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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:42 PM

Proof regarding O'Keefe's latest, misleading editing job? See here:

Note - times are referring to the Youtube timer, not O'Keefe's.



In the video above, Moran clearly advised the fool in question, that it would be "tough" to vote for someone else, because of the required documentation. He humored him a bit, but indicated that he should commit his energy to a legit GOTV effort. Moran went on to suggest that there are places where GOTV would be fruitful. ... When Moran started to say "I don't want to see it" - meaning someone commit fraud, he was immediately cut off with a barrage of questions. Then, the interviewer started asking for names, which could be interpreted by Moran, to mean names to assist with a GOTV effort.

Most damning for O'Keefe - at roughly 17:20 minutes into the youtube video, O'Keefe CLEARLY inserts Moran's voice, his lips aren't moving. Yet, O'Keefe inserts the words "yeah a bank statement" in response to a question. The comment was (seemingly) lifted from another portion of the video, where Moran is advising on legitimate documentation. J.O. also changes the dialog, (which is again apparent) as the movement of Moran's lips do NOT match the words. It's the same thing O'Keefe did to Juan Vera. The face and lips were blurred and words apparently inserted. Not to mention, one can not see the interviewers face/words. The entire interview portion could be edited in.

WTF more do people need, to demonstrate that O'Keefe is a slimy fraud?


Moran leads the conversation back to legit GOTV efforts, over and over again. At 20 minutes in, Moran discourages the fool saying polls will be ready to enforce voter protection and are "cracking down on" fraud. He ends by suggesting again that the interviewer make phone calls.

The worst thing Moran did was perhaps humor the fraudster. While I wish he wouldn't have done so, it's a huge stretch to assert that Moran was involved in a conspiracy to commit voter fraud.

IMO, the only fraud involved in the questionable video, is O'Keefe.

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Reply Proof regarding O'Keefe's latest, misleading editing job? See here: (Original post)
mzmolly Oct 2012 OP
Beaverhausen Oct 2012 #1
mzmolly Oct 2012 #2
Beaverhausen Oct 2012 #3
mzmolly Oct 2012 #4
Bennyboy Oct 2012 #5
mzmolly Oct 2012 #7
Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #6
Scuba Oct 2012 #8
Scootaloo Oct 2012 #9
mzmolly Oct 2012 #10
Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #11
Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #12
mzmolly Oct 2012 #14
Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #16
mzmolly Oct 2012 #17
Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #18
mzmolly Oct 2012 #19
SomethingFishy Oct 2012 #20
JI7 Oct 2012 #21
cali Oct 2012 #23
mzmolly Oct 2012 #24
cali Oct 2012 #26
mzmolly Oct 2012 #27
cali Oct 2012 #29
mzmolly Oct 2012 #30
cry baby Oct 2012 #13
mzmolly Oct 2012 #15
cry baby Oct 2012 #22
mzmolly Oct 2012 #25
cry baby Oct 2012 #31
mzmolly Oct 2012 #32
bemildred Oct 2012 #28

Response to mzmolly (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:46 PM

1. Just telling someone HOW to do something isn't fraud as is, say throwing out voter registration form

I won't watch the vid so I can't comment on what he did or didn't say, but really, it isn't fraud until someone votes twice.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:47 PM

2. All one has to do is watch at about 17:20-17:35 in, to see the smarm in action.

Though I don't blame you for not watching.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:52 PM

3. OK I did- none of the words seemed to match what it looked like he was saying

but we should still ignore this crap, IMHO.

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Response to Beaverhausen (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:54 PM

4. No way should we ignore it. That's what happend with Juan Vera for the most part.

I refuse to let J.O. mislead and then attempt to address an issue when it's too late. I plan to actually watch O'Keefe's videos so I can immediately defend his victims, when appropriate.

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Response to mzmolly (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:59 PM

5. I posted this on O'Keefe's FB Page

 

I friended him a while back (keep your friends close and your enemies even closer) and he posed this. I just posted it. thanks.

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Response to Bennyboy (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:04 PM

7. Thank you.

... I think.

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Response to mzmolly (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:02 PM

6. O'Keefe will continue to be a dirty trickster until he lands in jail.

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Response to mzmolly (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:23 PM

8. Why is this little shitstain not in a cell?

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Response to Scuba (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:30 PM

9. White Republican

They don't go to jail. Ever.

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Response to mzmolly (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:56 PM

10. Moran's son resigns over video - TPM

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Response to mzmolly (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:02 PM

11. Leadership Institute is a few block away

 

in Arlington. Is O'Keefe skulking around his old area?

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Response to mzmolly (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:00 PM

12. Sorry...

 

Anything other than "I refuse to have anything to do with this and I believe what you are trying to do is illegal" is proof enough that this guy isn't smart enough to run a campaign.

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Response to Lightbulb_on (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:16 PM

14. Are you saying that we actually know what was said

somehow?

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:34 PM

16. Not sure what you are saying...

 

Do you think it was dubbed or something?

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Response to Lightbulb_on (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:19 PM

17. To an extent -yes.

That is my belief.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #17)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:22 PM

18. Why?

 

That makes literally zero sense.

It was a long conversation both in the edited and unedited versions and would be easily shown as a fake and would also be a massive win for Moran (both of them.)

Occam's razor...

Which one makes more sense?

a) A political campaign manager has some crappy ethics and isn't that bright

or

b) A video producer, who knows that everything he puts out will be examined frame by frame, would release an easily detectable and career ending film

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Response to Lightbulb_on (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:35 AM

19. I'm going to refer you to the OP again.

Read carefully, this time.

Suggesting O'Keefe has a reputable career, is a joke.

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Response to Lightbulb_on (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:43 AM

20. Well considering that it's a James O'Keefe video

and he's been proven to be a fraud on at least 2 occasions and has been convicted of illegally trying to tamper with a Senators phone, I'd say he has exactly ZERO credibility. Not to mention the fact that the guy is a fucking freeloading asshole who begs for money of the internet so he can make these pathetic videos. A leech, a moocher, a taker, pick your favorite GOP name for those who don't do shit.

Maybe he should just go and get a real job.

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Response to Lightbulb_on (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:47 AM

21. in the case of O'Keefe who is a fucking joke it's easily b as he has done it before

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:48 AM

23. Why would Patrick Moran have resigned if it was dubbed?

Why wouldn't he have stated that he never said that? Look, what Moran did and said was pretty clearly not illegal, but it was stupid.

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Response to cali (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:51 PM

24. I believe he would have, rather than give the matter more attention in the midst of an election.

Why are you promoting and defending O'Keefe, here?

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:23 PM

26. promoting O'Keefe? Hardly. Why are you

despicably putting words in my mouth? Oh, never mind. I forgot who I was talking to here. How par for YOUR course.

Disgusting but predictable.

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Response to cali (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:10 PM

27. My course?

You're the one (who appears to be) advancing the agenda of O'Keefe, not me.

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Response to cali (Reply #29)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:10 PM

30. "Why would Patrick Moran have resigned if it was dubbed?" ~ cali

Why would you ask this question, were it not to suggest that the resignation proves the video/audio was not altered?

We agree that some of what Moran said was stupid. People are victimized for being polite, all too often. But I will not join in blaming the victim.

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Response to mzmolly (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:04 PM

13. Other than the video, is there a link to the takedown? Nt

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Response to cry baby (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:26 PM

15. Takedown?

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:37 AM

22. The text in the box in your OP. did you write that or did you find it elsewhere?

It's a brilliant takedown of the video.

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Response to cry baby (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:53 PM

25. I wrote it.

Thanks for the complement.

I find all one has to do is actually watch the videos, in the fullest possible form and the editing/splicing will be clear. Problem is, most don't take the time to do so, which is understandable.

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Response to mzmolly (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:31 PM

31. You did a great job and I agree with all your assessments about the video.

Thank you.

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Response to cry baby (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:56 PM

32. Thank you again,

cry baby.

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