(Rec. if you) are 'White', pay Federal Income Taxes, and LOATHE Republicans.

[denem]

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You can shove your wedges Mitt: 'E Pluribus Unum'; Native Americans , Blacks, Whites, Browns, whatever - we are all in this together. You are on your own: A Billion Bucks Loser. If you want to hear 'White Resentment', pick up the phone, November 7th. 'K

[eridani]

1. I did up until 2011

Does that count? Just on a fixed income now.

[Heather MC]

2. I am Rec'ing for my DH!

[Ecumenist]

3. I want to rec for my husband who pays taxes, Is on the vanilla side, (if he were any whiter, the

poor thing would be clear) and he H.A.T.E.S what passes for republicans....

[cpwm17]

4. I would pay federal taxes

but due to corruption and greedy MF'ers like Romney, my income mostly dried up. The rich get the money that I earned now.

[modem77]

5. I pay them and wouldn't mind paying more in exchange for a single payer healthcare system

[Freddie]

27. +++++

I think most people wouldn't mind paying more taxes if we actually got something for it, like guaranteed health care, instead of endless wars and pointless military bases around the world.

[freshwest]

61. +1

[yardwork]

30. Me too. White tax-payer here, would be happy to pay more for better health care system.

I'd be happy to pay more taxes for better schools; higher wages for teachers, firefighters, nurses, and other essential professionals; and to ensure that nobody in the U.S. is hungry or homeless.

[Bigmack]

36. "They" could raise our taxes 3 or 4

thousand dollars a year, but IF "they" provided universal health care, we'd SAVE money! But I reckon that ain't likely to happen in this STRANGE land! Ms Bigmack

[Stardust]

91. My boss is a Conservative and quite honestly looked shocked when I said basically the same

thing you just said. It wasn't a moment of extreme shock, but I'll never forget the look on her face. Almost like she'd never considered such things. And I tossed it out, naively thinking it was a pretty universal wish for those with less to be provided for.

[kag]

55. YES!

My (white) husband and I have discussed this very idea. We are not wealthy, but we make enough to pay federal income taxes. In fact we pay a vastly higher percentage of our income in fed taxes than Rmoney does. But we would be willing to pay even more if we could get a single-payer healthcare system. And yes, if that were to miraculously happen, we would most likely save money.

[annabanana]

58. no kidding!. . .. . . n/t

[unapatriciated]

63. same here

We have no dependents with standard deductions, both hubby and I make a pretty good income. Our tax rate is higher then mittens. We would gladly pay more for a single payer health-care system.

We know that taxes are needed for a healthy society.

[BellaKos]

6. Well, I am an archetype

of the "typical Republican" on paper. Not only am I white, I'm the whitest of white in that three of my grandparents can be traced all the way back to the 1600 to the south coast of England, the province of Normandy in France, and the Isle of Guernsey. The lineage of the remaining grandparent can be traced back to the origin of the name in Scotland in 1200 AD.

Also, I am a true Southerner. Not only was I born and raised in Georgia, but also my family on both sides have lived in Georgia and South Carolina since the 1600s. My mother's family were among the founders of Charleston. My great-great-grandfather was a plantation owner. In fact, I don't even know of anyone in the whole world whose heritage is so completely Southern. Even my first cousins and half-brother and sister have ancestors from outside the South. I don't at all.

Not only that, I'm eligible to be a member of the DAR and the UDC (United Daughters of the Confederacy). I have two uncles, one in the Army and one in the Navy, who landed at Normandy on D-Day. My father was a disabled WWII veteran. Step-father is retired from the Air Force.

And I'm 62 years old.

So, there you have it. White, Southern, military, and senior. I'm the poster child of the typical Republican teabagger.

And the advantage that this gives me is that I get the racial code words perhaps better than most. There is no doubt in my mind that the Repukes have been using racially-coded language to manipulate Southerners since Nixon's campaign in 1968. And it is apparent to me that a large part of the antipathy against Obama is based on racial hatred that seems deeply embedded in the psyche of certain segments of the American population.

In my case, I was influenced and moved by Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech as a child, far more so than the racism that thrived in my environment.
Weird, ain't it?

[FailureToCommunicate]

15. Those ARE some deep roots! Belated welcome to DU.

Bless your heart.

Where there other factors that opened your eyes to resist the culture around you?

[BellaKos]

19. Other factors?

Actually, I've given this some thought, but I'm not the only Southerner who feels this way, of course. But in my case, I was mothered and cared for by Mary, Marie, and Clara, who were the housekeepers during my childhood -- and who happened to be black.

Also, I never heard the "n-word" used by anyone in my family. And there were occasions when my father demonstrated that he wasn't a racist although he didn't talk about the issue of racism in the South ever. One time, he was buying tickets at the movies when he noticed that a black soldier was turned away. He literally made a public scene when demanding that that man be allowed into the theater. (I was eight or nine then, but the idea of the injustice of segregation was instilled by his emotional outburst that afternoon.) Another time, he threw our next door neighbor out of the house -- jerking her up by the elbow and leading her to the door -- because she had made a racist comment. (That incident taught me that racism -- even from neighbors -- doesn't have to be tolerated for the sake of "getting along.&quot And he helped Clara in a number of ways, even after she had moved on to another job. (This taught me that although Clara worked hard, she still needed help in a world where she was considered second-class.)

So, in light of these subtle influences, I suppose that my heart was primed to receive King's speech favorably when it was televised for the first time. And I suppose that the Beatles and the hippie movement cemented my connection with the "outside world," so to speak. Since then, I have traveled far and wide and have learned that racism exists everywhere, but my experience growing up in the segregated South makes me very sensitive to the issue. That's why I can say, without reservation, that racism is used against Obama through racially-coded words by the Repukes. It is an injustice being done to him, his family, and to the office of the Presidency.

Now, keep in mind, I had nothing good to say about George W. during his pRescidency, but there were *reasons* for that as we all know. What's being done to Obama is UNreasonable. And it is amazing that he's able to overcome it again and again.

[FailureToCommunicate]

22. Your father sounds like an Atticus

You have quite a story. And you write well. I hope you've written about some of this.

(We've just read and watched "The Help&quot

I am so glad you have come to DU. Your insight is so important, and would be valued here!

[oldhippydude]

28. welcome aboard... thats what i thought about atticus

the movie incident reminded me the scene in Giant... the fist fight to the song "Yellow Rose of Texas" over the establishments right to refuse service..

[drm604]

60. Welcome to DU!

What an inspiring story!

[Rain Mcloud]

77. Thanks for sharing!

You brought a happy tear to my eye.

[BellaKos]

83. Thanx everyone. Glad to be here. n/t

[louis c]

7. That's Me

but I don't just live for me.

Although my wife and I have no children, I am happy to pay my share in federal, state and local taxes that helps provide for the education of the next generation, and pay for the teachers who work so hard to provide that eduction.

I appreciate the federal and state help that allows my Mother to live a relatively independent life.

I like my streets to be plowed, my home to be protected at a moments notice by trained, professional police and fire personnel, my rubbish to be picked up, my sewer pipes repaired, my park to be maintained, the street lights working, my mail delivered on time. Oh and did I mention, I like my country to be protected and I want to contribute to the care for those who sacrificed to protect me.

I am also happy to contribute to those who are unable to care for themselves. You see, I may not practice in an organized religion, but I believe in the philosophy of Jesus Christ.

So, your answer is, I am White, I pay taxes, and you will never meet anyone who loathes Republicans at the national level more than I do.

You see, I'm a union guy, and I know who is out to destroy my standard of living and what I believe in.

[lonestarnot]

32. +47

[ZombieHorde]

8. I have love for everyone.

Peace to you, and to all beings.

[Flashmann]

9. Rec

'White', mostly....Federal Income Taxes,of course...LOATHE Republicans,OHHHH YEAH!!

[Scuba]

10. Another old white man for the black guy. Fuck the R's.

[rsweets]

21. i'm with him ^ nt

[angrychair]

11. Can't stand rethugs

Went to a President Obama rally recently and was happy to see people in every shade and color and age range. We are party of the people.

[Dakota Flint]

12. LOATHE is way too mild for me

it is more like "....from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee."

[FailureToCommunicate]

13. I don't loathe Republicans...

...just 99% of them. (I have a few friends and relatives who have not seen the light, and I hold out hope for them, bless their hearts.)

I'll add that I say ditto to what Louis c said above about the responsibility, and advantage, of paying taxes that help everyone (whether they understand that or not)

[rox63]

14. Another federa-tax-paying middle-aged white woman for Obama here n/t

[jackbenimble]

25. Me too. n/t

[whathehell]

50. Me three. n/t

[kmlisle]

16. retired but still paying taxes

When I take money out of my 403 and IRA accounts I pay 25% tax - almost twice the rate of mitts investments and when you look at what kinds of investments we are talking about, mine actually employ American workers!

[newspeak]

23. yep, we gladly pay taxes

also had to pay the penalty after we had to take money out of our 401k early. so, even now that we can't afford it, we got penalized on funds needed to survive. we pay by percentage way more than mittens.

also, just to keep the libraries open, I pay more for my library license plates.

[4_TN_TITANS]

17. white middle age tax payer here

ok, I do have some GA Cherokee in me but...

[SnowCritter]

18. I pity the rank and file more than anything

They've been told that 2 + 2 = 22, that nobody knows what causes the tides, and that "someone else" is responsible for putting them in the position that they're in (unless, of course, they're doing well - in which case they did it all on their own).

As for their leaders, well, I hope for their sakes that God is more merciful than I would be.

[Martin Eden]

20. Yeah, I fit that demographic. One clarification, though:

I have some very dear friends who are Republicans.

However, LOATHE is too mild a word for how I feel about most Republican politicians.
Among our nation's enemies foreign & domestic, today's "conservative" movement ranks at the top in my book.

[OnionPatch]

24. I know what you mean.

I fit that demographic, too, but have never voted for a Republican in my entire life. (I'm 53.) I absolutely despise the Republican party. I think they represent the worst aspects of humanity, especially this current crop of them. But I have some aunts, cousins and co-workers who vote Republican. Mostly they're apolitical and vote that way because of their husbands, families or churches. I don't think they're bad people, just politically misled.

[Martin Eden]

39. Pretty much the same here.

I'm 55 and the only time I voted for a Republican was John Anderson in the 1980 GOP presidential primary (in Illinois you can vote in one primary and don't have to be registered to that party). In the general election I voted for Carter, of course. It still irks me that Reagan is considered a great president by so many.

[eqfan592]

26. You can count me in.

Tho I can't say I loath republicans so much as I do the politicians they elect (I have some good friends and family that I care a lot about, even tho they are republican).

I'm in my 30's, white, coming up on the upper end of middle income between my wife and I, and an avid gun enthusiast. I'm also pro-choice, pro-LGBT equality, in favor of publicly funded elections, in favor of publicly funded education through the bachelor degree level, in favor of universal health care, and am fully willing to pay my share of taxes that would be necessary to fund any and all such programs.

[susanr516]

29. My spouse and I have paid Federal Income Tax for 39 years

And for approximately 10 of those years, after all legal deductions, the final amount of federal income tax we paid was over 5K.

[Proud Public Servant]

31. I pay at a higher rate than Mitt

Won't say I loathe Republicans only because that would encompass friends and family. But I loathe their leadership.

[Bluenorthwest]

33. Paying Fed Income tax yearly since age 19, been loathing Republicans much longer

than that. My parents raised me well.

[ewagner]

34. Yo!

That would be me.

[Freddie]

35. If I got any whiter I'd be albino

British on Dad's side, PA Dutch on Mom's. I think my Lutheran upbringing and my folks being teachers (pro-union) gave me a pretty liberal outlook. And just about all of my whiter-than-white relatives are Democrats too.

[MoonRiver]

37. K&R

And btw, we pay PLENTY of taxes, and at a much higher rate than Mittens.

[Populist_Prole]

38. K&R then

[Bertha Venation]

40. Rec'd

[Walk away]

41. I had a few bad years after the Bush economy but I am back to kicking in my share!

[rwsanders]

42. How about white, male, pay taxes, part of the military (USCG), evangelical christian,

And hate republicans so much it makes my blood boil (not very Christian of me I know).
I was fooled by reagan as a teen (I realize now it is just the way he spoke that made you WANT to believe him and I didn't realize the lies that covered until I was older).
I came to despise them during the 92-94 era. It was then they started to be obvious about what the are. I heard Dobson say that individuals should buy health insurance like car insurance. And since I didn't come from money and had already lost car insurance once, I knew how utterly cruel that idea was. I sent them a letter saying they should get the "Marie Antionnette" award for being out of touch with poor people. What really sealed it was the newt's idea to privitize the national parks. I've never been able to travel much, but I know they are out there when I get a chance (but I'll avoid Yellowstone until Wyoming learns to live with the wolves), and don't want them to be out of reach financially when I can. I tried to explain that one to people in the church. THe math is easy: number of visitors divided into annual budget. I bet it would cost $300-500 to go.
Since then I have learned there is no sane reason to be a republican. There is simply nothing in their platform that is sane or correct no matter what standard you use. Biblical? Not close. Learned from history? No. Learned from economics? No. Passes common sense test? Never. Follow the constitution and declaration of independence? Couldn't pass a 3rd grade test based on either of the founding documents (that includes the hack justice scalia).
The party thrives on ignorance, racism, greed.

[Th1onein]

43. My hand is up. nt

[kestrel91316]

44. K&R

[beac]

45. Yup, yup, and DOUBLE YUP! n/t

[TBF]

46. white, female, tax rate 20% -

voting for Obama.

[truebluegreen]

47. Not stupid or greedy enough

EVER to vote Republican.

WARREN / GRAYSON 2012

[cpamomfromtexas]

48. Absolutely!

That's why I'll keep my current hubby. I live in Texas and I'd never find another non-rethuglican one!

[Tikki]

49. Four here...and a strong accent on LOATHE.

The Tikkis and sons...

[Skittles]

51. here I am

36 years and still going

[smirkymonkey]

52. White, blonde, blue eyed, employed, live in a nice place in a nice city and HATE republicans.

I should be their poster child, but I am anything but. I can't even be friends with someone who is an admitted republican.

I cannot tolerate the ignorance, greed, hatefulness and stupidity.

[Chorophyll]

53. "White," middle-class, taxpayer, never voted for a rethug, and never will.

I like having streets, running water, sewers, schools and unemployment benefits if and when I need them. Call me crazy, but I'm happy to contribute to the health, education, and safety of my fellow Americans.

[montanto]

54. close enough. part hawaiian, but that was a few gens back.

[BootinUp]

56. It was after I heard my first Mantovani record

that I decided to become white. But I would never become a Republican.

[DevonRex]

57. That's me too. Nt

[Generic Other]

59. I feel excluded because I am mixed race

but my white half pays her share of the taxes and loathes Republicans.

[Faygo Kid]

62. Not just white, but male and older, too.

I fit the Tea Party demographic perfectly.

Not a chance, haters.

[CanonRay]

64. That's me, to a tee

[sarge43]

65. Bet your patootie I pay income tax, have been for 50 years.

Day glow white (classic Midwest mix, German/British, just like President Obama) and while there are a couple of Republicans I don't dislike, I detest the creatures running the party.

[living foods]

66. Unrec to the nth degree.

We are One. Tat sat.

[donqpublic]

67. I seem to be various shadings

From pale brick red (when sunburned) or medium sand to maybe an eggshell or bone white. You see what happens to you when you look at interior paint too much.

[Rhiannon12866]

68. Looks like I somehow recced this twice...

But I did get hit especially hard with taxes this year...

[NBachers]

69. I usually skip over these "Rec if . . . " threads, but I'll make an exception for this one

63 years old, never voted Republican; never will. They've been with us since the dawn of mankind, and they are the ignorant, regressive, superstitious element that's been a drag on our progress all along.

Why don't you fuckers all ratpure I mean rapture yourselves immediately?

[silverweb]

70. K&R

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Right there with ya!

[wolfie001]

71. 52 year old

True Blue Union Dem Voter!!! Social Security is ten years off and it better be there when I get to 62!! Obama/Biden2012!!!

[JDPriestly]

72. We are retired and on Social Security, but our children pay big taxes and we did when we worked.

We pay lots of state taxes including property taxes, sales taxes, etc.

[oldsarge54]

73. Too bad the Republicans won't see these Demographics

WASP. Try this, came over to the colonies after backing the losing side in the English civil war. Familly been serving in the cavalry ever since. Yep, DAR and SAR elgible. For that matter, had cavalry colonels and generals on boths sides of the American civil war. Grandad broke the mold. Figured airplanes were the reconnaisance of the future. Took his flight training in 1912. Commanded a liberty bomber squadron in WWI. My favorite memory, him saying "Thou shalt watch thy airspeed indicator, or the ground will rise up and smite thee." Dad did WWII in the Mitchell, Korea in the Marauder, and Nam in the Hun and the Phantom. One of his brothers, Chief of Flight ops on the original Lexington (CV 2 or 3?). By the way, my Mom was British, was a ferry command pilot. Little bitty lady. Should see some of the beasts in her log book. Favorite military quote from her, "I didn't mind sharing the air with Jerry. Not having any guns did bother me a bit." Miss her.

Although I will say Dad did well with my step mother. Her mom came to American in 1912, from Chilhuahua, Mexico. Not familiar with the law at that time, but today people would call her an illegal. Fastest woman with a wooden spoon in California. One of her sons jumped in with the 101st just prior to the offical D-Day in Nomandy. His combat war ended three days later, spent the rest of the war training troops. He seemed to take more pride in calling me Tops when I made MSgt than I did. Miss him too.

Myself, half a tour in Nam as loadmaster, then Kissinger said go home, we won. (yeah right) Finished my career in 1996, watching the wall fall (was living in Berlin as a brat when it went up) and watched Kennedy call himself a sweet roll. Germans loved him in spite of his accent. Damn near freaked out when we had a Foxhound drop in for gas and oil and the way to an airshow, especially when he went, "You want seat?" Had to reset a bunch of circuit breakers after that one.

Protestant as you can get, reinforced anglo-saxon through my Mom, culturally a little south of the border via my step mom, and as a native born Texas, I would vote for a yaller dawg before I would vote for Mitt. Fortunately, I don't have to. Obama is doing a good job given the opposition he had to overcome.

[potone]

74. I loathe most Republican politicians, and the sources of their funding.

Sadly, there are many decent people who are duped into voting for them because they believe in their lying message that they are for small government, support small businesses and believe in a strong America. None of these things is true.

[ejbr]

75. Here's a black man who's proud of my white brothers and sisters. :) n/t

[RuthK]

76. Still paying taxes - nearly 60 years now

I am 76. I started working before I was 16. I paid into social security for 46 years. The reason that it is only 46 years is that I worked for a temporary agency for several years and they didn't deduct SS.

I still pay taxes. Not a lot but it makes a difference for me.

I am furious at those who want to do away with SS. Not only did I pay into it for all those years, but since I didn't make that much money, it was deducted from every pay check. That was true even before they raised the cap in the 1980s.

Romney has tried to define "middle class" as 250K. (Obama has done a little better but not much better.) I never in my life made even 1/5 of that. Most of my working years, I made well under 20K. Where does that put me? I started poor, worked all my life, and now still haven't made it to the middle class. All my fault?

Right now, half of the people in this country make 25K or less. So where does he get his numbers?

Maybe I am beginning to feel like a victim.

[progree]

88. About that median annual income of 25 K - Romney made over 37 K EVERY DAY 365 day/yr in 2011

[font color = blue]Romney has tried to define "middle class" as 250K. ... Right now, half of the people in this country make 25K or less. So where does he get his numbers? [/font]

In 2011, the Romneys had $13,696,951 in income ...., that comes to 13,696,951/365 = $37,526 / day every day of the year.

I was listening to some caller to Thom Hartmann suggest that people just can't get their minds around a number like $13.7 million. But when you express it as a per day rate, even the most 1%-worshipping-goober begins to grasp that Romney's "making" more in a day than he (the goober) is making in a year.

In 2010 the Romneys "made" $21.6 million - that's $59,200/day, 365 days/year.

So anyway, an annual income of $250,000 does seem pretty paltry to Romney -- he made more than that ($263,000) in a week in 2011 ($415,000/week in 2010).

[Curmudgeoness]

78. Well, that is one way to hit the Greatest Threads!

How can we NOT rec this!

[SunSeeker]

79. I paid twice the tax rate Mitt did this year.

Fuck you, Mitt.

[Arugula Latte]

80. Kiss my pasty white federal-tax-paying heinie, Mitt & Co.

[McCamy Taylor]

81. Union family and proud of it.

[liberaltrucker]

82. K&R

Lilly-white, pay Federal taxes and HATE Repukes with a
white-hot passion!

[FredStembottom]

84. I have never resented paying taxes.

Minnesota is such a great place BECAUSE of our history of high taxes. It 's a bargain.
And my wages would just be lower than they are now if we had lower taxes here (due to the market forces that still operate no matter what the tax rate is).

[pink-o]

85. That would be me

For my entire long life I've despised Repugs. And also white bigots who assume just because we both look like we've been dipped in a vat of Clorox we must be the same kind of racist.

I really hate those people.

[GetRidOfThem]

86. we're white...

6 figure household income, paying our taxes without any loopholes, and supporting OBAMA!

[Jennicut]

87. Whiter then white.

So pale I burn at the thought of spending time in the sun. My husband and I pay federal income taxes and I hate Republicans and what they stand for. They step on people to their way to the top 1%. Like Mittens.

[davidthegnome]

89. I'm white, I pay federal income taxes...

but I don't loathe republicans. I loathe assholes, a lot of whom happen to be members of the tea party or the GOP. I loathe the creeps over at the Free Republic, I loathe Mitt Romney. Still, there are a lot of republicans who are decent enough people - a number of them are even voting for Obama this time around.

[dmr]

90. I've paid taxes since I was 15 years old. Now I'm on

Social Security and Medicare, and no longer pay income taxes.

I have Stage IV breast cancer, and my Medicare is keeping me alive. I am grateful for what I receive.

I remember my retired dad being ill and unable to afford medical care until it became available to him in 1965. Medicare was truly a blessing for him, and our family.

I've been a good citizen all my life, and never once complained about paying my fair share of taxes. I've always understood the need for taxes.

I have no respect for the likes of Mitt Romney and his cronies who complain and dodge their responsibilities.

Shame on them.

[HopeHoops]

92. K&R