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did these people call for any resignations after 9/11 ?
<Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) is coming to the defense of U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice rumored to be his top rival to replace Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in a second Obama term.
"I'm deeply disturbed by efforts to find the politics instead of finding the facts in this debate," Kerry said in a Friday statement.
"Im particularly troubled by calls for Ambassador Rices resignation. She is a remarkable public servant for whom the liberation of the Libyan people has been a personal issue and a public mission," Kerry said. "She's an enormously capable person who has represented us at the United Nations with strength and character.">
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/09/john-kerry-defends-susan-rice-136988.html?hp=l1_b6
Lasher
(27,597 posts)Could we afford to lose him in the Senate?
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)for Sen Kerry.
Lasher
(27,597 posts)If so, would there be a special election after that? And in that case, how likely would it be for another Scott Brown to take that seat?
JI7
(89,249 posts)since with Biden being VP Kerry has taken over foreign relations committee. if he takes sec of state it will be for 4 years.
he would make a great sec of state and it would be great to have him there. but i kind of prefer he stays in the senate since we can have him in public office for longer that way.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Cha
(297,230 posts)Fuck 'em.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)... started the show he tried to make it seem like there was a crisis. Pathetic!
Cha
(297,230 posts)Class!
sad sally
(2,627 posts)September 16.
With no FBI agents in Benghazi yet - 18 days after the attacks - there are still many unanswered unknowns. It's hard to say mistakes were made; it's branded as being unloyal to the Administration; it's as if not looking for the truth makes any mistakes simply go away.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)cautious initial statements before all the fact are known as "misinformed or mistaken" is exactly what the RW is doing.
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The White House's latest comments on the attack come as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton formed an "accountability review board" to investigate the brutal assault that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens. Clinton named former U.S. Ambassador Thomas Pickering to chair the panel, the Reuters news agency reports....Carney didn't clarify whether the Obama administration thought the attack was planned in advance, Reuters reports...On Wednesday, Matthew Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, told senators that the United States doesn't have specific intelligence that the attack was planned in advance, Reuters reports.
"The best information we have now, the facts that we have now, indicate that this was an opportunistic attack" on the consulate, Olsen said, according to Reuters. "The attack began and evolved and escalated over several hours."
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Sufyan bin Qumu was released from Guantanamo in 2007 to the Libyan regime headed by Muammar Qaddafi. Qaddafi jailed him, but he was then set free on a promise to renounce violence. When the Arab Spring uprising began in Libya, Qumu became part of the rebel movement which eventually toppled Qaddafi...Miller said. "There is some intel about him but it's way too early to verify these reports we've seen that he is the prime suspect or the prime mover. Way too early."
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"Whether it was pre-planned or not is tough because in this environment, in Libya," says Miller. "In a normal place when people show up with weapons and cars and an effective assault, you say that requires pre-operational planning. Libya's a place that went through 13 months of this. There's all kinds of weapons and militias with cars and weapons, so it's the one kind of place this could happen spontaneously."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57517093/white-house-calls-libya-assault-terrorist-attack/
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/28/170078/intelligence-office-says-it-got.html#storylink=cpy
All these reports are about what they learned in the "aftermath." Why are people surprised that initial reports change as more information becomes available?
The RW/Republicans have now latched onto this track, which is completely different from what they were initially pushing, which was that there was intelligence before hand. That is still not the case.
sad sally
(2,627 posts)taking the RW/Republicans track. Not so. Until an investigation is complete, all the facts aren't known. What bugs me is that we - Democrats, and I've been one all my voting life - seem to criticize anyone who suggests that any mistakes are ever made by a Democratic administration.
I'm not surprised reports change as more facts are learned; however, Ambassador Rice seemed certain of the facts she relayed on September 16 on many Sunday morning TV programs - they have changed. And we still may learn that there were intelligent reports that indicated attacks were going to happen - and maybe not. Intelligence seems to indicate there are terrorists everywhere in the world planning attacks on their enemies - mainly the US.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)taking the RW/Republicans track. Not so. Until an investigation is complete, all the facts aren't known. What bugs me is that we - Democrats, and I've been one all my voting life - seem to criticize anyone who suggests that any mistakes are ever made by a Democratic administration.
I'm not surprised reports change as more facts are learned; however, Ambassador Rice seemed certain of the facts she relayed on September 16 on many Sunday morning TV programs - they have changed. And we still may learn that there were intelligent reports that indicated attacks were going to happen - and maybe not. Intelligence seems to indicate there are terrorists everywhere in the world planning attacks on their enemies - mainly the US.
That's not the case here. It bugs me when people take an issue and try to use it to make a generalize or unrelated point. As for the rest of your comment, why would she go on TV and exude anything but confidence in her statements based on what she knew at the time? Can you imagine the shit storm that would have ensued if she sounded flaky and uncertain?
sad sally
(2,627 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)You pointed out what bugs you, and I did the same. The fact is that we disagree.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)yesterday/last evening detailing what happened, the apology issued for the misinformation released, an article reporting the FBI will NOT be going to Benghazi and the reasons why. I realize it's much easier to complain but, doing a little research does have it's benefits.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Hope it happens in my lifetime.