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Trump lawyers confirm he's getting charged (Original Post) Goodheart Jan 2022 OP
I'm waiting for two reliable sources on this story BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #1
If this was even remotely true it would be all over the mainstream media. former9thward Jan 2022 #2
"If this WERE even remotely true..." dpibel Jan 2022 #3
I have never represented myself as highly educated. former9thward Jan 2022 #4
So you're not UnderThisLaw Jan 2022 #5
Absolutely I am. former9thward Jan 2022 #6
That doesn't mean UnderThisLaw Jan 2022 #7
I did not say they were. former9thward Jan 2022 #8
Your humility is admirable! dpibel Jan 2022 #9
It is not indicative of nothing but it has been several weeks. former9thward Jan 2022 #10

dpibel

(2,917 posts)
3. "If this WERE even remotely true..."
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 10:03 PM
Jan 2022

I realize the subjunctive is an endangered grammatical form. But you are, by your own representation, a highly educated individual, and should know better.

More to the point: That's nonsense. The subject line of the OP certainly overstates the case. But what is represented is inferences, based on experience.

It is, if I'm not mistaken, reported in legacy media sources that Trump's lawyers met with the Georgia prosecutor's people.

The media, to its credit, is not going to draw inferences from that fact. But the meeting is, I believe, an established fact.

Kirschner draws inferences based on his experience. The OP chooses a subject line (or quotes one) that overstates the case.

former9thward

(32,253 posts)
4. I have never represented myself as highly educated.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 10:14 PM
Jan 2022

My only F in school was in English in the 5th grade. One of the reasons I only do criminal law is that it has the least amount of paperwork of any law specialty. And criminal law judges love it when you are as brief as possible in your motions without adding even one word that is not necessary. However the main reason I do criminal law is that it is the only interesting field of law in my view.

former9thward

(32,253 posts)
6. Absolutely I am.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 10:28 PM
Jan 2022

The first job of any criminal defense attorney to ensure the Constitution, state and federal, is followed by the prosecutor, judges and any law enforcement personnel.

former9thward

(32,253 posts)
8. I did not say they were.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 10:34 PM
Jan 2022

In my profile I list the amendments which have the most to do with criminal law.

dpibel

(2,917 posts)
9. Your humility is admirable!
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 11:09 PM
Jan 2022

But, TBH, I think there may be people in the world--maybe even in this tiny discussion group corner of the world--who would consider a person's claim to be an attorney, a criminal-law specialist, and a constitutional scholar to boot to be a sort of claim of high education. Obvs., you do not think so.

But I'm glad that you don't disagree with the substance of my reply. Or did you overlook that part?

I mean, you're the criminal lawyer here. Is Kirschner wrong? Is a meeting between the prosecution and defense counsel pre-indictment indicative of nothing?

former9thward

(32,253 posts)
10. It is not indicative of nothing but it has been several weeks.
Wed Jan 12, 2022, 11:20 PM
Jan 2022

Normally if there is going to be charges they follow quickly after a meeting with any legal reps of the potential defendant. It is basically the last step in the process.

But we will see. I have been around this board long enough to read all sorts of predictions of charges against various people. Most never happened. But I am not making any predictions because I don't know what the evidence is and what law that a prosecutor may have mind.

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