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Anyone know what is the Havana Syndrome Joe clueless is discussing with Adam clueless? (Original Post) akbacchus_BC May 2021 OP
. RegularJam May 2021 #1
Thanks for the link. Every crap is always blamed on other countries!! akbacchus_BC May 2021 #2
Apparently the Russians are aiming microwave devices at U.S. diplomats and political staffers. yardwork May 2021 #5
This is something that came out in the newspapers a while back. secondwind May 2021 #3
First time hearing about it. I just dont understand why it is a 'syndrome' from another country. NT akbacchus_BC May 2021 #4
Mysterious illnesses if American govt workers JT45242 May 2021 #6
Then America needs to stop its invasion in Cuba, and Americans will not get sick!! akbacchus_BC May 2021 #10
Pesticide poisoning was listed as another possibility womanofthehills May 2021 #18
I'm clueless. pwb May 2021 #7
Me too. First time I heard that crap by Joe Clueless! akbacchus_BC May 2021 #11
It's been in the newspapers on and off for years. lark May 2021 #14
I have no idea what the thread is about greenjar_01 May 2021 #17
The Cubans ? We're Shooting microwaves at government officials heads. flying_wahini May 2021 #8
US officials have linked some of these attacks to the GRU n/t Quakerfriend May 2021 #9
What's the GRU? akbacchus_BC May 2021 #13
You've heard of the CIA and the KGB I'm sure FakeNoose May 2021 #16
LOL, as if the Cubans give a rat's ass about America. They have survived for decades ... akbacchus_BC May 2021 #12
AKA The Immaculate Concussion stillcool May 2021 #15

yardwork

(61,711 posts)
5. Apparently the Russians are aiming microwave devices at U.S. diplomats and political staffers.
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:13 AM
May 2021

Read up on it.

JT45242

(2,295 posts)
6. Mysterious illnesses if American govt workers
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:13 AM
May 2021

First seen in Havana. Government workers at the Havana embassy had a bunch of unexplained illnesses.

Lots of speculation that it could be a weapon, perhaps a sonic weapon or some other weird weapon. Has occurred at a few other places.

No one is sure who is behind it or how it works (at least officially). Has happened at a few other places and happened on US soil recently.

lark

(23,156 posts)
14. It's been in the newspapers on and off for years.
Mon May 24, 2021, 11:05 AM
May 2021

I just haven't read about it lately until now when it's coming out that this is happening in DC too. WTF, Ruskies, stop the shit.

flying_wahini

(6,651 posts)
8. The Cubans ? We're Shooting microwaves at government officials heads.
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:20 AM
May 2021

Causes a myriad of symptoms. (A syndrome)

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
16. You've heard of the CIA and the KGB I'm sure
Mon May 24, 2021, 12:08 PM
May 2021

The GRU is the current version of the KGB. It's the Russian spy organization and they think they're still fighting in the Cold War.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
12. LOL, as if the Cubans give a rat's ass about America. They have survived for decades ...
Mon May 24, 2021, 08:37 AM
May 2021

and will continue to survive. Do not care for America embargo on Cuba, America has become inadequate since January 6. No other country in the world raped their place of law and killed and attacked cops. The rethugs claiming the insurrectionists look like tourists, since when tourists attack a sacred place of law and order, scaled walls and desecrated the building?

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
15. AKA The Immaculate Concussion
Mon May 24, 2021, 11:51 AM
May 2021

Good article in GQ
https://www.gq.com/story/cia-investigation-and-russian-microwave-attacks


The Mystery of the Immaculate Concussion

BY JULIA IOFFE
October 19, 2020
Some of the two dozen Americans affected in Havana had been CIA officers under diplomatic cover. Though these apparent attacks baffled officials at the Agency, there was growing suspicion inside CIA headquarters, according to two sources familiar with the discussions, that these attacks had been the work of Russian security services. It was not a wild stretch, and many in Washington’s foreign policy and national security universe were thinking along the same lines. Since 2014, the Russians had become increasingly brazen in going after the U.S. and its allies, and they had every reason to peel their old Cuban allies away from the Americans’ embrace. “These guys have been told they can take the gloves off and do whatever they want to hurt Americans,” says a former national security official. “They’re trying to weaken us generally, and they’ve obviously taken the gloves off quite some time ago.

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The notion of weaponizing microwaves dates back to the Cold War, when, in 1961, an American biologist named Allan Frey discovered that irradiating a human head with microwaves could produce the sensation of sound—even in deaf ears, even from thousands of feet away. Playing with the frequency and intensity of the microwave beam could produce a range of different sensations in a person. In 2018, Frey told the New York Times that the Soviets took immediate notice of his work and flew him to Moscow, where they squired him around secret military facilities and asked him to give lectures about the effects of microwaves on the brain.

As the Cold War progressed, both the United States and the Soviet Union raced to find military uses for what came to be called directed energy weapons. American researchers had studied things like beaming words into subjects’ heads—great for psychological warfare—while also researching the thermal aspects of microwaves. Packaged in the right way, researchers theorized, a microwave weapon could be mounted on a truck, where it could cast a beam outward to create an invisible barrier anywhere, anytime, capable of immobilizing any person who got within its range. This research ultimately culminated in the development of a weapon the Pentagon calls an Active Denial System, or ADS. In a video touting its capabilities, the U.S. military boasts that this highly portable weapon can be attached to a military vehicle and used to direct precise beams of electromagnetic radiation at, say, an armed militant in a crowd or a suspicious person approaching a military checkpoint. The beam would instantaneously produce a sensation of heat on the skin, which would trigger a person’s reflex to flee. (This summer, a military official inquired about deploying the technology against American protesters who flooded into the streets of Washington, D.C., to protest police brutality.)
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By now, this was no longer a novel occurrence, and CIA people had come to call it “getting hit.” One senior intelligence officer in EEMC, the Center Polymeropoulos used to run, had gotten hit twice while traveling under cover, first in Poland in the spring of 2019, then again in Tbilisi, Georgia, that fall. He, too, was diagnosed with occipital neuralgia and experienced symptoms similar to Polymeropoulos’s. (He declined to be interviewed for this article.)


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