone with such regressive and ignorant views!!

And the irony here, that folks like Tom miss, is that the housing market is BAAACK!! Yep. Bush destroyed it in 2007/2008, and now it's going gangbusters. Oh, and the interest rates are low, more people are employed and BUYING homes (added millions of jobs IN America, NOT China!!) Consumer confidence is up, spending is up, and banks are lending again.

But yeah... Tom and is ilk in the real estate biz think that bazillinaires like Malkin and Beck are looking out for them.. LOLZ.

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
60. Just because someone is related to me by blood doesn't give them a free pass.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:23 AM
Oct 2012

Especially family members who never hesitate to regurgitate their foul opinions without taking the time to know the issues. There is no crime in deciding who you
want in your life. Just because you are a brother or sister, this doesn't give
carte blanche to say or do anything you want because you are my "blood." I want
people of character in my life. Family members can lack character too. Especially
the ones who treat ME like it is ME who is foul and ignorant for voting Democrat.

If you are uncaring, selfish, and bigoted, I have no room for you in my life,
especially after I have spent hours and hours and hours trying to understand you and your ignorance. Stupid is as stupid does. Don't forget the "Serenity Prayer" .. I don't allow people to dump their trash in my living room. Why should I allow them to dump their mental trash in my mind?

eridani

(51,907 posts)
67. I can never read that without mentally altering the last sentence to--
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:53 AM
Oct 2012

--and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I had to kill because THEY PISSED ME OFF!

deadbrokediva

(48 posts)
31. I am curious why YOU are here.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:04 PM
Oct 2012

Personally, I'm beyond caring about people having "different opinions". All of us here on DU KNOW what the correct opinion is, and it's not to be racist, ignorant, greedy and selfish like the Thugs are. Whose side are you on, anyway?

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
23. Defending racist assholes, how nice
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:57 PM
Oct 2012

Why should we tolerate those who hate people simply for the color of their skin, who they choose to love, etc? Why should we tolerate those wage war on women?

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
24. Maybe you're not paying attention
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:58 PM
Oct 2012

This isn't just a case of political differences. Political differences are when both sides want to achieve the same goal but disagree on how to get there. For example, if both parties wanted to find a way to help the middle class and they disagreed over the method to get there, that would be a political difference. In the current case, the Democrats want to help the middle class, and the Republicans want to destroy it. They have said out loud they want to hurt women, they want to hurt the middle class, they want to hurt gays, they want to destroy unions, they want to destroy Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. They want to take healthcare away from people.

In short, they are traitors to the American way of life. For me, this isn't just a "difference of opinion."

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
49. it's more than "differences"
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:45 PM
Oct 2012

I think you nailed it--Republicons want to hurt people, knock them down, Dems want to help people, lift them up.

Sad that it has come down to this.

I say to anyone who has the courage to get out of disturbing/toxic relationships, no matter what it takes. You won't have many regrets.


BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
61. I can't help but wonder how many lives have been ruined under the banner of "family"?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:31 AM
Oct 2012

You CAN choose your family -- family is more than blood... that's for SURE.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
68. Armisted Maupin once said that he much preferred his "logical family"--
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:57 AM
Oct 2012

--to his "biological family".

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
81. True--but I think it's very hard to reject family
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 09:53 AM
Oct 2012

especially if there ARE some things you still like about them, or if their "turn for the worse" has happened fairly recently. Or if you forgive them for being stupid enough to fall for the biggest pack of lies ever constructed to manipulate the American people.

And then there's how the comparison with people who are close to their families becomes its own kind of hurt. That longing for connection with kin doesn't magically go away.

It takes a strong person to draw the line, and the road to acceptance of a split must be experienced as a grieving and letting go process. Not every body has the strength to go through that willingly.

I've had to do it--to realize that the bond I thought was there, was probably my own delusion. Because people who love you do not disrespect you or vomit hate speech on you. I have come to think of the bonds symbolically as strings of love from my heart to another's. And when you come to the end with that person, you realize that these strings are gone. You have achieved the final severance which cannot be repaired (or at least you give up all HOPE of repair).

When you get rid rid of those who are hurting you--you have room in your life for those who you can trust NOT to hurt you.
They are out there.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
26. i tried your method with my brother
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:00 PM
Oct 2012

I sent snopes links in response to his misinformed emails about Obama and the democrats. He would never reply but send me more hate.. I did ask him to send no more political emails but they just kept coming. The last straw was when actually said he would be happy to see someone take Obama out. I no longer answer, call or write him. I ignore all his hate mails. He still sends them. Our dad died in 2000. Our mom died 2 years ago but she too hated Obama. They both hate him because he is black. I consider myself an orphan. It works for me.

This is my reply to tomshu. Which I wonder if you are pro Romney.

ciking724

(78 posts)
43. I don't think its just that they vote against Obama; these ignorant people are voting
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:34 PM
Oct 2012

against their own interests and the best interests of the country. It would be different if Romney actually stood for something, but he doesn't, and the only reason they are voting for him is because of blind, racist hatred, pure and simple. I am beginning to see this myself. In 2008, I stopped going to the only church I have attended in this city since I moved here in 2001, because I love the church and the pastor, but I did not like the hateful rhetoric spewed by some of the ministry staff; I just did not want to risk falling out with the church and thought I would go back after the election. Well, I did go back, but it wasn't the same, so I dropped out completely.

I have also been volunteering for a Christian organization headed by someone who supports Romney. At a recent board meeting, one of the members started laughing with another member about the Clint Eastwood incident at the convention and seemed to champion the threat of violence if anyone messed with him. After the meeting, I called him out about it and told him I thought it was shameful that Christians could speak that way, especially after what happened to Gabby Giffords. The Director usually tries to steer away from politics when I am present because she knows I am a Dem and support President Obama, and I try to stay out of their conversations just to keep the peace, but those days are over.

There just isn't any reasoning with them. They are blinded by hatred. They go on and on about the poor unborn children being aborted, but do you think they would adopt an unwanted child? Heck no. And the thing that gets me is they support capital punishment. And they go on tirades about how God is going to judge the country because of homosexuality, like he did Sodom and Gomorrah, when the truth is there were also some heterosexuals involved in the idolatry and sexual perversion at Sodom and Gomorrah. They believe everything Fixed Noise tells them, and it just seems a waste of time sometimes to argue with them.

So I understand well how those who've posted here feel when they say they've cut them off. I haven't completely given up yet, but getting there.

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
62. I don't condemn my family members, I just choose whom I want to associate with. AND THAT INCLUDES
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:38 AM
Oct 2012

WHICH FAMILY MEMBERS I CARE TO INCLUDE. I just decided I am tired of trying to make excuses for them. They can go off and have their own lives. I wish them no ill will. But -- I don't wish myself any ill will either. I refuse to allow ANY family member to continue to shove my face in the proverbial "shit" and expect me to take it because "they are family." NO MORE. My best friend used to tell me "John, you can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit, no matter how hard you try." Time for a new life. I will join hands with people of true moral character, those whom I respect and truly love, and will make my OWN family -- my own community.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. Presidential election years put everyone to the test
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:46 PM
Oct 2012

and it is one of those times when people show what they're really like.

dvhughes

(50 posts)
17. You are right to do it
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:48 PM
Oct 2012

I had the exact same epiphany several months ago but have yet to pull the trigger.
Why should I waste my time with people that are so willingly, so proudly, so selfish?
And why would I associate with such people? It is a poor reflection on me.

These are the same people that were so steadfast in their support of voting for person of such low standard as Sarah Palin to be the Vice President. Sarah Frikking Palin fer Chrisssakes! Do they have such colossal disrespect not only for the office but for their country? It is truly bewildering.

I was taking to my wife about this idea not long ago, and she says I should go ahead and cut the cord.
The time is coming.

18. Whatever gets you through the night.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:48 PM
Oct 2012

I keep my friends close and my enemies closer.
I have spirited debates and enjoy it.
Perhaps though, if you were running into abusive comments or your debates were going nowhere, you're better off.
To each their own.

deadbrokediva

(48 posts)
20. Been there, done that
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:50 PM
Oct 2012

I refuse to have RAPEublicans in my life to any extent. I too have cut off family members (assholes to begin with, so no big loss) and I actually did once try to reach out to Republicans to exchange dialogue in a friendly manner so I can understand where they come from and while it may have started off friendly, it would take only two or three emails before they would begin their bullying and insults and showing their true sociopathic colors, NOT TO MENTION THE ALL CAPS AND 15 EXCLAMATION POINTS BIT.

In fact, I would take the shunning of RAPEublicans to a whole 'nother level. I am 100% in favor of political segregation. I say cut the country in half - Thugs on the East Coast, rational intelligent people (libs) on the West - and elect two separate Presidents or "co-Presidents" - I don't know, I don't have all the bugs worked out, but you get what I mean. Let them have the dream country they want with no abortions for anyone, no gays, no blacks, no illegals, and rampant hunger because they don't believe in food stamps, and we on the left will have ours - universal health care, nutrition for kids, good education, and civil rights for all.

Honestly, I don't see any other way anymore. I am ashamed to live in this country and call myself an American and I'm anticipating a civil war at some point if we don't divorce each other.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
22. I have no time for the party that thinks a rape victim
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:56 PM
Oct 2012

should bear a child she doesn't want because 'that was God's plan'. I'm tired of these jerks thinking they know what God thinks, feels, or wants.

So I am with you, BigBearJohn. I live in WI and I will NEVER forget who around me had a "I Stand With Scott Walker" sign in their yard. They are dead to me. Period.

If someone wants to vote for these folks, fine, that is their choice. It is MY choice to not associate with any lying, shape-shifting, zombie-eyed, granny-starving plutocrat, or his associates.

This is personal this time.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
27. Same here.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:00 PM
Oct 2012

I'm getting too old to listen to their crap anymore. I feel much better now that they're out of my life.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
33. Republicans on my block cold shouldered me after my anti-Bush sign and stickers in 2000 & 2004
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:04 PM
Oct 2012

Now I don't even respond to the phony asshoes.

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
34. I wanna agree with you: I'm fed up, too, However,
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

I do understand that some people just don't have the self-actualization to accept reality or deal with details, history, policies, and making sure their words match their actions.

Some people in my life just aren't there. Those people know exactly why I am against the republican party, and I did turn my parents and some others.

But-

Some people just can't get beyond what their priest says. They feel that would be too much to give up for me.

Ii get that.

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
40. I've taken that tack since RAYGUN. Cuts out some Low Information, non-confrontational "nice"
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:12 PM
Oct 2012

ones, but in the end it's not a loss. I'm talking about the "nice" ones who would like to get along with everybody and who, in the first broaching of the politics topic, take a bemused reaction like it can all be a mish-mash of pleasantries. With me, soon, I make the point that people with smiles but horrible politics don't see the real effects of their politics on real people, and the smiles are, without hyperbole, monstrous.

In '04 I had just made contact with a web-ring of my shipmates from my Vietnam ship, but it became clear that their main activities were to slam Dems and especially KERRY and to trade wingnut chain letters. I knew there was no convincing and it was pretty much all against one, so after some skirmishes, I told them I was opting out, didn't cuss them on my way out, just said that our shared youth was its own thing and that's what I would choose to remember.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
41. I can't cut off my extended family, they have always been
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:14 PM
Oct 2012

for me when I need them. Also we have all agreed to disagree and politics is a subject that is never brought up at family get togethers.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
45. +100 That's how I feel and operate.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

My Republican Sister (who doesn't like to discuss politics) and Dem BIL came up for a 10 day visit last week. So we turned off the TV and watched DVD's, talked for hours and used our computers to check the news we each wanted to see. I am addicted to news programs...MSNBC 24/7. It was kind of frustrating not to hear what Rachael and all the gang had to say for a whole week. Then we were able to watch TV again because we were so interested in tracking Hurricane Sandy.

They left this afternoon ...a couple days early in order to ready their property and prepare for Sandy as they live on LI. Inside I was a little happy because I was so anxious to watch the news again...but damn...it's Saturday...not much news.

Anyway, it isn't hard to get along with ReThug family or friends if you just DON'T discuss politics.
Of course, if they are RACIST, hateful and pushy and refuse to stop talking politics ...that's a different story! If we can have family and friends of different religions...we can do the same with politics!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
85. You're lucky they agree not to bring it up
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:24 AM
Oct 2012

In may family the liberals don't bring it up for that reason. But some of the right wingers cannot control themselves.

They see Obama on TV and have to start a rant about how awful he is. Or you are trapped in a car with them and get stuck listening to it.

They are too selfish to keep it to themselves and don't care how anyone else feels.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
46. They can only be counted on when it's beneficial to them.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 09:12 PM
Oct 2012

There's always a catch.

But, I'd also say this, we're all Americans. We just have to make the responsible decisions for them.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
52. I can't view things that way
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:00 PM
Oct 2012

My biological dad votes Democratic, works with kids who have aids and treated me like garbage so I cut him out of my life completely.

My grandfather voted straight ticket Republican, ran his church's Meals on Wheels program and would give anybody the shirt off his back. My uncle votes Republican, would give you the shirt off his back and is a live and let live guy. I would never cut them out of my life.





Dan

(3,554 posts)
65. I do miss my former repub friends,
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:07 AM
Oct 2012

but realized during 2004 - that we no longer had anything in common.

LittlestStar

(224 posts)
55. I have cut off most of my neighborhood. Its ok. I am antisocial anyway.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:32 AM
Oct 2012

I live in a "delusional enough to think we earned it all on our own" mid-upper class neighborhood, white except for a couple asian and black families. But seriously once DD is outta school I am so outta here!

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
56. I'm happy to say that I probably have 5 FB friends that are Romney-fans. Period.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:43 AM
Oct 2012

No one in my life in the real world. It's refreshing!!! I'm so lucky that my entire family are all liberals!

cherish44

(2,566 posts)
59. I'm not cutting off the Republicans in my life
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:25 AM
Oct 2012

Although when the Republican policies end up biting them in the ass (which they inevitably will) I will give them a big fat self-righteous "I told you so"

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
64. I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do. I am just sharing a decision I made. Good or bad -- it's
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:51 AM
Oct 2012

my decision and I take full responsibility for it. It scrambles my brains to be constantly surrounded by people whose minds are unfettered by the laws of logic. I don't want them around me anymore, if I can help it. End of story.

Seeking Serenity

(2,840 posts)
97. I am, and I love him more than mere words can express.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:13 PM
Oct 2012

After 20+ years, my heart still races when he walks into a room.



(On edit, we fully accept that we differ most distinctly in our politics; we've just agreed to disagree on politics and that we know we'll likely always cancel each others' votes out.)

 

coldwaterintheface

(137 posts)
70. My only question is what took you so long to cut them out of your life?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:01 AM
Oct 2012

I have nothing but hate and distain for Pubs and those that support them in any way shape or form.

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
73. Suckered by the old idea: "blood is thicker than water." Now I just believe blood is thick (headed)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:00 AM
Oct 2012

When a family member shows me they are lacking character, I don't have to hate
them or condemn them, but I certainly don't have to tolerate them either. If a family member wants to walk around with shit in their pants, that's their choice. BUT, I don't have to invite them into my house and pretend to enjoy the smell. (sorry to be so gross, but it's late).

Any family member of mine who can still vote for Romney after listening to his 47%
remarks and hearing the Republican stand on rape and abortion and social security and medicare -- is not the kind of person I want in my life. Sure, it saddens me (and disgusts me way more than just a little), but I have my own sanity to consider as well,

I have a real hard time with stupid people.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
71. I've tried being reasonable, for years I tried
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:41 AM
Oct 2012

But I've been on your bandwagon too. They're gone and I'm happier.

The only ones left are in my extended family which I avoid like the plague.

Congrats to you.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
74. I'm not going to disown a family member based on their thinking that the top rate of tax
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:04 AM
Oct 2012

should be 3.6% lower than where I think it should be. Even if their view on gay marriage is the same as what Obama's was in 2008.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
82. You KNOW it's not that simple
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

if it were just about a 3.6% change in tax rates, who would care? Fiscal policy? Meh....

But there's also the racism, the gender discrimination, the hate of sexual preference, and countless other civil liberties that are just obstacles to Republican desire for domination.

There's the blood lust for war, but the insistence that war be fought by other people children, not theirs.

There also the push to establish religious law in America, and if that doesn't scare the hell out of you, perhaps nothing will.

Come on...You've been around DU long enough to have read the MANY posts detailing frighteningly corrupt and hateful behavior of Republicans, why are you playing that this is about a 3% tax cut?

What's your agenda?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
87. Most Republicans are not racist, gay-hating, contraception-banning, misogynist warmongers.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:17 AM
Oct 2012

Including the ones in my extended family. Todd Akin is not representative of most Republicans that I have met personally.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
95. Most Republicans are racist, gay-hating, misogynist warmongers. Those are almost
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:10 PM
Oct 2012

pre-requisites to be a Rape-publican.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
100. maybe not, but what are they
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:21 PM
Oct 2012

when they face the facts that the core of the party are racist, gay-hating, contraception-banning, misogynist warmongers, and STILL choose to support the fuckers?

How will you judge those who stand by and let all that we discuss here happen? Don't tell me you don't judge people, because I'm talking about using your good judgement, not being judgmental.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
92. Will you disown them for thinking that women who become pregnant from rape are
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:05 PM
Oct 2012

part of God's glorious plan?

Not trying to be snarky or a dickhead, just trying to discern where you draw the line.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
104. Yea I'm with you there too
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:34 PM
Oct 2012

It's not as thou the Democratic Party is holier than thou either. If my socialist friends don't disown me for being too far to the right, I'm not going to do that to my Republican friends for that either.

WooWooWoo

(454 posts)
79. my cousin unfriended me on facebook because I'm a democrat
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 08:52 AM
Oct 2012

and it upset me greatly. We're still family, and if you can't be friends with someone just because of their political beliefs then this nation is doomed. The great thing about this country is that people with different beliefs can still talk to one another and get along personally at the end of the day.

I would never stop talking to someone because they were a Republican. Some of my best friends and family members are as right wing as you can get, but I love them all. I have history with them and that history has nothing to do with politics.

Sometimes you just have to stop talking politics and focusing on the things that divide you and instead talk about the things you share and focus on why you became friends in the first place.

Life is too short to hate people and carry animosity towards others.

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
114. if that works for you, more power to you. I'm fed up and make no apologies for being so.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:52 PM
Oct 2012

I will no longer commune with blockheads. As the old saying goes, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and it annoys the pig." There are PLENTY of beautiful, uplifting, caring people in this world to join hands with. I'm setting all others free to live their own lives. I CHOOSE THE PEOPLE TO FILL MY LIFE WITH. YOU ARE FREE TO CHOOSE YOURS.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
83. Fresh air and sunlight
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:17 AM
Oct 2012

so well put.

That's what I turn to on Sunday mornings, instead of church and the political talk shows. And my blood pressure is better for it.

I loved my old Episcopal church but couldn't find a comparable one when I moved south, so I decided to try a Baptist church. OMG -- the hell-fire-brimstone-born again shit and homophobia! When I resisted their version of baptism and chided that I was born right the first time, christened as a baby and confirmed (after weeks of catechism classes) at age 12, the church seniors looked at me as though I'd sprouted a tail and horns. Bye, bye church.

As for the talk shows, I nearly gave up on them with the ridiculous treatment of Clinton over Paula Jones, Whitewater and then the whole impeachment ridiculousness, but the straw that broke the camel's back came when they allowed Cheney free reign to sell the Iraq War.

My loathing of repukes has grown exponentially and I can no longer tolerate any of them!

So Sundays -- any days -- outside in the garden with fresh air and sunlight and my dogs is mind saving, stress relieving and a little slice of heaven away from the lies and hatred-filled world repukes promote.

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
86. Pretty sad if you ask me.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:34 AM
Oct 2012

Part of being an adult is accepting that other people have different opinions than you. I can't imagine "cutting off" a family member over politics.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
96. What about a family member who thinks pregnancies resulting from rape are part
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

of God's glorious plan???? That's mainstream Rape-publican ideology today.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
102. Don't know any of those people
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:31 PM
Oct 2012

I'm certain that they exist in sizable numbers, but my Republicans friends aren't fundamentalist Christians. They're voting for Rmoney, of course, but had Santorum won the nomination they would've probably voted third party or stayed home.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
105. Okie-dokie then. I don't know how anyone can still vote Rape-publican after
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:36 PM
Oct 2012

a Senate Candidate like Mourdock says pregnancies resulting from rape are part of God's plan.

Or when a high mucky-muck like Newt Gingrich tells women they should just 'get over it' about pregnancies resulting from rape.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
108. If animal rights were my top issue I dont know how anybody could support any mainstream candidate
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:46 PM
Oct 2012

Considering they all support raising animals in cruel conditions and slaughtering them wholesale for human consumption.

The bottom line is that people see the world differently.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
111. Rest it all you want, I'm not friends with Newt Gingrich or Richard Mourdock
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:15 PM
Oct 2012

But I'm also not holier than thou enough to believe that my moral decisions don't passively contribute to human suffering in some form or another. For example, I'm typing this on an Apple computer that was made by Chinese workers in horrendous working conditions. My socialist friends have just as much reason to disown me for doing that as I do for disowning my Republican friends for voting Romney when he has nutbags like Gingrich and Mourdock in his coalition.


 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
113. I'm a Socialist (Democratic). I don't disown you for using an Apple
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:29 PM
Oct 2012

computer

My political beliefs are so much a part of my core that I can't stay 'friends' with or listen to people who belong to what I consider a fascist political party.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
107. LOL! No way! Really?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:45 PM
Oct 2012

Guess who's coming to dinner!



Conservative politics kills, and is bad for children.





Zorra

(27,670 posts)
98. I understand. I don't hang out with conservatives,
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:17 PM
Oct 2012

and if there were someplace that I could move and live relatively comfortably where there were no conservatives, I would move there tomorrow.

Mean people suck.

mnhtnbb

(31,386 posts)
99. I did it in 2008 with my SIL. Did it with a fb friend--someone I'd worked with--a year ago.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:20 PM
Oct 2012

Have since cut off some other fb friends for being mostly right wing idiots.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
106. The only ones I have to disown are the people I can't have rational discourse with...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:37 PM
Oct 2012

Or at least agree to not talk about it if we can't have rational discourse. And I have to tell you that nobody like that was really my friend to begin with.

I have good discussions and debates with my Republican friends, just as I have good discussions and debates with my socialist friends.

BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
115. To those who say "it's.just politics," tell that to someone who dies because of a loss of healthcare
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:09 PM
Oct 2012

Or tell that to a senior who loses food stamps and can't eat. Tell that to a single mother of three who loses her only means of support when her job is shipped overseas. Only politics? That's a point of view that can only be expressed by someone who's never suffered from the results of callous political decisions. Must be nice looking down from that ivory tower, eh?

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