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niyad

(113,302 posts)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:43 AM Oct 2012

"top 10 ways to get away with rape" flier found in dorm


“Top 10 Ways to Get Away With Rape” Flier Found in Dorm


After a flier listing the “Top Ten Ways To Get Away With Rape” was found in a men’s bathroom in a co-ed dormitory at Miami University of Ohio, did the university notify all students about a frankly disturbing incident?
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This is frankly ugly stuff. So it is all the more disappointing to learn that Miami University officials dragged their feet to respond. Barbara Jones, Miami University’s vice president for student affairs, said in USA Today that no campus-wide alert was at first sent out because they did not think the flyer contained an immediate threat. “All of our evidence shows it was confined strictly to McBride Hall,” Jones says, referring to the dormitory in which the flyer was found.
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Of course. But the fact that someone thought it was all right to post a flyer containing language so violent and demeaning towards women more than suggests that at least some members of Miami University’s community think that it is all right to say and think such things. It suggests that there is a culture on the campus that tacitly condones misogynistic attitudes.

As Kate Van Fossen, a junior at the university who is the vice president of Women Against Violence and Sexual Assault (WAVE), says in the Cincinnati Enquirer, “It could have been a joke, but the fact of the matter is that those thoughts are crossing someone’s mind. There are girls living in a hall where someone came up with that. It’s just disturbing.” Indeed, Van Fossen also said that, had she not been a member of WAVE, she would not have learned about the incident. The university erred in not alerting all students, not to mention faculty and staff across the campus, and thereby sent the message that such remarks and behavior are allowed and tolerated.
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"top 10 ways to get away with rape" flier found in dorm (Original Post) niyad Oct 2012 OP
a coed dorm. of course, you might have to slit the girls throat to keep her quiet. seabeyond Oct 2012 #1
Isn't that where Lyin Ryan went? geardaddy Oct 2012 #2
YES, man u got a good memory, I never heard of Miami Ohio.......... kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #3
Yes, also Maria Cantwell, Donna Shalala, Tina Louise (Ginger from Gilligan's Island) hughee99 Oct 2012 #6
There was a study some time ago saying 35% of college-age men... Odin2005 Oct 2012 #4
My belief, is that only 35% admitted it. n/t ronnie624 Oct 2012 #7
yes, I remember seeing something closer to 60 or 70 percent several years ago. niyad Oct 2012 #11
So upwards of 70% of men are rapists 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #14
wow, nice way to try and twist things, as usual. I simply said what the study had said. niyad Oct 2012 #16
So . . . how many men do *you* think are rapists? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #17
Tell me again how much progress we've made in battling misogyny. Brigid Oct 2012 #5
yup. but, much better to ignore than we do not have to address a very serious issue. nt seabeyond Oct 2012 #9
Howard Stern makes jokes about rape... redqueen Oct 2012 #8
the fact that anybody is saying "well, it is probably just a joke" is beyond sickening. there is niyad Oct 2012 #10
hmm, since this is lyin' ryan's alma mater, has anybody asked him to comment? niyad Oct 2012 #12
And again the PC police are trying to ban perfectly harmless, constitutionally protected free speech KamaAina Oct 2012 #13
This is clearly the work of a large group of people 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #15
#3: Vote Romney/Ryan n/t Earth_First Oct 2012 #18
In a survey of male college students: ronnie624 Oct 2012 #19
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. a coed dorm. of course, you might have to slit the girls throat to keep her quiet.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:50 AM
Oct 2012

yes. lovely. along with amherst college.

Imagine a drawing of a woman. She’s clad only in a bra and a thong. She’s got bruises on her side. There’s an apple jammed in her mouth. And she’s stretched out, tied up, suspended from a spit, and roasting over a fire.

The administration opted not to punish the individual students responsible for the shirt but rather to hold an unadvertised, effectively closed-door discussion with a handful of students and frat members. According to a friend of mine who was present, the boys-will-be-boys type comments made prior to the meeting (“We were just a bunch of drunk guys sitting around on a Friday night designing the shirt”) were replaced by apology (“We didn’t mean to offend anyone”)—and then some confusion and discussion over the real impact of the offensive “joke.”

...

But many more of us are to blame. Everyone who knew about that shirt—regardless of if they bought it, wore it, praised it, or privately condemned it—is at fault. Hundreds of us saw or heard about it and did nothing. We didn’t speak up. We didn’t write about it. We didn’t demand justice or discussion. If we were outraged—and I’m sure many of us were—we didn’t voice it.

Had the t-shirt depicted a pig roasting an African American (or a Jew or a Native American), I believe the students responsible would have faced punishment. At the very least, there would have been public outrage. Articles would have flooded The Student and The Indicator. It might even have made national news.

http://acvoice.com/2012/10/08/amherst-college-roasting-fat-ones-since-1847/comment-page-1/#comment-1871




just a joke. really.
 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
3. YES, man u got a good memory, I never heard of Miami Ohio..........
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:03 PM
Oct 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan#Early_life_and_education

Ryan majored in economics and political science at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio,[25] where he became interested in the writings of Friedrich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman.[6] He often visited the office of libertarian professor Richard Hart to discuss the theories of these economists and of Ayn Rand.[6][26] Hart introduced Ryan to the National Review,[6] and with Hart's recommendation Ryan began an internship in the D.C. office of Wisconsin Senator Bob Kasten where he worked with Kasten's foreign affairs adviser.[6][27] Ryan also attended the Washington Semester program at American University.[28] Ryan worked summers as a salesman for Oscar Mayer and once got to drive the Wienermobile.[16][26][29] During college, Ryan was a member of the College Republicans,[30] and volunteered for the congressional campaign of John Boehner.[26] He was a member of the Delta Tau Delta social fraternity.[31] Ryan received a B.A. in 1992 with a double major in economics and political science.[25]

Hey he's a boner boy too, who would have guessed.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
6. Yes, also Maria Cantwell, Donna Shalala, Tina Louise (Ginger from Gilligan's Island)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:13 PM
Oct 2012

Bill Sammon and Bill Hemmer from Faux News, Mojo Nixon and Benjamin Harrison.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
4. There was a study some time ago saying 35% of college-age men...
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

...would have no problem raping someone if they could get away with it.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
14. So upwards of 70% of men are rapists
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 06:06 PM
Oct 2012

and are only prevented from raping by fear of being caught?

What a bleak view of the human race you have.

niyad

(113,302 posts)
16. wow, nice way to try and twist things, as usual. I simply said what the study had said.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 06:11 PM
Oct 2012

I did NOT say that 70 percent are rapists, so quit putting words in my post.

and, a bleak view? nah, given the actual statistics on sexual violence around the world, I am little mary sunshine.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
17. So . . . how many men do *you* think are rapists?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 06:14 PM
Oct 2012

But are prevented from acting on it from fear of incarceration?

niyad

(113,302 posts)
10. the fact that anybody is saying "well, it is probably just a joke" is beyond sickening. there is
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 05:55 PM
Oct 2012

not, never has been, never will be, anything funny about rape.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
13. And again the PC police are trying to ban perfectly harmless, constitutionally protected free speech
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 06:02 PM
Oct 2012
 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
15. This is clearly the work of a large group of people
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 06:09 PM
Oct 2012

don't let the women hating nutjobs claim otherwise.

I can tell this paper was the work of at least 40-50% of the male student body. A single person clearly couldn't print out a piece of paper like this.

So rather than assuming this is one sick person we should, wisely, push the idea that this is some sort of horrific trend that is affecting all men and needs to be addressed by going after all men. Reacting calmly and waiting for the facts to come out is overreacting!

Also:

Women = W
Against = A
Violence = V
and =
Sexual Assault = E?

Whatever. Proper acronyms are just one way the patriarchy keeps women in their place.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
19. In a survey of male college students:
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:47 AM
Oct 2012

- 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it
- One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape
- 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape
- 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse
- 15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape, and of these 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.

http://www.dps.siu.edu/cp_sexual_assault.htm

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