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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI dunno know about anyone else here, but I fully expect Ryan's youth and vigor to prove
too much for Old Joe to take. All that P90X. He's *got* this. In fact, if Ryan doesn't CINCH this thing tonight, it clearly shows the GOP is in disarray. There's NO WAY Paul can lose this.
I expect that Ryan will win this HANDILY. I think Ryan will talk about his budget the same way he talks about his marathon time, and his mountain climbing, and they will declare him a winner. In fact, if he doesn't show he can HANDILY defeat JOE BIDEN, he is showing he CLEARLY unfit for office. *ANY* office.
#dontletthemmakeourexpectationstoohighbecausethentheywinandyouknowit
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Kber
(5,043 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)anything less than that shows the entire GOP is in disarray.
ALL of them, even downticket.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Unlike Romney, who doesn't appear to believe anything, Ryan BELIEVES his own press. He really does think he is the economic genius boy wonder of the Republican party. I think he will be earnestly and sincerely batshit nuts. I am hoping that people recognize the crazy when they see it.
speedoo
(11,229 posts)Your act is getting very old.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)april
(1,148 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)it is clear the GOP is in disarray
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)I think deception and abuse of office should completely disqualify him
tblue
(16,350 posts)this was intended tongue in cheek.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)and then climbed *EVERY* mountain.
I expect a CLEAR, leave Biden on the floor cryin' for his Mommy win.
Anything LESS than that shows Romney has lost the hearts and minds of his base.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Ryan should lock this all up tonight and have us all crying in our cheerios tomorrow.
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Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)renie408
(9,854 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)So, we have cable news, a ratings driven industry, and every other for profit source out there to some extent, constantly creating fake controversy. If they didn't they'd have no meat. When they do they sway the very core of our countries political system. But hey, they're making ratings and racking in the dough. What else matters?
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)side and 'a MUST WIN', a 'if Biden doesn't win it will never stop their momentum and all is lost' for ours.
It's bullshit. We should be playing the hand we're dealt instead of sticking our heads in the sand and just not watching.
That is how they win. That is how Al Gore 'said he invented the internet'. (aside: no he didn't) That is how Dean's scream gets done. It's bullshit.
We need to play the hand we're dealt and relentlessly.
If Paul Ryan doesn't win this debate HANDS DOWN, it will be clear that the GOP is in disarray.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)First of all, you're 100% correct. Hands down, no argument in the right of it.
Now, what do we do about it? Don't say "the Democratic party/surrogates need to debunk this, because they do. And the are ignored because that's not what "sells papers" in this day and age.
I think we should boycott the asinine media (and i use that term lightly) sources which spread this propaganda BS. Unsubscribe, turn them off, and send them letters letting them know why they're now dead to us. Then we send letters to their sponsors explaining the same. Instead we keep watching/reading them and literally begging them for fairness. Guess what? It doesn't work. They need us, our viewership, our money to their sponsors a lot more than we need them. Hell, we need a hole in the head more than we need them!
So, what's the solution in your opinion?
tblue
(16,350 posts)He is young and strong and expectations should be shy high. Anything less and he's toast, finished, shrinkled up, flaccid, vaporized, and melted like a wet Wicked Witch of the West. As for Biden, huge handicap. If he stays on his feet and doesn't drool, he wins.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)He should be able to do this with no trouble whatsoever.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Really showed the importance of being older/wiser over younger/dumber.
Sir Stanley went to the Wings. Oh Snap!
Julie
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Guess I was wrong. Wow!
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)and Paul Ryan is running a two hour marathon right now...just for practice.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)And humming the Rocky theme song!
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)I think he *is* the EYE OF THE TIGER, and scaling Mt. Kilimanjaro for laffs before he even shows up.
If he doesn't win HANDILY, it is clear he is unfit for office.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Of course, if we can gain anything against this near god like like example of the GOP, then it's clear he's unfit for office!
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)teach us a thing or two about modern debate. With the formidable momentum of last week's debate, there is NO WAY, old Joe Biden, elderly, gaffe prone old geezer stands a chance against Mr. Wonderful.
Why if I see anything less than that, I will be shocked, and honestly, it should cause everyone to question whether or the GOP is fit for any office.
ANY. office.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)**AND** somehow make up for Romney lying his ass off'" or it is a clear depiction of the impending doom of the Democratic Party.
And many here are PLAYING RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT INTO THAT MEME
*MANY*
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)as I missed it.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)eviscerate Paul Ryan at the same time, without sounding too mean, mind you, and Congressman Ryan has to "not be Sarah Palin", and OUR OWN SIDE is playing RIGHT into that shit.
FUCK THAT.
I fully expect Paul Ryan's manly physique to win the day over little ole "Bumbling Joe" and I don't give a rat's ass who knows it.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Will probably not fair too well in tonite's debate.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Biden's got far more experience, he's not afraid to throw punches, and he's probably the smartest man in Washington. He's been doing debates for longer than many of us have been alive, and he shows no signs of age slowing him down.
And after that first debate between Rmoney and Obama, I expect there's very little in the way of social norms that would hold him back from really ripping into Ryan.
easttexaslefty
(1,554 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Biden stands a chance.
If Paul Ryan can't win this debate HANDS DOWN, it is clear Congressman Ryan is unfot for office.
ANY office.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Ryan is unfit for any kind of office except for, in a hypothetical Romney administration - the newly created Department of Fibs, Half-Truths and Outright Slander.