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Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:06 AM

"Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican"

Just heard on the radio that new billboards are being put up in "Predominately black communities in the Austin, San Antonio, and Dallas areas to stress the important fact that MLK Jr was a Republican so YOU should vote Republican too."

My gosh, they are REALLY reaching and it is laughable. Luckily, there has already been a huge back lash and people are demanding that these billboards be taken down.

Some of these Repukes are really disgusting.

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Reply "Martin Luther King Jr was a Republican" (Original post)
txdemsftw Oct 2012 OP
S_E_Fudd Oct 2012 #1
Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #2
cherish44 Oct 2012 #3
txdemsftw Oct 2012 #5
patricia92243 Oct 2012 #8
WinkyDink Oct 2012 #14
bluestate10 Oct 2012 #47
lpbk2713 Oct 2012 #4
graham4anything Oct 2012 #6
libinnyandia Oct 2012 #19
graham4anything Oct 2012 #24
libinnyandia Oct 2012 #35
Enrique Oct 2012 #7
reformist2 Oct 2012 #9
deutsey Oct 2012 #10
MrScorpio Oct 2012 #11
Zen Democrat Oct 2012 #12
sadbear Oct 2012 #18
justiceischeap Oct 2012 #13
WinkyDink Oct 2012 #16
justiceischeap Oct 2012 #20
LeftinOH Oct 2012 #15
txdemsftw Oct 2012 #17
EC Oct 2012 #21
Risen Demon Oct 2012 #22
denverbill Oct 2012 #23
AspenRose Oct 2012 #27
AspenRose Oct 2012 #25
hiphopnation Oct 2012 #26
We People Oct 2012 #28
Risen Demon Oct 2012 #32
bluestate10 Oct 2012 #46
Octafish Oct 2012 #29
Maeve Oct 2012 #30
nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #31
CheapShotArtist Oct 2012 #33
Iggo Oct 2012 #34
Jack Rabbit Oct 2012 #36
bluestate10 Oct 2012 #42
GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #37
madokie Oct 2012 #38
standingtall Oct 2012 #39
bluestate10 Oct 2012 #40
JI7 Oct 2012 #41
vaberella Oct 2012 #43
Marr Oct 2012 #44
-LOKI -BAD FOR YA Oct 2012 #49
Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #45
loyalsister Oct 2012 #48

Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:08 AM

1. He was...

Until Richard Nixon turned his back on him as a part of the Republican Southern strategy and the Kennedy's began supporting his efforts...

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:08 AM

2. If MLK was alive today.....

....there would be no end to the attacks against him by Republicans and conservatives. You think they are rough on Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton? It would be nothing compared to what they would say about MLK.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:09 AM

3. The Republican Party of the 1960s is not the Republican Party of today

I'm pretty sure he would not be a Republican if he were alive today

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Response to cherish44 (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:11 AM

5. I agree

MLK Jr was a very smart man who would have never stood by these types of Repukes today.

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Response to cherish44 (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:18 AM

8. Yep! Need to be sure that message comes thru loud and clear to the people

that are being targeted by the Republicans of today.

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Response to cherish44 (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:34 AM

14. Barry Goldwater, anyone? The 1968 Conventions? Remove the rose-colored glasses.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #14)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:57 PM

47. A correction on your logic.

Goldwater ran after the civil rights legislation of Kennedy and Johnson. Goldwater ran after southern democrats turned lockstep into republicans and the south went heavily republican to spite the fact that democrats pushed for civil rights for negroes. Goldwater was the first manifestation of the modern republican party.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:11 AM

4. Abraham Lincoln was a republican




But he would have nothing but contempt for today's republican party.


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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:11 AM

6. it is totally irrelevant to 2012. things were different back then

 

and in NYC there were 4 parties
liberal
conservative
dem
repub

and the liberal/conserv. was actually just as or more important

that's why one has to be careful with labels

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:05 AM

19. In recent decades the liberal party was not partcularly liberal. It helped elect D'Amato.

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Response to libinnyandia (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:53 AM

24. he's interesting-do you know he stood next to Kristen G. when she was sworn in?

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #24)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:33 PM

35. No. He actually wasn't too bad comared to most of the present GOP senators.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:17 AM

7. this is why they want the shcools to stop teaching about the Civil Rights Movement

anyone who would buy the suggestion that MLK Jr. might support today's GOP in any way, they know nothing about MLK Jr. or about today's GOP.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:18 AM

9. We should turn this into a teachable moment, why the South went from Dem to Repug.


I'm afraid a lot of people don't know the story behind how the South became the base of today's Republican Party. It's a pretty ugly story.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:20 AM

10. If so, it was before the racist Dixiecrats joined the GOP

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:21 AM

11. We didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left us. nt

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:26 AM

12. African-Americans in the Jim Crow South were ALL Republicans in the '50's.

That's because the Democrats were the Old South Jefferson Davis KKK Democrats. Kennedy and LBJ turned that around and the racist Dems became Republicans en masse. Remember, Goldwater won a big chunk of the South in 1964, George Wallace won it in 1968, and Nixon and Republicans have had it since.

Old labels do not apply.

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Response to Zen Democrat (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:42 AM

18. This ^

Republicans don't believe in change.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:31 AM

13. The republican sheep have no sense of history

For example, when anyone brings up racism, they counter that Southern Democrats supported slavery in the civil war era and it was the repubs that wanted to end it. They refuse to acknowledge that their party and the Democratic party have virtually switched places when it comes to social politics. Bill Maher is certainly right about the republican bubble.

And black voters are not going to see these billboards and be like, "Oh, so I gotta vote for the man that lies all the time." From my interactions with my african-american co-workers, Mitt is not going to get away with this. They DO NOT like him. It probably has a lot more to do with his religion than anything else.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #13)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:37 AM

16. It PROBABLY has to do with the economy, Civil Rights, and equality.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:05 AM

20. Which ties into economy, civil rights & equality. nt

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:36 AM

15. Big whoop. So were my parents and grandparents, but the modern GOP

is an in-name-only entity which conveniently -and disingenuously- claims the long history of the Republican party as their own. Deceitful bastards.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:39 AM

17. Hmm..

apparently, these signs were sponsored by RagingElephants- a black conservative group... and many have already been taken down 20 days ahead of schedule (they were supposed to be up for a solid month).

GOOD!

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:11 AM

21. At that time

Strom Thurmond was a Democrat.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:16 AM

22. He wouldn't have been killed by a hired gunman

Not today. Instead, it would be a religious right fanatic out in the open who was told by a powerful religious right pundit that "God has given you the task to kill this man". The reason? The same: for quoting truth and wisdom against power and corruption.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:16 AM

23. Well I guess Republicans are Communists then because they keep telling me MLK was a commie.

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Response to denverbill (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:00 AM

27. LOL

Yeah, all (black) Democrats are communist somehow

So they can't have it both ways!

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:59 AM

25. MLK was against the Vietnam War.

I'd point out that Romney was protesting FOR the Vietnam War.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:59 AM

26. sigh

Besides it being irrelevant, it's simply not true.

David Garrow — author of Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, which won the 1987 Pulitzer Prize for biography — advised against assigning King to either party. "It's simply incorrect to call Dr. King a Republican," Garrow told us.

However, he said he wouldn't call King a Democrat, either, because he had "very positive feelings" about Republican Richard Nixon in the late 1950s and "extremely positive feelings" about Republican Nelson Rockefeller, the New York governor who later served as vice president. Also, Garrow said, King became "a very harsh critic" of Democratic President Lyndon Johnson over his escalation of the Vietnam War and "wouldn't necessarily have backed (Democratic presidential nominee) Hubert Humphrey in '68 had he (King) lived."


I can't believe we're still debating this. This is clown shoes, man!

edited to add link:
http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2011/jan/17/raging-elephants/houston-group-says-martin-luther-king-jr-was-repub/

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:38 AM

28. The backlash you mentioned is good indication of how intelligent the readers of these billboards are

By and large, they won't be fooled - and the rethugs are wasting their $ on such advertising. This advertising isn't false per se, but it has an untrustworthy purpose.

If rethugs played it straight and honest, they would lose and be buried in a colossal landslide.

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Response to We People (Reply #28)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:21 PM

32. You are correct

Part of the Southern Strategy and the adoption of Christianity into the right enabled the rethug party to make justifications for such horrible actions. The duped christian voters will always accept evil, as long as it's wrapped in an American flag, holding a bible.

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Response to We People (Reply #28)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:53 PM

46. If republicans were straight and honest, they would say today, fuck the racists in their party,

fuck the women haters in their party, fuck the anti-hispanic people in their party. If republicans were straight and honest, they would say today that they were going to embrace a brand of fiscal conservatism where corporations didn't get welfare, struggling people that need help get welfare. Of course, republicans would lose the election horribly, the House would go almost 100% democrat and the Senate would have nearly 100 democrats over a couple of election cycles. But by throwing out the worst elements of the republican party, the party would save itself and one day return to prominence as a serious party.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:50 AM

29. Jack Kennedy called Mrs. King. (Richard Nixon did not.)

JFK helped him change his mind. Just prior to the 1960, then-Sen. John F. Kennedy risked alienating the conservative Southern Democrats by talking to Coretta Scott King while Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. rotted in a "backwoods Georgia jail." The photo below was taken when Dr. King visited President Kennedy at the White House.



Robert Kennedy-His Life by Evan Thomas

EXCERPT…

(Robert) Kennedy seemed to fret about what to do as John Seigenthaler drove him to the airport early that afternoon. He was flying to New York for a campaign event. Maybe, he told Seigenthaler, he should take the heat off his brother and act as a "lightning rod" by calling the judge himself. Seigenthaler, whose phone had been ringing all morning with calls of angry southern politicians protesting JFK's call to Mrs. King, urged Bobby to stay out of it. Bobby wearily agreed.

The next day, a press aide told Seigenthaler that the wires were reporting that the judge had released King -- at the intervention of Robert Kennedy.

Can't be true, Seigenthaler said; Kennedy had assured him he wouldn't call the judge. But it was true. Seigenthaler called Kennedy, who sheepishly disclosed the call. He said that, on the plane to New York, he had got to thinking about the whole matter. It was "disgraceful...It just burned me up," Kennedy said. "It grilled me. The more I thought about the injustice of it, the more I thought what a son of a bitch the judge was." So Kennedy called the judge and gave him a lecture on the constitutional right to make bail, and the judge agreed to release King. Later, speaking with Wofford, Kennedy said he told the judge, "If he was a decent American, he would let King out by sundown. I called him because it made me so damn angry to think of that bastard sentencing a citizen to four months hard labor for a minor traffic offense."

The impact of JFK's call to Mrs. King and RFK's intervention with the judge was immense. Daddy King, Martin Luther King's father, an extremely influential Baptist preacher, openly shifted his endorsement from Nixon to Kennedy. The Kennedy campaign brilliantly exploited the symbolism of phone calls with a samizdat campaign in the black community. Careful not to tout the Kennedy-King connection in the popular mainstream press, lest southern voters take umbrage, the Kennedy campaign published hundreds of thousands of leaflets and handbills that were distributed at black churches and bars. On one side, a flyer read: "Jack Kennedy called Mrs. King" On the other side it said: "Richard Nixon did not." Many political analysts believe that this PR offensive decided the election. In a half-dozen states in the East and Midwest carried by Kennedy by very narrow margins on election day, black turnout made the difference. Richard Nixon's chauffeur understood. "Mr. Vice-President," he told his boss after the election, "you know I had been talking to my friends. They had been all for you. But when Mr. Robert Kennedy called the judge to get Dr. King out of jail -- well, they just all turned to him."

CONTINUED…

Excerpted from "Robert Kennedy: His Life” by Evan Thomas, pages 101-102.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:38 PM

31. He was, then the Dems went to the Republican Party

you know the Dixiecrats?

Technically they are not lying.

History, I know

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:11 PM

33. Shame on them for trying to con people like this,

but I'll give today's RWers credit for one thing: they are at least making a teeny-weeny bit of progress in regards to their racism, compared to the RWers of the MLK era. Back in the day, RWers were proud and open about it. Today, most of them don't seem to be as flamboyant, and are actually using prominent black figures to attract minorities to their side--something that conservatives of yesteryear would've never thought of doing.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:15 PM

34. Yeah, so was Lincoln.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:35 PM

36. If Martin Luther King belonged to the party of Jesse Helms . . .

. . . then I am a retired Kamikaze pilot.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #36)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:40 PM

42. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurman were democrats at one time.

The southern democratic party of King's early manhood was an extreme racist party. All of the powerful southern leaders were democrats. Northern democrats embracing integration is what turned the southerners into republicans. You realize that George Wallace was running as a democrat when he was shot in Maryland don't you?

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:26 PM

37. Reagan was a Democrat.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:35 PM

38. I think that is true

1956 republicon party platform: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=25838

I used to wonder why my father was a registered republicon until recently when I ran across the 1956 republiCON platform. After reading it I realized that the puke party of today and of the late '50s and early '60s are completely different.
I believe it was tricky dick who foisted the present mind set of the puke party upon us.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:35 PM

39. They tried this same crap last election cycle


Pretty stupid considering Doctor Kings own children are still alive, and Coretta wrote many books to debunk that garbage.

And yes if he were still alive today conservatives would be calling him every name in the book.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:36 PM

40. That MLK was a republican doesn't surprise me.

The majority of Black people voted for Richard Nixon in 1960. Black people voted nearly 100% republican up until FDR. Power politicians of King's younger days were racist democrats, so it makes sense that any thinking person that hated what the south was then would register as a republican, because they were going nowhere as a democrat then.

The republican party of today is what the southern democratic party of King's youth was, a racist party out of step with reality.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:40 PM

41. Strom THurmond, Jesse Helms etc use to be Democrats

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:43 PM

43. LaRouche claims that Edgar Allen Poe and Harriet Tubman were CIA spies for the US Government.

Every group has it's far reaching clowns.

However...the Republicans back in the day were far far far far far more left-leaning than they are today. Even more left-leaning than left-leaning today. Especially if Lincoln means anything.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:45 PM

44. Ever notice how Republican marketing always assumes the voter is a complete moron?

Anyone with a marginal awareness of recent history knows that the racist Democrats of the south all turned Republican en masse just a few decades ago, in response to Civil Rights legislation.

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Response to Marr (Reply #44)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 07:15 PM

49. do not forget they live in a bubble,when you wear ruby eyeglasses everything is red n\t

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:51 PM

45. Considering what the Democratic Party in the south was at the time....it's no surprise.

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Response to txdemsftw (Original post)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:04 PM

48. The suffragettes were Republican

Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton were republicans, but they sure as hell would not be today. It seems that they were opposed to abortion. But, I think their values regarding women's rights would definitely overcome those leanings.

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