Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:15 AM Oct 2012

The "big" news: Trump allegedly has divorce papers

Donald Trump is to claim that he has unearthed divorce papers of Michelle Obama and the President, according to a respected financial pundit with links to the tycoon.

. . .

The claims about divorce papers have previously been made in a book released earlier this year by author Ed Klein. The White House rubbished the allegations then and claimed Klein had a history of making things up.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222070/Donald-Trump-reveal-divorce-papers-Michelle-Barack-Obama--claims-respected-financial-pundit.html

Oh whoop-de-do. Even if there are any such papers, what long-term couple hasn't had some issues at one time. So. That's it?

33 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The "big" news: Trump allegedly has divorce papers (Original Post) ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 OP
Oh and bytheway.... ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #1
zippity doo dah! defacto7 Oct 2012 #2
Exactly. GOTV! n/t ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #4
There's one teensy-weensy little problem with Trump's plan Hugabear Oct 2012 #3
"This coming from the man who has been divorced how many times?" ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #5
Most of these rethug types have their own history of divorce Hugabear Oct 2012 #7
And openly cheated on his first wife vankuria Oct 2012 #29
trump is an idiot..... chillfactor Oct 2012 #6
If that's what he has, releasing them will backfire. pointsoflight Oct 2012 #8
and more than a few dads who are probably damn proud... Volaris Oct 2012 #26
Unless there's scandalous info in those papers, it may backfire... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #9
I agree I doubt that the Clinton's or McCain had poor oppo researchers. demgrrrll Oct 2012 #10
I think the only way the divorce papers could hurt the President justiceischeap Oct 2012 #20
I agree Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #33
really??!! This is it? there's been more than a few times when I wondered if I could do 8 to 10 Ecumenist Oct 2012 #10
No "allegedly" about it. We KNOW Trump has divorce papers... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #12
A cruel, nasty thing for their daughters to find out this way Freddie Oct 2012 #13
Divorce and bankruptcy are two things Trump knows best. nt Incitatus Oct 2012 #14
This will only make the Obamas more human to voters mainer Oct 2012 #15
This is his "BIG News?" Lilyeye Oct 2012 #16
We just have to hope there are no nasty details DHelix Oct 2012 #17
Ummmm..... didn't Ronald Reagan get an *actual* divorce? Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #18
Reagan, Trump, Newt... Frank Cannon Oct 2012 #22
AND.....we have a winner.... Volaris Oct 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Frank Cannon Oct 2012 #24
I'm just happy I'm not that animal on top of the assholes head madokie Oct 2012 #19
But oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #21
Trump is divorced from reality. n/t Ganja Ninja Oct 2012 #23
Hmmm... Erin_Petrovna Oct 2012 #25
So, anyone who has been married Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #27
I bet it will be something treated as 'breaking news' but is actually public knowledge ck4829 Oct 2012 #28
who cares what trump alleges spanone Oct 2012 #30
So will he show the world those papers which he has no legal right to have? lunatica Oct 2012 #31

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
3. There's one teensy-weensy little problem with Trump's plan
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:18 AM
Oct 2012

Barack and Michelle are still together.

Really, he thinks it's breaking news that they had a rough time over 10 years ago?

This coming from the man who has been divorced how many times?

ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
5. "This coming from the man who has been divorced how many times?"
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:19 AM
Oct 2012

Yep. Not only is he a moron, he's a freaking hypocrite. If this is it, I doubt anyone will give a crap - except the RWNJ's / Repubs - who won't vote for Obama anyway. Big deal.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
7. Most of these rethug types have their own history of divorce
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:23 AM
Oct 2012

Do they really want to open up that can of worms?

Because it can get really ugly for them, really fast.

pointsoflight

(1,372 posts)
8. If that's what he has, releasing them will backfire.
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:34 AM
Oct 2012

Sure, it'll get covered. But it's not going to turn people against the president. Who hasn't had rough times in their relationships? This would just make Obama seem more real. It'd also make Trump and any republicans who jump on board look really bad. Not cool to bring that out into the public when there are kids involved. It'd likely drum up sympathy for the kids, and would likely piss off a lot of moms.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
26. and more than a few dads who are probably damn proud...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:57 AM
Oct 2012

of the fact that they had similar situations in their past and got most of it worked out, on behalf of the wife and kids they love, and KNOW what kind of self-sacrifice is involved for all relavant parties.
If this is what Trump has, it's a can of gasoline. Let the dumb fucker set himself on fire, live in Primetime. Barack and Michelle will bring the girls to roast Marshmallows over the flames, and probably invite most of the WH staff and their kids to the campfire.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
9. Unless there's scandalous info in those papers, it may backfire...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:34 AM
Oct 2012

I know several couples who I consider to have the most solid and positive marriages I've ever run across, and every single one had a point where they were seriously considering splitting up, but decided the marriage was worth fighting for and repairing. I doubt any of them would find the news that Barack and Michelle went through a similar stage to make them anything but more sympathetic.

In fact, the only sort of person who might think otherwise would be a serial monogamist (and not much of a monogamist even then) like The Donald.

My only caveat would be if the papers revealed, say, that there was "another woman" involved at the time. But I find it hard to believe that, if Obama had his own "Gennifer Flowers" in his past, it wouldn't have come to light long before the final two weeks of his third race for national office in eight years.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
20. I think the only way the divorce papers could hurt the President
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:24 AM
Oct 2012

is if Michelle claimed domestic violence or mental abuse of some sort--something so heinous that would cause the "gender gap" to close.

That said, I don't see that happening. I don't see Michelle Obama staying with someone who harmed her physically or mentally. I think if Trump comes at the Obama's marriage, we'll see a very fired up First Lady.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
10. really??!! This is it? there's been more than a few times when I wondered if I could do 8 to 10
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:06 AM
Oct 2012

For manslaughter.... And Trump talking about the fact that ALMOST got divorced 12 YEARS AGO?? What isn't he on, like, his 15th child bride? Damn don't waste my time or your breath... Wow.. PATHETIC..

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
13. A cruel, nasty thing for their daughters to find out this way
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:36 AM
Oct 2012

If it's even true. Trump will end up looking even more of a jackass from that standpoint alone.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
15. This will only make the Obamas more human to voters
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:50 AM
Oct 2012

Because every married person under the sun will sympathize. And be impressed that they kept their marriage together despite that rough patch.

Lilyeye

(1,417 posts)
16. This is his "BIG News?"
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:05 AM
Oct 2012

I remember during the 08 election, Michelle spoke about going through a difficult period with the President. She said they worked through it and became even closer. So this is really not news besides the divorce part. Trump is such an asshole.

DHelix

(89 posts)
17. We just have to hope there are no nasty details
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:16 AM
Oct 2012

I agree with those who think that this will backfire on Trump and provide sympathy to the Obama family, assuming the documents don't get into too many specifics.

I don't know much about these kinds of documents but hopefully they go no further in describing problems than generic legal terms like "irreconsiable differences."

The less specifics the better obviously and the more people will be able to relate to the situation and their own problems. Both were lawyers so getting legal papers drawn up may not be as significant as it would be for others.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. Ummmm..... didn't Ronald Reagan get an *actual* divorce?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:19 AM
Oct 2012

This is going to backfire big time. Trump will look petty and vindictive and there will be tremendous sympathy for the Obamas.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
22. Reagan, Trump, Newt...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:27 AM
Oct 2012

All those Republican clowns go through wives like Chris Christie goes through cheeseburgers.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
32. AND.....we have a winner....
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:39 AM
Oct 2012

This the GOP trying like hell to paint the Democratic President with the GOP's own broad-brush;
That Party is STILL looking for a way to get vengeance for FAILING to impeach Clinton for marital infidelity, and then spending the next 10 years getting DESTROYED in the Public Eye by everyone who knows the definitions of the words Projection and Hypocrisy
It won't stick.

Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #18)

madokie

(51,076 posts)
19. I'm just happy I'm not that animal on top of the assholes head
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:20 AM
Oct 2012

What a real jackass the man or cretin, whichever it is, is

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
21. But
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:24 AM
Oct 2012

Obama and Michelle's marriage was arranged in order to hide Obama's gay love affairs. According to an email I received last night, that's what Trump will reveal as it is mentioned in the divorce papers. And I never question emails including the ones holding my money for me in a Nigerian bank account.

 

Erin_Petrovna

(13 posts)
25. Hmmm...
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:13 AM
Oct 2012

Hate The Donald, but if he has actual proof that papers were filed and the administration rubbished this, then Obama may have some 'splaining to do. It should be a total non-issue, and I'm assuming this is made-up bs, because I can't think that Obama would state categorically that the story was a lie if they knew that there were papers floating about that could prove the contrary.

So I think that people would identify with marital strife. But if this somehow turns out to be accurate, there might be some who won't be impressed that the administration was untruthful about it.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
27. So, anyone who has been married
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:59 AM
Oct 2012

for over 45 minutes has thought about divorce. May not actually go as far as filing the papers but, as others have pointed out, ALL and I mean ALL marriages have gone through rough patches. If someone claims theirs hasn't, they're lying or suppressing/ignoring issues.

I think most people's responses will be along the lines of, "And how many times has Trump been married?" The Obamas seem to have a real marriage wherein the Donald is only interested in the trophy wife. One gets too old he just goes out and gets another one. (Like these women would hook up with him if he were living on SS in a trailer park in Barstow.)

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
28. I bet it will be something treated as 'breaking news' but is actually public knowledge
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:00 AM
Oct 2012

Not unlike that video Fox News released a couple of weeks ago and said it was news, but they showed that same exact video two years previously.

Birthers are like that.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
31. So will he show the world those papers which he has no legal right to have?
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:22 AM
Oct 2012

I recall something or other about him having Obama's birth certificate or some such idiocy.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The "big" news:...