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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAt age 56, I've never wanted a candidate/party to get trounced as much as RMoney/repubs. Never.
Even after enduring and drinking heavily with disbelief with the Reagan coronation, and the shock and anger at the "placement" of the idiot son - twice! - and living through the damage his residency did to the whole world - I think it is the very existence of the tea baggers, the arrogance, over the top wealth and complete bubble life and complete emptiness and lack of true presidential qualities and abilities of R-Money and Ryan - combined with the covert and overt racism and obstructionism of the republican party - it is the ickiness of Cantor, the tears and hue of Boner, and open contempt of the chinless wonder.
I don't just want a Democrat victory and Sweep with Obama's huge F*#&ing coattails....I want to drive this version of the right wing into the ground and as down as possible, so deeply defeated that they have to spend decades and decades wondering what hit them.
Not asking for much, I know....
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)trof
(54,256 posts)We spent way more money than we could afford supporting Kerry's campaign.
We were "all in".
That still hurts.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)It was a bitter, bitter defeat.
And it still hurts.
gateley
(62,683 posts)sandyshoes17
(657 posts)That hurt the worst. I remember that feeling. That's why this election is so important. We can't let that happen again. I can still feel what it felt like and can't endure that again. " Oh, the exit polls were wrong again", Chris Matthews stated. Ugh!
gateley
(62,683 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)a few days before election did Kerry in.
Whatever, the only thing that got me out of it was a Steve Earle concert called "revolution starts now" that had everyone, including my old rear, up, yelling, and pumping fists but this one loud mouth republican who finally had to leave.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I feel the lack of Party outrage in 2000 contributed to the general apathy in 2004. Then again no outrage over the stealing of the presidential election in 2004 for the second time in a row. Fool us once in 2000 shame on them, fool us again in 2004, shame on us. The election process still has huge holes. We had four years to plug the holes.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)destroyed the 110,000 votes..
.....But I wont be happy until Rmoney will be giving his concession speech..I want to see that happen early in evening...
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)Kerry did win Ohio!
bongbong
(5,436 posts)Not even a shadow of a doubt.
The 2004 election theft proved (since it happened for the second time) that we're just another Banana Republic.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,614 posts)I'm almost afraid to look too closely into my own heart to see how much I want this.
I am consumed.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)We have a country that is broken. We have an economy that is 70% based on consumer spending, and that spending comes from the middle class. But the plutocrats have been sucking the blood out of the middle class.
That is terribly unfair, but more than that, it is killing our country and killing the American Dream.
Yeah, I want to see Romney and Ryan get spanked, but mostly I want to see the clearest possible repudiation of their ideology.
And finally, I want to see Obama recognize that mandate and take more aggressive action in return.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)Exactly.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)GentryDixon
(2,950 posts)I have a hard time even listening to Romney's voice. Living around the Mormon influence for most of my life, I recognize the condescending voice that is Bishop Romney. He will always be Bishop Romney, and the Church will be heavily involved in his administration.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I am also looking upon this election as if it were the most important one America has ever faced. I find myself saying that as I walk to the mailbox or sit watching the ants.
We still weren't able to openly discuss election fraud in 2004 without sounding like conspiracy nuts. This time, it's different. And even only in very recent days has election fraud been making the headlines.
Now, if we lose, it's a whole different scenario. It would indicate that America itself was the problem.
charmay
(525 posts)I'm dreaming of a landslide that wipes the smirks off of some of the republican faces that I have to deal with at work everyday.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)ruffburr
(1,190 posts)I am soooooo disappointed in the way things have gone I had real hope after nam that things would change, I've seen this right wing do one thing after another to screw the common man and create wars and push toward a theocracy and a new gilded age, If we stop them now and keep them out of power for the next 4 yrs and then another 8 with a progressive agenda, They will be done, These assholes make it embarrassing to be a old white guy!!!!!!!!
grantcart
(53,061 posts)would caution them to imagine what an unrestrained Romney would be like with all of those toys and Iran so very clever at provoking neocons and what 4 years of war would look like now.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)We are not all Americans in the same vein. We dislike the other half of this country for their beliefs.
If we can't get back to getting along and compromising in the middle, we are done as a viable country.
I am disappointed to say the least.
Martin Eden
(12,864 posts)Every time the Dems take a step towards meeting the Reps halfway, they step away further to the right. With this strategy the middle -- and the goalposts -- have steadily moved further to the right.
What we need is a thorough fact-based policy debate, and then make a strong case for the best policies wherever they fall along the 2-dimensional left/right line. We need 3-dimensional thinking!
AAO
(3,300 posts)Abarly
(1 post)With the gap between the rich and the middle class getting bigger and bigger, this election is huge!
This is a must win.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)As I look to the future I am concerned about SS and Medicare. I could likely survive without or with reduced SS but I had factored it into my retirement planning. But I had NEVER planned on not having Medicare even if the premiums went up significantly. I had always assumed I would be insured and covered even if I had to pay a little more each month because of the cost of the program.
Robme and Lyin-Ryan want to strip seniors of their SS and make Medicare a voucher program to give to the wealthy health insurance companies. I can never agree with that. I am not opposed to gradual changes to these programs over time but not these drastic cuts so they can spend billions more on useless weapons systems and tax cuts for the fucking wealthy.
Fuck them!!!
Skittles
(153,160 posts)it's like after all the damage the republican party has done to America, these two smarmy rich fucks have the utter GALL to get up there and tell us they're better than us. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glaisne
(515 posts)Let's hope it comes true.
ornotna
(10,800 posts)Wouldn't it be great.
Blue Palasky
(81 posts)let me say: YES
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,614 posts)I'm glad you found us!
dhill926
(16,337 posts)completely.....
andym
(5,443 posts)Gore was on track to pay off the debt by 2009 according to the CBO in 2000. Now, there is hell to pay, and Obama will need a Democratic majority to make any dent in the debt and continue the safety net. If Romney wins, he will probably make the debt worse as he dismantles the safety net and takes us back to the 19th century.
Since then Americans have been getting poorer, working harder, seeing more of their friends out of work... while the Bush and Romney types roll it in. Then they blame us for not being them. It use to be the Republican party hid behind a thin veil and people like Bush Sr. or Nixon did things from time to time for the benefit of society. Now they don't pretend. They hate me and it shows. The 2010 election with death panels, FEMA camps, post colonial Kenyan... BS was the end for me. I have zero respect for their party because their party doesn't even fake respect for me. It is the gilded age all over again...
elleng
(130,895 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)But wishing them the most painful comeuppance in history -to grind their brand into the dirt and beyond and never stop grinding until your shoes wear out- hey, I think that's okay.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)I am hoping they all self deport after loss ....
benld74
(9,904 posts)Reagun was a dolt
Bush 1 puked on lap of Chinese diplomat
W well enough said already
GoBAma!!!!
spanone
(135,831 posts)warrior1
(12,325 posts)Flatpicker
(894 posts)It's that I haven't felt this type of blind irrational hatred for a candidate before. Bush the 1st was when I felt it.
But, I have to say that this is the first time that I want a party to simply not exist.
I want this version of the republican party to become regarded as something so vile that their history would be erased from record. I really want them out of the political landscape of this country.
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)Republicons haven't pulled the plug on this grandma yet! I agree, a huge victory for the Democratic party and maybe the GOP will become loyal Republicans again. The fundamentalist have made their way to the middle and must be sent back to the fringe! Even Barry Goldwater believed in separation of church and state!
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)I naively thought that the Repubs couldn't get much worse then they were in the 90's. I was wrong, with Bush, Cheney and of course Karl Rove. McCain was bad but perhaps as a person not as bad as Bush. But Romney and Ryan disgust me. A money grubbing Plutocrat and an Ayn Rand devotee. How lovely. Not to mention the House and Senate Repubs. They are all just vile and I hope this loss hurts them. But I doubt they will change.
joe1991
(178 posts)I knew he'd be terrible from the start, but of course no idea just how bad it was.
I hope America is ready to turn their back on the evilness that is GOP.
Although it's sometimes difficult to see, we are winning the long battle, at least in the social issues.
Perhap with the defeat of Romney we''ll begin to take back the economic issues as well.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)And even we didn't expect the total calamity of those eight years, no matter how much of an idiot we knew him to be here as governor.
sellitman
(11,606 posts)Rec'd & noted!
GOP Pain, coming up!
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Darwinism. I suppose, for the same exact reason I desperately wanted Reagan to be trounced by Mondale - but that just wasn't possible that year. I suppose I wanted Bush Jr. to be trounced by Kerry - but at best a narrow win was all that was realistically possible that year and even that fell short. This year it is within the range of reasonable possibility and plausibility for Obama to absolutely trounce Romney in a crushing landslide. I'm not saying he will. In fact - not to be a downer - but it is still entirely possible for Romney to win - although increasingly it is looking less than likely. So, given that it is possible that Obama could absolutely trounce Romney is a landslide - and given that this time the economic agenda of the GOP is no longer hidden under distracting social issues, or disguised by Reagan's grandfatherly smile or covered by waves of misguided patriotism as the result of some cooked up foreign crisis - I certainly hope that the possible will happen and Romney and the ideology of social Darwinism that he champions will absolutely get trounced, crushed and buried beneath the dirt. This time, it is possible.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)Never in my life did I think this country would be so filled with hate and fear..so stupid...and so easily manipulated...
Well we have a history of racism and so its not surprising...
If Obama were white he would have another 15 points in the polls...
I have found out from many years of trying...you cant reason with righties...not the ones that are running the Republican show today...they will lie, cheat and steal in the name of God and country and dont ever forget that..
life long demo
(1,113 posts)I have to admit when Bushy beat Kerry I did go into a funk for weeks. How could that happen! But when Obama beat Palin/McCain I was flying higher than the clouds. Yes! Then the teahadist came, and I wanted to smack every one of them. Yes I want to bury every republican so deep that they start speaking chinese.