This fucking election best better fucking work out in our favor...

[PCIntern]

or I am going to spend the next four fucking years streaming Netflix movies and drinking heavily on weekends, so I don't have to think about where the fucking country is fucking going.

I never thought I could get this fucking upset at my fellow fucking Americans, but What The Fuck is wrong with these fucking morons? These fucking bastards led us into a ditch, pulled out the wires on the distributor cap, and left us for dead. And NOW these dumb-fucks are trying to put them back into the fucking driver's seat?

(If you think I'm upset, lemme tell you that I curbed my language to write this post, that's how upset I am. And don't tell me that I have to 'vote'. I fucking know that.)

[Whisp]

1. it's truly bizarre and confounding. n/t

[pokerfan]

69. no one cares

[Whisp]

76. what the fuck are you doing/saying?

[Mira]

96. This is weirding me out. And I was already pretty weird. Yikes. n/t

[Cha]

116. Only the Very Very Ignorant think there's no

difference between mitt and President Obama.

[happerbolic]

129. I suppose the occasional chuckle is not allowed...

...in here without the secret clubhouse handshake?

[Kurovski]

134. Voting is important. Period.

Even if it were only the right to choose that was being protected. But there is much, much more than that.

Only Republicans win when voters stay home.

[Cha]

140. True stuff in Funny... your stupid morph wasn't

fucking funny.

[freshwest]

145. It was a very transparent 'both parties are alike' and the subtext read 'don't vote.' Thanks, MIRT!

[Cha]

153. See I didn't even read the small print.. I just

saw that Stupid mitt shit around my President and knew it wasn't cool.

[Iggo]

120. On a side note...

...I'd pay Barack much dollars if he'd wear his hair like that.

[Kurovski]

135. He looks like my freshman year math teacher, Mr. Banderas!

Whom I'm sure you all recall.

[get the red out]

2. I'm right there with you

I don't drink, but I'm right with you on being pissed, and the language. There are just a gigantic number of complete idiots in this country and I'm tired of people suffering because of that. And they could make people suffer yet again.

[VWolf]

3. I'm pretty fucking disappointed

in our fucking fellow Americans as well.

But I think Obama will fucking pull through.

[Shrike47]

4. Didn't you mean in our FUCKING favor?

[PCIntern]

24. I thought about that but I didn't want to put too many 'fucks' in the subject line...

it would reduce the 'literary value' of the post.

[Codeine]

124. You can never fucking have too many fucking fucks in the fucking subject line.

Best fuckin believe.

[H2O Man]

5. I've been reading

some of the books from the C. Jung section of my library, as it seems evident that there is some massive disorder that Willard Romney is even considered as a possibility for the presidency.

And, of course, I'm also investing in the 2012 campaigns.

Recommended.

[HangOnKids]

28. Pat, is it TV that has ruined the minds of many?

I can't think of any other tool that has been used so effectively to get people confused and to hype consent. I know radio plays a part but not nearly as large as TV. I am not talking about TV news per se but all the shows that are just poison to the mind. Just curious to how you see this trend.

[HangOnKids]

67. Sorry That Is Not What I Asked Pat

I was specifically talking about TV influence, and I was asking him. Thanks anyway. Oh and that would be NO not KNOW.

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. In that case

goodbye, won't bother with a conversation.

weird reaction

[Fawke Em]

71. When I worked as a reporter for a newspaper, I'd constantly be asked,

"Why don't you guys run any GOOD news?"

I would respond, "Um... yeah, well, we do. Everyday. There's always a good news feature with a full color picture on the front page, but your comment makes me question whether it's a waste of time. No one ever reads the good news or even realizes it's there."

[nadinbrzezinski]

72. Yup

but the person i responded to did not want that conversation. It is puzzling, to be frank, but part of the collective zeitgeist, not just tv

[H2O Man]

105. I think it

has played a major role in creating the confusion, by spreading misinformation, disinformation, and purposeful outright lies. Day in and day out, television mixes these with small pieces of fact and even smaller grains of truth.

And of course, television is a passive form of "entertainment." I say that as someone who does watch television, and generally for entertainment purposes. There has rarely been a significant amount of "breaking news," for example, that one learns more about, almost immediately, due to television coverage.

To rehash a point that I've focused on here on DU many times, if one removed television and radio, turned off the bright, colorful lights and the loud music, tossed out the cell-phones and internet, hid the booze and other drugs, there would not only be a massive reduction in the loud laughter and excitement of our culture ..... there would be millions of people who would be lost, scared, and depressed. They would not have a clue. The very idea of reading books, much less the concept of the Power of Ideas, is lost to them. And those behind the curtain -- the very people who, by no coincidence, selected Willard Romney as the republican party's nominee, despite the widespread disapproval and contempt that even republicans hold him in -- find it much easier to deal with merry bands of fools, than with a single, solitary conscious person. They are capitalizing upon the ignorance and sheer stupidity of the masses.

I must say, however, that I remain an optimist. For as Holderlain said:

"Danger itself
Fosters the rescueing power."

[HangOnKids]

119. Thanks!

Your optimism makes me happy. I'm cynically optimistic myself.

[MrsCorleone]

154. SuperPac American Crossroads is putting its largest percentage of funds into Internet forums, blogs,

media, etc., according to Rove (caught this on C-Span). I think it's fair to say that a lot of other S-PACs are doing the same.

Of course, television/radio have been dumbing down the masses quite effectively for a long time, but TV and radio are reaching a shrinking demographic (still significant but dwindling) since there's been a huge shift to online content.

Expect to see more confusion and targeted misinformation online as the Internet becomes more and more saturated with rightwing BS.

I know that your question was directed to Pat but thought I'd jump in.

[RagAss]

57. Yes...a collective unconscious drive toward self-elimination.

We are in the wrong place at the wrong time in history.

[LiberalLoner]

65. I agree completely. I am seeing

Utter insanity among right wingers I know. All of them in my family have attempted suicide, some many times, and some are drinking themselves to death currently. I really do think the r's are a suicide cult of sorts.

[driver8]

6. I agree with you 100%!!

How anyone in their right mind could vote for the idiots that continue to fuck us over is beyond me...

[lpbk2713]

7. BushCo drove the country into the ditch.

And now the other side is pissing and moaning because Obama hasn't repaired all their damage yet.
This in spite of their obstructionism and their pledge to make Obama a one term President.

I couldn't agree with you more.

[LondonReign2]

19. Obama really needs to say that, loud and clear

n/t

[LongTomH]

41. He's been TRYING.....

.....the other side is burying him under a landslide of bullshit!

[MicaelS]

8. If it doesn't fucking work out in our favor, then maybe..

You should instead spend the next four fucking years just fucking. As in, as many orgasms as it's possible for one human to have in a four year period. Since you're a medical person, maybe you could write a paper, and it get it published in a journal.

That would really add to the fucking fount of human fucking knowledge, doncha fucking know.

[PCIntern]

11. You're gonna have to talk to Mrs. intern about this...

I for one, am all for it...I'm not sure how this is gonna play out at home, however...

[MicaelS]

15. Yeah, right...

I'm just an anonymous name on the 'tubes, you're the doctor, Doctor. If you can't figure how to get the missus to play doctor, then you need to see another doctor, Doctor.

[Greybnk48]

9. Fuckin' A, PC, Fuckin' A n/t

[freshwest]

146. And fuckity, fuck that fuckwit Mitt.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

10. Repost (w/edit): What I think has happened is that

Last edited Thu Oct 11, 2012, 10:39 AM - Edit history (1)

there is an inherent racism that has it's tendrils firmly intertwined into the right-wing culture, roughly just under half of our entire population. What we are seeing is a cult of racism that is simply exhausted with keeping their feelings quiet, personal, private. And the election of Barack Obama in 2008 sent them over the edge. Since then they have been manipulated by their "leaders" (including Limbaugh) to see that it's ok to let it all out. And their leaders have shaped their hatred into a significant voting block to counteract the voting power of the black/latino communities in America that they know will support the President.

Their support of the gutting of social programs and their clinging to their guns are, respectively, to prevent their tax dollars from supporting "the n***ers and the w***acks" on food stamps and welfare and in their schools, and for protection against same in some imagined race war that has been afoot since Reconstruction.

"What The Fuck is wrong with these fucking morons?" Racism and hatred for Liberals who look out for minority interests, and the voices that manipulate them, are what is wrong with these morons.

This is a repost of my comment here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1457892

[liberaltiff]

14. I completely agree with you ^ Racism=Hatred, makes people do strange things

[marions ghost]

74. I dont think the RACIST right wing culture is one half the country

It's more like one-fourth but that's enough to dominate the discussion, as they have...

[SammyWinstonJack]

106. +1, sadly.

They're not voting for RMoney, they're voting against THAT black man.


Disgusting, that!

[Solomon]

126. +1000

Racism runs much deeper than people care to admit.

[ArnoldLayne]

12. Your fucking right you mother fucker!!

[HopeHoops]

13. Just weekends?

[AZ Progressive]

16. There is no hope for this country...

...unless there is a revolution, if Romney wins.

4 years after these bastard right wing businessmen preaching deregulation wreck the economy, they manage to put one of their own in the presidency. It would be madness!

This teaches the Right Wing that you could do anything bad (not just the deregulation wrecking the economy, but having an idiot president for 8 years), and within 4 years, the majority of the population will forget about it. People would only elect the Democrat to clean up the Republicans' mess, and then the Republicans will take over after that, until they make another mess...

This election, if the Right Wing steal it or even win it, shows that billionaires can outright buy the government.

And this election would, if Romney wins it or even that it is close, that Americans continue to become dumber and dumber (its so stupid for Americans enough to favor gutting Obamacare and let their Insurance company operate the "death panels" which choose if they live or die if they get cancer for instance, or rescind their insurance coverage (if they have individual coverage), using any excuse in their past history, just to get away from paying for any serious healthcare bills for them. They think their insurance is sooo good. "I got mine so screw you" they tell to the 50+ million uninsured Americans.)

[marions ghost]

75. I have to agree

if Rmoney wins, it would turn us into a democracy in name only. We are perilously close.

FUCKING VOTE as if your fucking life depended on it--because it really fucking does.

[warrior1]

17. I think I need a break too!

[FLyellowdog]

18. I feel the same damn way. I do not know how I will endure a Rmoney presidency.

I can hardly endure the campaign.

[WilliamPitt]

20. Fuck and yes.

And fuck.

[darkangel218]

26. lol! n/t

[CrispyQ]

21. I am fucking with you all the fucking way!

I have a friend & she's not very political, but considers herself a conservative. Recently, we discussed the war on women. She was furious at some of the statements repubs made - legitimate rape, forcible rape. She was angry that they want to take birth control away. "They are not taking my BC away! Or my daughters!"

Three weeks ago she liked Mitt Romney on her FB page. WTF? I am surprised how upset I am about this, but I simply don't understand her. How can you care about these issues & then vote for the very party that wants to restrict your rights? I have not called, emailed or anything, for fear I will start by saying, "I didn't realize you had your head so far up your goddamned ass!"

[NoMoreWarNow]

23. yeah-- I have had a similar experience on FB--

mindblowing. One the one hand, you want to say they get what they deserve, on the other, I don't want to see innocent people suffer.

[TwilightGardener]

36. I've had people do that, too--I don't know if they're just

the usual weak-minded low-info voters who cast votes based on whose suit and tie they like better, or if they say shit just to agree with whomever they're with (but mean none of it). Either way, I've learned I don't want to be friends with them.

[Waltons_Mtn]

50. I have a FB friend who is Gay.

I noticed a few weeks ago that he had "liked" Paul Ryan. I posted to his wall something to the effect of him having his head up his ass. Completely blows my mind.

[NoMoreWarNow]

22. we survived Bush... but I don't really know if we will survive Romney

the guy is a total puppet for horrible horrible forces

[yourout]

30. Barely.

We made it through Bushco by the thinnest of margins.

What ever margin for error we had has been long since burned up.

Another Bushco could very well bring the end of the USA as we know it if not the whole planet.

[NoMoreWarNow]

156. yep-- I agree

Bush put us in critical care, and we are recovering slowly... Romney would be a fatal new infection...

[freshwest]

31. +1

[awoke_in_2003]

51. We may have survived...

but we were jerked mighty far to the right.

[one_voice]

25. I totally fucking agree!!!

I don't think we can survive another fuckin' rupuke presidency.

I don't know what the fuck those wishy washy motherfuckers are thinking!! I think they should have to bear the entire fucking hurt of their bullshit decisions!

Obama didn't fix shit fast enough...FUCK THAT NOISE!!! You know who says that? People that are doing just fine, people that another fucking disaster won't matter to, fuck 'em....

Now I'm pissed off even more than I was before....

Have a nice day.

[smirkymonkey]

144. I don't think we could survive it either.

I know I couldn''t. It would be an absolute disaster. I can't understand how more people can't understand what a complete nightmare a Romney presidency would be.

I would probably have to leave the country. I still have the right of return to Italy. Anything would be better than living under a Romney/Ryan administration.

[Bake]

27. I'm with you, PCI.

If we lose this one, I'm out.

Bake

[Hoyt]

32. Oh yeah. I can't go through another like 2004. I was in a funk for months.

[CrispyQ]

84. I was in a funk for months. Ditto.

I got home from election judge duty around 9:20pm. They had just called PA for Kerry & OH was looking good. Fifteen minutes later OH flipped. I went to bed in tears & called in sick the next day. I was in a funk for months.

[RevStPatrick]

33. Really? You're going to escape?

That seems unlike you.

If that happens, I'm going to start breaking things.
Big things.
Lots of them.
And I'll probably get into trouble for it.
But I don't care...

[socialist_n_TN]

143. FINALLY!!!!!!! I've been watching this thread.........

and it took 33 fucking posts for somebody to come up with anger turned OUTWARD, not inward.

I hate to be negative (normally I'm a pretty positive person), but quite frankly, I'd say the odds are good for a Romney win. The polls are close enough to steal, massive amounts of money are being spent to elect him, voter suppression is overt, racism is rampant (not even a dog whistle anymore), and even people who might SAY they'll vote for Obama, might not when they get in the voting booth because of that racism. And all most people, even on here, can do is bitch and get depressed about it. Of course it's hard to blame people for getting depressed when the Democratic Party's answer to voter suppression and outright electoral fraud is "GOTV".

Yeah I'd say break something. Like the fucking system that's oppressing us. Join the revolutionary socialist left and start trying to CHANGE IT! Militantly trying to change it.

[TwilightGardener]

34. Righteous.

[abelenkpe]

35. big fucking K&R nt

[mnhtnbb]

37. Fuck yes. I'm right the fuck with you.

[KT2000]

38. My once repub sister

is so upset she has totally quit watching television. That scares me - as a political junkie I can rationalize my anger but to see her so worried means a lot.

[guardian]

39. Only one thing to do

[CoffeeCat]

40. I am normally a very calm and centered person...

...who doesn't swear a lot. However, I really share the tone and tenor of your message.

I have found myself completely depressed just listening to the news. I've had to shut it off. Normally, I have it on all day, as I work at home.

And it's not that Obama has given up a few points in the polls and that Romney has gained a bit. I am really not worried. I have faith in President Obama. I know that he and Biden will "bring it" during the next debates.

What I am most concerned about--and most depressed about--is that this country is full of completely lost idiots that we can never reach--and they can decide elections. I think there is a movement to actually NOT THINK in this country. Anyone who takes a serious look at Romney and his flip flops and lies--and then looks at what Bush did to this country---cannot possibly suddenly be smitten because of a cute debate performance.

But the reality is--there are complete non-thinking, anti-intellectual idiots out there.

I live up the street from a tea bagger who argued like a junkyard dog--two weeks after the mortgage collapse--that the banks needed to be further deregulated. OMG...I get a stomach ache just thinking about it. Glenn Beck tells these people lies and they eat it up like they're at an all-you-can-eat bullshit buffet. They don't think for themselves, and the neocon and corporatists are duping these useful idiots.

It's not Obama that is disappointing. In fact, I thought his shocked response to Romney's endless staccato of lies--was human. Obama, the adult showed up to debate a petulant child who lied and lied and lied. Romney is the one who should be ashamed of his performance.

Going forward--I think we have to realize how important our votes are. We must vote and we must take others to the poll with us and call our local Dem offices and volunteer. We can make a difference. These bamboozled idiots vote in high numbers--and we have to counter them.

But I understand your anger and your disgust and I thank you for sharing it.

[deaniac21]

42. sententious

[barbtries]

43. fuckin A

this is a stressful time.

[LiberalLovinLug]

44. It would be a fucking clusterfuck

If Romney wins. I don't even want to fuckin think about it.

[davidthegnome]

45. Good fucking post.

Even if that fucking asshole Romney does somehow manage to win or steal the fucking election though, I'm not going to let it fuck me up. Remember - the election CAN be fucking stolen.

As for the dumb fucked up fucking fucks who are trying to put the other dumb fucked up fucking fucks back in the fucking driver's seat... well, I think they're all fucked up.

Seriously though, I'm confident that we've got this, I really believe we're going to win this election. I just can't imagine Mitt Romney being elected President of ANY Country - no way.. America is not going to put this fucking idiot in the oval office. The only way he's getting there is if cheats. There might be a lot of dumb people in this Country... but there's a lot of smart ones too. Here's an example - check out the underground for a while, thread count, post count, even registered user count. Then check out the Free Republic.

We're winning hearts and minds, more and more every year I think. Even if Romney somehow ends up in the oval office, it will be but a temporary victory for a party that social evolution is slowly pushing off a cliff. I won't give in to despair no matter what happens - because I believe in humanity, in progress and in the idea that all people eventually want to do the right thing.

All that said... this victory will be ours. I'd bet every dollar I've got left (not much, I'm in college) that we will re-elect the President for another term.

[alterfurz]

47. Idiocracy: more of a documentary than a comedy?

[kimbutgar]

87. I so agree with you. I watch that movie or parts of it when it comes on TV

and it is scary because that is where we are heading. My sister listens to NPR, reads Time and Newsweek and other magazines but is not a political junkie like me.I gave her this movie to watch and she said it was so scary on so many levels as she could see the US going in that direction. But she is firm in her belief that President Obama will win re-election. She talked me down several times when it showed McCain up and said, " no Obama will win". I'm hoping she's right again. But I can't believe how stupid people are to watch the debate last week and say Rmoney would be a better president. Stupid people not paying attention but drinking the sound bite kool aide. I'm afraid they will get stupid like they did with reagan and say rmoney is just like him and vote him in. God help our country, god help the people on this site because they will go after us to cement their power.

[whathehell]

48. I hear you, PC...I was feeling very nervous about a possible Romney win yesterday, but today

I'm feeling more optimistic.

If Romney wins, I'm afraid and the spouse I may have to give up on this country (shit, I feel guilty just saying that),

at least for ourselves...What would happen, I think, is that we would wait five years until the spouse is able to retire and then

Go Somewhere Else -- Maybe Europe or Canada -- or maybe just to THE most progressive state in the country -- California?

Vermont?...I don't know...It's a mess. As the spouse and I were saying last night, we're in our early sixties and frankly,

we're SICK and tired of this horrible, seemingly relentless march to the Right that's been happening here since Reagan.

As Boomers, we remember a Better America, a MUCH Better country, and it gets SO tiresome having to FIGHT for every

Little last vestige of the New Deal America we were both raised in. the fact is, this country has the SMALLEST safety net of

any western democracy in the world, and the Fascists want to take even THAT from us.

[Jamaal510]

62. Even in CA, we have our share of wingnuts.

In 2008, we failed to get a 420 legalization bill passed, but we instead passed a ban on same-sex marriage. And Meg Whitman was almost elected governor in 2010.

[whathehell]

63. Aw Geez.

Are they mostly in the Central Valley and in the far north of the state?

[Jamaal510]

68. I think all of the coastal areas are blue,

but the further inland you go, the redder it gets.

[whathehell]

78. Yep..That was my impression. n/t

[druidqueen]

77. Understand your feelings

Because my husband (who will be 73 in 3 weeks & only has SS - no pension - & has serious health issues - lung cancer in both lungs, emphysema, & serious heart problems) & I (I'm 65) have our house here in southern coastal Maine up for sale. As soon as it sells, I will retire (actually quit my job.... no retirement other than SS), we will sell most everything (cars, furniture, etc.) and we are moving to Ireland. I have my Irish citizenship & passport and am eager to go. They have national healthcare & even though they are just beginning to recover from the ravages of the economy, things are looking better in Ireland - at least they care about their citizens . We plan to rent a furnished house on the west coast of Ireland. I've crunched all the numbers & between the proceeds from the sale of our house ($100 - 125K) & our SS (which will not have Medicare premiums deducted nor will we need to purchase a Medicare supplemental policy), we will be able to make it. If we stay in the US, I will have to work until 10 years after I die (I've crunched those numbers, too )

I never really thought that we would leave the US (neither did my hubby), but it's the only way we will survive & hopefully have a few good, relaxing years together in Ireland.

[whathehell]

82. Thanks, and good for you for doing what you have to. It's great that you have dual citizenship and

the option to go to Ireland....I sincerely wish the best for your and your husband.

Are you originally from Ireland?....I ask, because both my father's grandparents came from Ireland

and up until the early to mid eighties, I could have claimed dual citizenship on the basis of just

one of four of my Irish greatgranparents, but they changed the rule and now it only goes back to grandparents.

Best of everything to you.

[druidqueen]

88. Irish citizenship

I was able to get my Irish Citizenship through my paternal grandparents. Took a bit of research & obtaining the proper paperwork... although the documentation from Ireland came through quickly....now getting my parents' birth & death certificates & marriage certificate & my grandparents' marriage certificate & my birth certificate from Manhattan was a totally different adventure!!! Looking forward to lots of Guinness

P.S. Want to buy a lovely home in southern coastal Maine?????

[whathehell]

92. Good for you..I'm sure you will enjoy your life there.

I'm also sure your house in Maine is grand, as the Irish say, but, at this point,

Chicago winters are cold enough for me.

[eaglesfanintn]

158. Even my wife,

who used to be a Kansas Republican and is slowly, but surely, becoming more and more progressive is about ready to move. We're stuck in bright red Tennessee, but she's ready to pack up and head to a blue state or Canada.
It's amazing driving around the suburbs of Memphis and seeing beat up pickups with Rmoney bumper stickers or Lexus' with "Mitt" stickers and just shake my head. The city of Memphis has really high unemployment - like 15% and among young African American men, it's like 25%. The schools are falling apart, police are understaffed, roads need work, and houses in every neighborhood are in foreclosure. Yet these asshats have no problem voting for a party that will do absolutely nothing to fix any of those issues. I just shake my head and flip off any houses with Romney/Ryan signs in the yard.

[brush]

49. Woohoo

I'm with you all the way on this, PCIntern. And I like hearing a good heartfelt vent. Go Obama.

[go west young man]

52. Simply put the fuel that drives their fire. It's called racism.

[april]

53. ditto...

[Yavin4]

54. Disappointed but Not Surprised

This is the same stupid ass country that elected Bush twice. I guess we need more wars, more Katrinas, and more financial collapses before these morons get a clue.

[zonkers]

55. I think this one is not close enough to steal. I think Romney

will lose tremendously. I just don't see who his people are. He has alienated everyone. I mean who is nuts about Romney? No one.

[porphyrian]

56. Just be sure to vote.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

58. I have/had a 59 yr old lady friend...

who seemed open minded and appreciative of Obama and then Bang! She highly praised Condi's RNC speech 'Without a teleprompter! Wow!' Never mind she has made the same speech 100 times on her speaking circuit. Then she didn't think much of Bill or Michelle's speech. She called me gleefully after the debate, quoting Donna Brazille and shit. Now her sister tells me she phonebanked for the LDS (Liars Dissemblers SickFucks) Asshole. This ¿Friend? is lower middle class, yet bought her first home in 2009 with the help of her sister, her two employee employer and wait for it..........Obama's 1st Time Home Buyers Tax Credit-$8,000 which was essentially a grant for her as she pays close to zero taxes. She also got the $3,000 deal from Obama on making her house energy efficient. She sent me a picture of Obama 'cracking under pressure' photo dealy. I'm done with her. Oh Yeah...........FUCK!

[yawnmaster]

60. As long as "our" means "American citizens"...

If not, I, myself, am a bit tired of this gaming where one side wins and one loses.
Although, "we" are a majority, "them" is also a very large population.
This country needs to work for both and splitting America just feeds a cold civil war.
Let's do what's right for the country and not "us".

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

61. I'm in favor of fucking..if consensual.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

64. Does this mean it's a good idea to invest in liquor stocks?

[CanonRay]

66. We're closing on the sale of our house two days after the election

so I'll know if I have to leave the country, or if I can buy another house here.

[valerief]

73. Please. It's not the voters so much as it is the vote counters. nt

[sharp_stick]

81. Oh go fuck yourself troll

back to the freep with you.

[scheming daemons]

85. pizza has been delivered

[sharp_stick]

86. Nice and fast

Domino's has nothing on MIRT these days.

[Cha]

117. lol one on "the jury" voted to keep it. nm

[uppityperson]

83. Thank you MIRT.

[AverageJoe90]

80. I honestly can't blame you. nt

[lebkuchen]

89. I forgot TV existed during 8 years of Bush

I plan to retire in 6 years. The next four will determine which continent I will be living on (currently it's Europe, the socialist capital of the world).

[Savannahmann]

90. I agree with you, to an extent.

In addition to the stupidity of our fellow citizens, I am furious with the party. They failed to properly prepare the President for the debate, which has made this race a close one. The party failed to take the enemy seriously, they coasted into the debate, and expected to coast through it. I am angry about this, because the first rule should always be to never take anything for granted. Yet, it is obvious that our party took this election for granted.

How do I know this? Simple. Look at the advertisements we have been running? Any issue oriented ads? By issues I don't mean that Romney is a lying tax dodging ass, that is a good issue, but not the only one. I remember elections gone by where they would show a school, and then highlight the party or candidate position on the school. Or they would show a small business, and highlight the party, or candidates position on that business.

Why didn't we have ads ready to roll out the night of the debate co-ordinated with President Obama. "Sir, mention school funding and how we expect to address the issue." Then the next morning everyone wakes up and sees the President saying the words on the news, and then sees and hears the same issue highlighted in an ad. Then we win the debate, and the public support because they KNOW what we think.

Instead, we spent days screaming that Romney Lied, which gives the appearance of scrambling for a theme. Why the hell didn't we have a theme ready? The Republicans damn sure had one ready. The next day they had messages out highlighting Romney's lies like they were sainted truth. They stayed on message, while we scrambled for a message. We finally settled on one, besides Romney lied. We settled on Big Bird. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen out of a campaign as a positive. Seriously, we are so far off message that it is at least two time zones away.

So instead of pointing to average citizens, and saying this is how the election affects you. Or this is how the issues affect you, and your neighbors, and your towns. We are saying vote for us to save Big Bird. While in the mean time Romney is free to lie to his hearts content, and the Press blasts us for running Big Bird ads. I'm not even talking about the Nazi's on Faux. I'm talking about those we normally quote regularly. Chris Matthews Blasted the Big Bird ads. &feature=player_embedded" target="_blank">The Today show blasted us.

We are running for the Presidency in an election that matters. We are spending tons of money to tell the people how we stand on trivialities, while ignoring the issues that matter. Why aren't we running ads that say President Obama saved our economy by pushing the Stimulus through? Why aren't we showing the bridges built, the roads that were repaired or built? Why aren't we running on the fucking issues?

Yes my fellow citizens are idiots, but so is my party. Because they aren't telling the citizens what they need to know to make informed choices in the election. No wonder they're falling for the Rethugnik crap, we're not telling them anything different. We're not making the point that our way is the best way. All we're doing is screaming that Romney is scum. True, absolutely true, but is that all we have to make our case with?

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

91. I had an argument for this..

But I got slapped before for the ideas I presented on this forum, so I deleted it.

Nobody really thinks critically anymore, in addition this forum cannot take ideas that
are out of form with the Democrat Party. We must remain in lockstep with them, or get
blasted by 'em.

Sooo, you are right and profound, wise beyond all.

We should just get drunk and watch TV.

After all that's what they want us to do.

No offense intended to you PCI, it is just the way things are!

[PCIntern]

94. I think you meant to say "Democratic Party", right? nt

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

103. yes you are right!

I was thinking democrats and the like and just made a mental error.

So sorry!

[maddiemom]

125. See how the that Republican rename is working?

[Kurovski]

142. You mean "Repukelican"?

I don't see many Republicans anymore.

[Cha]

118. ...

tv lol

[Savannahmann]

114. It's a shame really.

Here on the net, we can discuss any issue, and come up with ideas that our party, and our nation, might consider. But if we are afraid to discuss those things, because of the response of a few, many good ideas and suggestions will be lost. Perhaps the answer to the problems we face is rattling around in one of our minds, but it is not thought of by the party leaders, so we'll never even consider it.

Well, in that case, I'm a problem. Because one of those things I hold absolutely sacred is the First Amendment. I will not yield my right to peaceably assemble to redress grievances because someone might not approve. We've seen that, it's the Rethugniks, and I'd rather crawl over broken glass than join them.

[JackN415]

93. calm down, things will be OK, ...you make it like 2 TD ahead and fumble on your own 5 yd line

[j3161usa]

95. Yep!

You're absolutely right! Nothing else to add, you said it all. And I'm not at all offended by the profanity--I think in the context of which you speak, it is most appropriate.

[Mira]

97. No matter how hard I might try

I could never have said it so well.
Appropriate eloquence is evident and in play.

[kaiden]

98. I never had a dentist use such strong language.

Will you marry me?

[PCIntern]

102. so far, yours is the best offer of the day...

I'll keep it in mind...

[DocMac]

163. Wouldn't a phone call work as well? nt

[toby jo]

99. It's Beck & co.

My business partner goes home early every day because he 'can't miss him.'

They won over the stupids. If we had a white guy up they might be getting clobbered by now,

but we'll win anyhow.

[lunatica]

100. Fuck! Do I ever relate!

I love that string of fucks you wove through your comments. Very satisfying.

[LongTomH]

101. Fuckin' A!!!! If Mitt Fucking Romney wins.....

• Bush put us on the edge of another Great Depression. Ryan/Romney's economic plan is Bushonomics on steroids! The Romney years will be known to historians as The Greatest Depression!!!!
  
• Mitt will come into office accompanied by anti-science fanatics like Todd Akin, who will defund most science in the US, accelerating our descent into Third World Status!
  
• Any slight progress made on combating Global Warming in the last few years will be wiped out, probably taking the world past the point of no return!
  
• Demographics may be moving our way; but, a Republican win across the board would put them in total control of voting, which would probably make the US a one-party country, like unto the old Soviet Union, for decades!!!!
  
• Ruth Bader Ginsburg will be replaced with a far, far right Supreme Court Justice, assuring that:
  
  • Roe vs Wade will be overturned!
    
  • Citizens United will continue as one of a long line of pro-corporate, pro-plutocracy decisions.
  
  

Sorry about all the exclamation points; but, it's that or just writing OMFG every line!

[Sparky 1]

104. I don't get it either. Republicans have alienated seniors, students, the poor, teachers, cops,

firefighters, public sector workers, union members, blacks, Hispanics, anyone with brown skin, gays, all those without health care, and now they're trying to take not only the right to choose, but birth control away from women.

Who is left to vote for them?

[Ikonoklast]

107. ESS, Diebold, Sequoia....

[FiveGoodMen]

108. I'm right the fuck there with ya!

That the US population is even considering Romney means we really don't deserve to exist.

[jimlup]

109. Right there with you!

I feel 100% the same fucking way!

[99th_Monkey]

110. I felt that during/following the debate

all of a sudden the inconceivable was suddenly seeming to start becoming
people regarded as "reality".

Whole TV network new organizations repeating Rmoney LIES as though
they were true.

But it's not over til it's over. Til then, keep it lit.

[Aldo Leopold]

111. Dude, this is how I feel every fucking day.

I cannot believe how fucking stupid the average American must be for things to be anywhere near close in the political scene in this country.

[ffr]

112. Vote and get everyone who's like minded to vote

And no matter how many complacent brain-dead drones vote against their best interests, it won't matter.

[Avalux]

113. Defies any sort of logic or reason, doesn't it?

I am baffled as well, that people can be so STUPID to actually vote for Romney, how can they do that?? Do they not understand? Apparently they don't, and I attribute it to ignorance, fear and indoctrination similar to a cult. It prohibits them from being able to think at all, being able to understand, being able to see the truth from the lies.

My 16 year old daughter asked me last night: "Mom, do you think I will have a good life? I'm worried about the environment and what's going to happen in this country". I told her "yes", but in my heart and I am not so sure.

I'm every bit as upset as you are.

[Cha]

115. I've already thought of

that about "netflix"! I don't drink now for a long time so I'll just have to do more Running!

Muchas Gracias for your dead on Rant, PCIntern!

Fuck Yeah!

[Bucky]

121. PCIntern, I believe you've found JUST the right amount of cowbell

[jsmirman]

122. I won't say you need to "vote." YOU NEED TO VOLUNTEEER

Rooting for "things to work out in our favor" doesn't cut it.

VOLUNTEER

VOLUNTEER

VOLUNTEER

This means either canvassing or making phone calls or donating money or doing... SOMETHING.

Biting down on a pillow, though, won't get it done.

[daligirl519]

123. Fuck you. . .

You fucking fuck! ( I love saying that.) Perfect noun, predicate, and modifier.

[Douglas Carpenter]

127. "undecided voters are biggest idiots on the planet" - Brian Griffin

[colsohlibgal]

128. It's Amazing This Is Even Close

A similar question runs through my mind constantly, and it's how so many people are so easily manipulated.

One case driving me nuts is the comeback of Obama birtherism thanks to that crank movie "Obama 2016". It seems that the state of Hawaii and the Honolulu newspaper went into cahoots to make Obama a citizen - and the paper went back in time to do it.

You can't convince people who are glued to Fox, you can't prove to them that they're wrong, they won't accept anything as impartial truth.

I fear for the U.S....I fear things may have to get a whole lot worse before enough people wakeup and quit being played to carry water for billionaires.

[Curmudgeoness]

130. I have had to discontinue any discussions with these idiots you speak of.

I usually try to get through to them in even small areas, but I give up. They are getting dumber and dumber.

But I just do not believe that arrogant bastard has a chance with the majority....just with the extremists. I have to believe this.

I put a lot of the blame on social media and the hateful emails that too many people are believing. I have never been pulled in by any of them, but if, god forbid, Mittens would win, I am going to become a prolific dirty email writer.

[lonestarnot]

131. You think your pissed! What if you worked for a fucker that made you stand on a stage and appear to

support Mittwitt w/o pay or lose your job! Look'n like a North Korean mourning Kim Junkforabrain.

[hrmjustin]

132. we can all go to canada together.

[donqpublic]

133. I will consider a Romney win as a coup against the people

I am not the only one.

[madokie]

136. I agree with you

this countries biggest problem is our Press is not doing their job. They are supposed to be non partisan but when the rich republicons own most of the media outlets it no longer is non partisan. Fix the so called free press and you will fix America. Right now lies are spoon fed to the masses and many of the masses either don't care, aren't paying attention of don't have enough brain cells to figure it all out on their own

[just1voice]

137. I'll tell you exactly what's wrong with them, we let them get away with crimes

High crimes like: conspiring to commit war, torture camps, spying on Americans, rigging elections, massive propaganda networks, worldwide banking conspiracies and nationwide corruption on every level.

We need to hold a few trials, very public trials and then put some of these FUCKERS in jail. Until then, they'll just keep committing more and more crimes and get congratulated by their cronies for doing it and financially rewarded for doing it with tiny little fines and slaps on the wrist.

[DocMac]

165. Look over there! It's Lance Armstrong...

let's at least prosecute that fucker!

[rurallib]

138. I just let loose with almost the same rant at the campaign HQ tonight

What in the fuck are these people thinking?

[Generic Other]

139. It will only happen if they cheat

And this time, the rest of us need to fight back. Like real men and women do in other countries when corrupt officials subvert democracy.

[MizzM]

141. So I meet a neighbor in the laundry room

at our apartment building, and he starts talking to me about Merida, Mexico. At first it was Veracruz, but now it's Merida. "Oh, you are planning on a trip to Mexico, Bob?" "Yes," says Bob. "Well, that's nice," I say. "When are you going," says me. "If Romney wins this election, Sophie (his dog) and I are headed to Merida." "That seems kinda drastic, Bob," I say. "The situation calls for it," says Bob.

I went back to my apartment and looked up Merida, Mexico. Seems like a great place! Wonder if he would like company.

[Brewinblue]

147. Fuck, fuck, fuckity, fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!

eom

[Auntie Bush]

148. I was so upset I couldn't sleep last night at the thoughts of a Romney presidency.

I already take Ambien...I wonder if I'd ever get a good night sleep again.

[world wide wally]

149. The best thing we have going for us...

is that Mitt Romney is on their side

[Springslips]

150. If Romney wins I am just going to give up

Not watch news, not read the paper. I am just going to read novels, play video games, be a drunk, and fuck. If another 9/11--fuck them, I'm playing a video game. Some tea bagged friend comes in crying because his son was killed invading Iran? Fuck him I'm drinking. The economy falls into a pit of shit? Don't call me, I'm too fucking busy and vice versus.

I know it is bad being cynical, but if the Bush years wasn't bad enough for them I guess people need more pain! We might as well go to total shit so people awake. Maybe when the 1% has 99.99% of the weath, and people can't afford fucking television and cable they will smarten up!

[Beacool]

151. Relax, you'll survive.

So will the country. It survived Reagan and both Bushes, it can survive Romney.

[Raster]

157. 'scuse me? "...survived Reagan and both Bushes...

Yes, but at what cost? We will feel the negative effects from the cheney*/bush* pResidency for years to come.

Please, think this through. Two words: Supreme Court.

[Beacool]

159. I understand what is at stake.

But there's no need to have a nervous breakdown over it. Frankly, in my lifetime, the only president who I liked and voted enthusiastically for was Clinton. The rest were just there.

[Raster]

161. No nervous breakdown here, however...the next President could have

...the opportunity to remake the SCOTUS in a profound fashion. For our lives and for generations to follow, this CANNOT BE ROMNEY. Period. Unfortunately too many forget about the SCOTUS.

Just a reminder: Citizens United.

And I pretty much agree about Clinton, though I feel Carter is always under appreciated.

[Beacool]

164. I was a little kid when Carter was president.

That's why I didn't include him.

[young_at_heart]

152. I am a senior citizen and find my stress level rising every day

I've read that stress can be a killer and I am trying to figure out how to handle this if Romney gets elected. I find it incomprehensible that anyone would vote for such a horrible man!

[Mkap]

155. Got a phone call

Some woman called me today asking if i wanted to vote for Josh Mandel and Mitt Romney

I tore her a new one

I guess it's safe to say she won't be calling back. She should of just hung up after i said NO when she asked me if i was voting for mitts but she had to try to convince me. Thankfully i was on the phone with her for 10 minutes so hopefully i wasted enough of her time so that she couldn't call up other people and maybe i even rattled her enough to just quit taking calls for the night

Just doing my part for team obama

[Beacool]

160. There was no need to get nasty with her.

She's probably just a volunteer. Would you like to be treated like that if you're making calls for Obama?

[heaven05]

162. well

I think we're going to see a right wing driven, rove stolen republican sweep of the white house, senate and HOR, all the way down to the city dog catcher if we're not extremely vocal, this time, about skullduggery from the right just playing devils advocate here.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

166. All those young people that voted four years ago are

still registered. Get them to the polls. Make sure your kids, nieces, nephews,
kids of friends, young people you work with, neighbors shake off their apathy
and vote. Have an election night party. A lot of young people in the city don't
Have cars, drive them to the polls. Remind them that healthcare they have
on their parents policies will be gone. Remind them Romney will be bush 2.0.
Remind them of the generous tuition available to them thru the AHA.

(1) An additional $25 million for paying back the student loans of disadvantaged background students– up to $30,000 per year– if they become faculty at a health profession school (nursing; medical schools; PA schools, etc.). The Secretary of HHS may also make grants/enter into contracts with such health profession schools to help subsidize the salaries of hiring such ldisadvantaged background students as faculty. 
(2) About $250 million for scholarships to disadvantaged background students attending health profession schools ($51 million for fiscal year 2010 and “such sums as may be necessary” for the next 4 years). 
(3) About $300 million for scholarships to disadvantaged background students who attend health profession schools and then agree to provide service in an unserved or underserved population area after graduation ($60 million for fiscal year 2010 and such sums as may be necessary for the next 4 years). 

They have skin in this game... VOTE