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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:11 AM Oct 2012

AWESOME! GOP Super PACs reveal they've bailed on Romney (spending on Congress)

The Conservative Super PACs are on the verge of a divisive implosion!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82613.html?hp=t1

In-fighting between PACs shows they vying for who will be correct: those who hedging their bets and are bailing on Romney to give money to house races vs. those who are focusing on Romney. There is movement here for one PAC to become the predominant conservative Super PAC. This may be the beginning of a serious case of backfire of Citizens United. Be careful what you wish for GOP!

Playing to donors, GOP groups spill some secrets

Even Americans for Prosperity, the main political group of the billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch (once regarded as the most secretive of secret spenders), has opened up about its spending, instructing its press shop to provide reporters with details about its $72 million worth of ad buys.

The reason is clear: Conservative super PACs and outside groups face the very real possibility they’ll have spent $1 billion and failed to elect Mitt Romney or deliver a GOP Senate.

That means professional political types could have a lot of explaining to do, especially to the rich donors who financed the record spending spree and are wondering if their investment was squandered.

So the operatives running the superPACs and nonprofits are scrambling to prove they made a difference in any way they can. They’re positioning themselves to claim credit for successes, dodge blame for failures and prove that they’re not one-trick ponies that can only do narrowly targeted advertising.

Karl Rove’s Crossroads outfit, which mostly focused on television ads boosting Romney and GOP Senate candidates, has been branching out into House races and get-out-the-vote activity, working with Ralph Reed’s newly robust evangelical mobilization group Faith and Freedom Coalition.


There is much more delicious GOP implosion in slow-motion at the link.
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AWESOME! GOP Super PACs reveal they've bailed on Romney (spending on Congress) (Original Post) berni_mccoy Oct 2012 OP
Of course that's not such good news for the congress races. mucifer Oct 2012 #1
It doesn't mean that they would necessarily be any more successful than they have been pushing Mitt! Lucinda Oct 2012 #4
Yes, I don't disagree, but I think it's too late. They've been throwing everything they've had at berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #6
I agree. This family and many others, has already voted. Nothing Kkkarl can do will change that. OffWithTheirHeads Oct 2012 #8
especially since many many people have already voted central scrutinizer Oct 2012 #24
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #2
LOL! I like the way this sounds! nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #3
I would rather have them waste their money on Romney than effectively use it down stream on Congress 1-Old-Man Oct 2012 #5
People are ignoring the ads now. Notice Rove is moving to other things. BlueStreak Oct 2012 #15
I wonder if they are shifting from Ryan for VP to Ryan for Congress? nt postulater Oct 2012 #7
The Democratic Party should be putting a lot of money into his opponent back home 1-Old-Man Oct 2012 #10
Ryan is being dumped anyway. Panasonic Oct 2012 #11
The best part? All part of Citizens United decision, and that's what is bankrupting the Rethuglicans Panasonic Oct 2012 #9
Why The Polls Seems To Be Moving In The Rushpublican's Favor... KharmaTrain Oct 2012 #12
They're hearing that giant sucking sound. tanyev Oct 2012 #13
Karl Rove is first and foremost a Bush loyalist rbrnmw Oct 2012 #14
Well this sure ain't bailing cali Oct 2012 #16
Read the article in the OP. Restore Our Future is Romney's Super PAC berni_mccoy Oct 2012 #17
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't abandon Mittnit!! librechik Oct 2012 #18
I've said it before; I'll say it again. Blanks Oct 2012 #19
We don't have a DVR nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #20
I did. Blanks Oct 2012 #21
As a local political reporter I have to pay far more attention to them than you do nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #22
I don't envy you. Blanks Oct 2012 #23

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
4. It doesn't mean that they would necessarily be any more successful than they have been pushing Mitt!
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:19 AM
Oct 2012

But I do understand what you are saying.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
6. Yes, I don't disagree, but I think it's too late. They've been throwing everything they've had at
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:20 AM
Oct 2012

The Romney Albatross that is now sinking their downstream races. They don't have time to undo that damage which they themselves have funded.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
5. I would rather have them waste their money on Romney than effectively use it down stream on Congress
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:19 AM
Oct 2012

I don't want them to have any money left to support House and Senate races down ticket.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
10. The Democratic Party should be putting a lot of money into his opponent back home
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:37 AM
Oct 2012

Get his sorry ass out of the House because it sure ain't going to the White House.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
11. Ryan is being dumped anyway.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:38 AM
Oct 2012

Now that he revealed how much of an ass he is to Janesville, WI.

Zerban will be a fine Congressman. And a part of the new Democratic takeover of the House after removing stupid 'baggers in 2012.

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
9. The best part? All part of Citizens United decision, and that's what is bankrupting the Rethuglicans
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:37 AM
Oct 2012

So, a lot of pressure on the Rethuglican end of the Supreme Court to accept ANY challenges to CU and overturn CU ASAP.

Not from us, but from the Rethuglicans who thought up the stupid law.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
12. Why The Polls Seems To Be Moving In The Rushpublican's Favor...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:49 AM
Oct 2012

First...a disclaimer...let's see how the 3 days work through over the weekend...hopefully President Obama's numbers will rebound. Nonetheless...one big factor going on that is not being discussed when we look at the President's numbers and those in other races...it's that massive amount of SuperPac spending that is flooding airwaves and, in some cases, doing groundwork for various endangered rushpublican candidates. For some like the Kochs, the focus has always been on the state level but there a bunch of big money Willard donors who surely have to be feeling like they're not getting the bang for their buck they were hoping for. But then many live in the same bubble that Willard and the great unhinged do...convinced they are winning and maybe letting them slip into a bit of blissful complacency wouldn't be such a bad thing.

The real implosion starts once the votes are counted...how bad things are and who won and who lost. The bottom line is sooner rather than later there will be a big blame game and Willard will be the fall guy but others will go with him...our fun will be to see who gets thrown under the bus and who tries to ride above to pick up the pieces. Right now there are elections to win...the best way to make the implosion happen.

Cheers...

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
14. Karl Rove is first and foremost a Bush loyalist
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:56 AM
Oct 2012

If Jeb wants a shot at 2016 which politically would be his best chance they all know the POTUS is very popular that's why Karl Rove allowed Mitt the loser to be nominated in my opinion Jeb is more charismatic and way more likable than Mitten's and after 2 failed GOP runs will be refreshing to the R voters. Karl Rove never intended to help Mitt Romney he's all in for a 2016 run for Jeb Bush

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. Well this sure ain't bailing
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:01 AM
Oct 2012

Pro-Romney group to spend $12M on swing-state ads


9:26AM EDT October 19. 2012 - If you live in a swing state such as Colorado or Virginia, get ready for more presidential campaign ads with a pro-Mitt Romney message.

Restore Our Future, the super PAC supporting the GOP nominee, is spending $12 million on ads that will reportedly blanket the airwaves in nine states, with all but one being a battleground. The New York Times reports the buy is the group's "most aggressive and expensive push yet" in the campaign's ad wars.

The ads will run in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Nevada, North Carolina, Virginia and Wisconsin -- all swing states -- plus Michigan, a firm that tracks political advertising told The Times.

snip

http://www.usatoday.com/story/onpolitics/2012/10/19/romney-super-pac-ads-swing-states/1643623/

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
17. Read the article in the OP. Restore Our Future is Romney's Super PAC
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:29 AM
Oct 2012

Of course, they aren't going to bail. But Koch and Rove are hedging their bets.

The Super PACs are competing for donors and Koch/Rove don't want to go down with the Romney ship. ROF is hoping Koch/Rove are wrong so they can yank the donors from them. They are dividing their efforts, not coordinating.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
18. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't abandon Mittnit!!
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 10:33 AM
Oct 2012

what difference do downticket candidates make? FORGET THEM,
Greedy Obnoxious Prick SuperPacs!!!!

Concentrate on your Chosen One!!! He needs your haaaaalp!

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
19. I've said it before; I'll say it again.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

People aren't watching the ads. I haven't seen a single political advertisement on TV this year. I don't watch the networks very often because I have Netflix and Hulu+.

Even before I got rid of dish I recorded programs (even football games; with two channels I could pause one game and watch the other and fast forward through all commercials).

I realize not everyone is like me, but I just don't think we have the 'viewing habits' that they are marketing to. Who doesn't have some form of DVR?

I think TV ads are a waste of money. If folks aren't sitting in front of Fox News, listening to hate radio, or reading theblaze.com; the republicans aren't reaching them.

The president has the right idea; be a guest on 'the View', the Daily Show, Letterman etc. People watch the shows; they skip the commercials.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
21. I did.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:25 PM
Oct 2012

I also think that those most likely to vote for democrats are less likely to have a DVR.

And I don't know about you, but the conservatives aren't going to make a commercial that would inspire me to vote for a single republican. That's another factor that works against the big money republican PACs. They're marketing to a 'decided' audience.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. As a local political reporter I have to pay far more attention to them than you do
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:31 PM
Oct 2012

I also get crap from everybody, since I am registered independent.

I am also very careful, and have succeeded, to keep my political views from those I interview. So yes, I will inteview a far right candidate today, and a hard left (we have them) candidate tomorrow.

Like most reporters, the most important question is... "yeah, but."

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
23. I don't envy you.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:50 PM
Oct 2012

I don't even like all of the commercials that the candidates that I like produce.

In 2000 and 2002; Mike Ross was running against an old school republican (I forget his name). I swear one or the other had a commercial on during every program.

I have no idea who is even advertising right now. It's not like you actually get any facts from commercials.

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