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Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:52 PM

Just threw a hissey fit in a store in Cape May, NJ...

"Just for Laughs" had a President Obama punching bag in the window. I told them I would never buy another thing in their stores (including "Kaleidoscope" that is next door) or the two other stores they own in Cape May. Also selling a tee shirt with Bush's picture that says "Do you miss me yet?". I also told them I would inform all of my friends from the Pittsburgh Area that vacation in Cape May not to patronize their stores. I was not very quiet about it either. What a disgraceful thing to sell.

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Reply Just threw a hissey fit in a store in Cape May, NJ... (Original post)
Freedomofspeech Sep 2012 OP
TheOther95Percent Sep 2012 #1
SoapBox Sep 2012 #5
grasswire Sep 2012 #7
Freedomofspeech Sep 2012 #9
Beartracks Sep 2012 #30
murielm99 Sep 2012 #41
Initech Sep 2012 #35
Freedomofspeech Sep 2012 #8
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Freedomofspeech Sep 2012 #10
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M_M Sep 2012 #16
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naturallyselected Sep 2012 #32
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jberryhill Sep 2012 #38
hfojvt Sep 2012 #39
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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:00 PM

1. What are the store names?

My husband and I sometimes spend weekends in Cape May. Post the names so I know who to avoid.

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Response to TheOther95Percent (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:05 PM

5. I did some browsing...

and I HOPE that I got this correct:

Just for Laughs and Kalidescope, Cape May, NJ

http://www.scopecapemay.com/shop/

Glitter Girl

http://www.scopecapemay.com/shop/content/7-glitter-girl

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:13 PM

7. one of their OTHER t-shirts:

"My Indian Name is Runs With Beer"


http://www.scopecapemay.com/shop/26-t-shirts


Real nice.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:23 PM

9. Sickening.

I know this guy is making a fortune in Cape May....go figure.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:44 PM

30. I got a shirt like that as a gift...

... from my Native American mother-in-law. We had a good laugh about it.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #30)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:52 AM

41. I used to have a Polish friend who would

tell the most tasteless Polish jokes possible. He would sit there and laugh so hard that after awhile, I laughed, too.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:56 PM

35. $10 says my uncle has that shirt.

But then again he has a lot of shirts that dabble in tasteless humor.

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Response to TheOther95Percent (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:21 PM

8. Just for Laughs and Kaleidoscope

He also owns two other shops but don't know their names.

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Response to TheOther95Percent (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:10 PM

15. You should go into the store and tell them your not buying anything because your friend said you had

 

anti-Obama things in your store. Then walk out.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:01 PM

2. I love what you did!

And here in California, I finally washed my car (?!?!?) and put on my "Forward" magnetic bumpersticker.

I'm starting with a magnetic one, that I can take off when I'm in "employee" parking at work (so that someone doesn't
steal it...like they did my Breast Cancer awareness ribbon and my Support our Troops ribbon...nice.)

I'll go to the regular bumpersticker the 1st of October (and I have 3 in case someone screws those up).

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:01 PM

3. Good for you! If more people

stood up for their values this country would be much better off! Thanks.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:03 PM

4. THAT's the revolution!!! I'm proud of you! nt

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Response to patrice (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:26 PM

10. Have kept my mouth shut for too long....

Like all Democrats...we've let the right wing get away with too much for too long.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:40 PM

13. It's a good!!! thing to show other Americans that it's RIGHT to speak up nonviolently. nt

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:12 PM

6. Excellent!!!

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:33 PM

11. What did they say? Thanks for

letting them know how you felt, Freedomofspeech!

Yeah, real funny a "punching bag President Obama"... so many do use him as a punching bag. It's "YES WE CAN".

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 08:53 PM

14. If "she is embarrassed by the things he sells"

... then there's probably more that makes her feel uncomfortable working there. It's possible that she's got a basis for a complaint: "hostile work environment." While just the goods sold wouldn't be enough of a basis for such an action, I get a 'vibe' that makes me believe there's more.

Sexual harassment isn't the ONLY basis for such an action, although it's far too common.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:14 PM

16. Be thankful you don't LIVE in Cape May

 

I spent a year there one weekend! (With a nod to the late Jerry Orbach.)

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:15 PM

17. Again?

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:15 PM

18. Good for you

If they have a FB page, you might consider a post there with your thoughts or perhaps if there is a Cape May FB page. It's amazing just how quick these posts get response. I think many learned from the Netflix, BOA issues of last year.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:50 PM

19. Im sorry this thread is hypocritical

 

Ok wait a minute!!! Everyone on this thread is so hypocritical .. Lets change the situation.. She's walking by this store and sees a George W. Bush punching bag in the window. Does she A. Complain B. Laugh and keep walking? My guess she laughs.. Look I didnt care for Bush either but its satire and freedom of speech. President Obama is a great president but he is not "Holy" or or "Off limits" to people wanting to make fun of him.. These hissy fits just makes us progressives look bad..

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:54 PM

20. Us Progressives?

You ought to at least try for double digit posts.

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Response to tavalon (Reply #20)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:21 PM

24. Look

 

You totaly miss the point of being hypocrites.. And no i dont like Bush .. Im pointing out that its stupid to go into a store and have a hissy fit because they dont worship President Obama.. No ones sees a problem with this?? Not one of you can tell me you would complain if there were a Bush, Regan, Nixon punching bag.. Note: I thought all of those presidents were a holes also.. Im just saying .. I see alot of stupid gabage in stores mocking Carter, or things about Kennedy or Clinton being womanizers, but i dont let it bother me .. People have the right to satire who they want in this country... This petty nonsense needs to stop.. It makes you just as bad as the enemy you hate so much...

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:39 PM

28. "worship" BINGO. Wow.. did anyone here say they "worshipped" him? No..

but a PUNCHING BAG of the President? Where does it stop? A noose joke? Hanging a chair in effigy? Disrespect is disrespect. I have seen places with all types of political products, but the key is ALL types. Not ones that are obviously a statement about who runs the store. If it was a stupid t-shirt, fine, but a punching bag? Or anything that denotes violence... is a very good reason not to shop there.

"satire" oh, I only wish that people knew what the word really meant.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #28)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:11 AM

52. "Worship" is indeed an obvious giveaway! /nt

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #28)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:07 PM

72. Short memory?

there were plenty of Bush punching bags out there

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:49 PM

32. Equal opportunity offender

I'm going to come to the defense of a fellow low-number poster (what is this discouragement of low-count posters - there really are sincere progressive Democrats who simply haven't posted frequently). I wouldn't be surprised if a store like this also sold similar, or even the same, anti-Romney material. It's possible the store owners simply sells what they think will sell. The punching bag, to me, is over the line, encouraging physical violence. The Bush "miss me yet" shirt has the same saying as countless posters, bumper stickers, even billboards. It mystifies me that anyone would feel this way, but some do, and they have the right to express this sentiment.

And people have the right to boycott the store and encourage others to do the same. As I said, the punching bag goes too far, but I don't think I could discourage people from boycotting a store just because they sell T-shirts that offend some segment of the population. I've been to the Jersey shore, and this covers half the merchants on the boardwalk.

In the range of things to be offended by, given the daily statements and lies of Romney, Ryan, Fox commentators, Republican strategists and lawmakers, this would be pretty low on my list. I have looked at the websites that sell "political" bumper stickers. In their "Conservative" category, I see a lot of slogans that seem stupid, wrong, offensive, or simply pointless. They invariably also sell "Liberal" bumper stickers, which may not offend me, but are often just as stupid or pointless.

To me, so what? I'll save my outrage for the real offenders, who are all too numerous (hey, I live in a state that elected Paul LePage governor, albeit by an election fluke, so I am outraged every time I turn on the local news).

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #24)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:06 AM

42. I'd be fine with the store if they had both Bush and Obama punching bags n/t

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Response to eridani (Reply #42)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:05 AM

83. Ditto!

Although what I really want is a life sized Limbaugh punching bag.
A Limbaugh target practice is not fair because that is like aiming at the side of a barn.

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:05 PM

22. She found the Obama punching bag offensive. You would find the Bush punching bag offensive.

It's stupid for business owners to have anything politically polarizing in their stores, but if they do, they'll have to take their lumps when customers decide NOT to buy from them any longer.



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Response to Lex (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:15 PM

23. Somewhere around 2006...

... I told a store owner with some anti-Bush "novelties" on his counter, that while I feel that Dubya is a worthless piece of shit, I also feel - as a businessman - he shouldn't do things that will alienate any possible customer.

The fact that the item in the OP is on a punching bag goes over the top, tho. Like the Obama poster with the crosshairs superimposed over his face.

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Response to Bigmack (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:26 PM

26. Thanks Bigmack

 

I respect that sir... Im just saying having knee jerk reactions to things does not teach anyone anything.. It just pushes a sterotype of the evil liberal who wants to take away your freedoms.. Which is b.s i know.. In other words please dont do Fox News job for them lol ....

Aslo I dont mean to offend anyone.. I enjoy all opinions .. Its the only way to learn

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Response to Bigmack (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:33 PM

38. It's a novelty store

Stuff that is offensive is sort of their stock in trade.

I had not been in a Spencer's Gifts in probably three decades, and took a peek in one the other day. My goodness what they are selling to teenagers is just as shocking as what they used to sell to teenagers, just updated.

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Response to Bigmack (Reply #23)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:04 AM

39. I usually feel - as a customer

that it's not really my job, nor my business, to tell somebody else how they should run their own business.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #39)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:35 AM

75. I usually feel - as a customer...

... that my suggestions may help a business.

Don't you ever tell a local business you like or don't like something they do/stock/serve..?

I tell my local hardware when a product they sell does a good job or a bad one.

I tell my local used-bookstore what I'd like to have, and they try to fulfill that request. I'm grateful and I tell them.

I tell people who do good work that I'll recommend them to others. (I generally try to be positive, so I don't promise to crap on their reputation.. just not recommend them.)

I think that businesses like to have feedback from their customers.

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Response to Bigmack (Reply #75)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:35 AM

79. Did they ask for your help?

feedback and asking for things you want are a little bit different than free advice about what to stock.

During my own seven years in business I got tired of free advice, I thought my "customers" could have given less advice and bought more books. Either that, or I should have gone into business where I would be paid to listen to people's advice about how to run my business. Sorta like Lucy with her little psychology booth.

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:49 PM

33. I respect your opinion but...

I am no hypocrite. I ran for a political office a few years ago and would not let my best friend put my signs in the window of her business. I don't think it's appropriate for businesses to be involved in politics. I hated W but I would not have purchased a punching bag with him on it.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #33)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:34 PM

71. I still have W toilet paper

Got it from wipeyourtushwithbush.com

Wish I had more but they stopped selling it.

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:02 AM

48. So you like pointing your finger in people's faces while you preach at them?

By your own rules, the OP can actually complain about anything he/she likes.

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:17 AM

55. Freedom of Speech works both ways. The OP exercised such freedom.

I think the right wing types don't like dems and liberals voicing their opinions, and many of us have had enough of the right wing being shoved down our throats all these years, so we're talking back.

We're exercising our rights more openly now.

If you liked or didn't like a window display about GWB, then say so - like the OP did.

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:48 PM

62. Hello and welcome. I see your point but this is a business and if a patron has a problem with the

stores merchandise and is offended, he or she may express their opinion to the store. It may benefit the sales of the store to here the strong feelings of a patron. If the are not worried about their profit and wish to make political statements they are not running a smart business.

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:02 PM

67. Durr Hurr.

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:50 AM

76. What would fox news do

If there was a store that had a george w bush punching bag, they would destroy it calling for a boycott.

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Response to houstonguy34 (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:46 AM

80. No. Where you spend your money is like voting, you are supporting people.

If I see an electrician's truck with anti-Obama bumper stickers I make a mental note to never use that electrician. If business people want to get political then they should expect about half the population to refuse to do business them. I am assuming of course that they are trying to ATTRACT business from certain people by even displaying that crap in/on their window/store/bumper. At that most certainly is not me!

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:01 PM

21. my brother lives in NJ

He is an Obama hater too.

I just file all his emails in a folder and never respond to him. I consider my self an orphan.

Sad but that is what is.

I like the idea of just letting it go and laughing at their stupidity

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #21)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:12 AM

40. it's very sad

that somehow Obama is more important to you than your own brother.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #40)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:40 AM

44. In her defense,

"Obama Hater" is a really broad category.

It runs the gamut from "Snotty libertarian whining about the gubmint stealing his money" to "Crazy-ass militia member that advocates killing someone every time he opens his mouth". If there's one characteristic common to the entire range, it's to Never. Shut. Up. Avoiding politics doesn't work because they're not going to let you. Eventually dealing with them becomes more emotionally draining than it's worth.

So I'd cut her some slack. We don't know her story.

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Response to JoeyT (Reply #44)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:36 AM

50. My brother would very much like to see Obama dead

He hates all immigrants, blacks, hispanics, people on food stamps and does not want Obama care. It took it's toll on me , everyday such filth and hate emails, phone callls that the hate just was too much. I did try to be calm and reasoning, sending snopes to show the false info he sent. He just ignored it or said it was lies. He was not like this when we were younger but he married a woman who has these views and has friends with these views.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #50)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 11:16 AM

57. Yeah, that sounds like some of my family.

About the best thing you can do is retreat for your own sanity and hope they mellow out over time.

It didn't used to be such a problem. You mostly had to avoid people around presidential elections. They weren't even too bad in off-year elections. Now Fox/Rush and their ilk keep them whipped up all the time. I couldn't imagine living like that.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #50)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:10 PM

64. Very sad about your brother

Why can't he just not support the president or stay as far away from those he despise? Maybe some day he'll put a little love in his heart or all that hate will eat him inside out.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #50)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:14 AM

77. I am one person who completely understands



Family or not, if someone is this toxic, you have a responsibility to yourself to distance yourself from them.

People who want to kill Obama, who are racist and hate-filled, are like poison to the soul and to the body. That he is your brother makes no difference here.

It's not about Obama or about politics, really. It's about protecting yourself from toxic people.

And there is nothing sad, immoral or wrong with not allowing them to spew their vile hatred in your life.




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Response to JoeyT (Reply #44)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 12:22 PM

58. "a really broad category"

Apparently not containing a single decent human being.

Is "Bush Hater" or "Romney Hater" a really broad category?

Back when Bush was President, I hardly ever shut up about him. It was like I was on fire, because it seemed like every day brought a new outrage from Bush. I used this as my signature line for my email '"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
George W Bush, accidentally telling the truth'

and believed it was true. It was like there was an "Injustice league" just sitting around and plotting "How can we get more power for ourselves, and how can we further stick it to the working class?"

So I hardly ever shut up about it.

And some people didn't want to deal with it. I sent an email to a family history list. THe email was about a distant relative in the Loomis family who was a state level politician in Nebraska. I didn't mention Bush at all.

Except for my email signature line which was automatic.

But one "Bush lover" on the list could not handle that. He sent an email to the list saying that my email was awful, how dare I include that last line, and I should be reprimanded for bringing politics into the discussion, and so on.

Now it seems the situation is reversed. "Dealing with them" seems to be an issue because of intolerance. We cannot tolerate that they hate the President, so we have to "deal with them" rather than just accept that they have a different point of view.

Maybe it is sisters and brothers, and every family is different. My own brother, though, is pretty much my best friend. In fact, growing up I sorta felt like I did not need friends, because I had a brother. so getting divided by politics, even though i take my politics very seriously - is unthinkable.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #58)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:07 PM

60. It actually is a broad category,

A very broad category. The reason I said that it runs the gamut from "Snotty libertarian whining about the gubmint stealing his money" to "Crazy-ass militia member that advocates killing someone every time he opens his mouth", is because there's a world of difference between the two positions. As they move further toward the latter position, their redeeming qualities become fewer and further between and carry progressively less weight when contrasted with their horrible ones. There's no such thing as a part-time Neo-Nazi. They're pretty much all Nazi all the time. Same goes for a Klansman.

That's not to say her family members are neo-nazis or Klansmen, just that we shouldn't judge her for writing them off since we don't know where they fall or what they're like. Some people are bad enough writing them off is the ONLY thing you can do to protect your sanity, and we all have different levels of bad that we'll tolerate. If contact with anyone, family member or no, is detrimental to your mental health, it's best to sever contact. If having to tolerate hating the president is all you have to deal with, you're lucky that your family are relatively sane.

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #40)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:08 PM

69. It's very sad

that you think you know everything about these two people.

Perhaps you should try having a slightly smaller ego and butt the fuck out.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #21)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:04 PM

68. Why?

Politics should not surpass family relationships. I have family and friends of all political persuasions. The value of a person is not determined by his/her political affiliation.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #68)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:10 PM

70. Relationships are two-way streets.

If the brother isn't willing to put politics aside for the sake of their relationship, why should the poster?

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Response to Beacool (Reply #68)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:24 AM

78. Would you allow a racist family member to use racial epithets and slurs



against your friends or family of said race?

Would you tolerate them using racial slurs in correspondence with you? In front of your children? In public when you are out together?


I wouldn't. Especially when you have asked said family member to stop doing so in your presence.

Just because someone is family doesn't mean they get a free pass to be an anti-social creep who spews vile, racist, hate-filled crap.

You don't know the poster, so at least respect her decision to do what is best in her life. If you enjoy being around hate-filled racists merely because they're "family" that is your choice. To expect others to do so is presumptuous and juvenile.

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Response to Tsiyu (Reply #78)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 01:28 PM

84. You are assuming that her brother fits your description.

I edited my response. In the original post she only mentioned that her brother hated Obama, not that he was a racist. Upon further reading, I see that the brother is a jerk. Although, I think that it's a shame that some families come apart over politics.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:22 PM

25. Good for you. He may not care about your words or views, but if he's like Romney, he cares a

whole lot about your money. Well played,FoS, well played.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:35 PM

27. I refuse to buy gas or eat in a diner with a tv always on Fox, and I told them so

 

First, in the diner, I asked nicely for them to change it to a non-political station (the owner refused)
then I said I cannot eat in a place that promotes lies and while they have a right to do what they please, I don't have to eat there, and I would tell anyone I know

plenty of diners in NY and NJ

one would think if every Democrat did something little like this, eventually it will stop

I figure in a gas station near me that I haven't stepped foot in for six years now, they lost at least 300 fillups from me alone, and about 3000 from at least 10 people I know(let alone any food soda or coffee or chips, etc they also might have sold us.

consumers have more power than they realize. There is always another place even if we have to be a little incovienced, it is worth it.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:43 PM

29. there was a deli named Caruso's, in the town I'm from. And they were All Fox All the Time

We ate there once, and vowed not to come back. All of their stuff in there was hard core Fox News style, and it blared from the tv all the time. Apparently it didn't go over well, as they're out of business... I'm sure the other people in the predominantly blue city, found it unappetizing. Why do people DO that??? I've walked out of many businesses because of it. Just put on the golf channel for heaven's sake. lol

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #29)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 05:12 AM

46. Does Fox or right wing pay for placement to show up? (i.e. that Fox comes on when tv turns on)

 

I put this on a different thread about the NYC subway ads, but it applies here and possibly in its own thread-

It would be interesting to find out how much secret payment of having Fox be the default there is out there.
(Sort of like when you go to movie and actor holds a can of soda, Coke or Pepsi pay for that moment either directly or indirectly).
Is it just a case here that the last few years, Fox nationwide somehow paid either the cable providers(which are just a few major corporations) so that the tv instantly turns on to Fox and someone has to take the time to change it(which sometimes might be a PITA for a regular employee to even find the remote and for a customer to bother to ask the owner/manager).

I have attempted to ask and not once has anyone in person, answered my question. The diner owner just said he won't change the station but did not reply to the payment question.

I know Fox bought out nationwide the one minute radio news every hour that ABC or CBS used to provide.

If Fox is paying the default to happen, then somehow we all need to nationwide attempt to get some one else to bid more next time for their station to be the default.

(Here is an example I know is true-when you stay at any disney place, either in L.A. or Orlando, their tv when you turn it on 100% of the time is their own infomercial park station.
So that indeed is possible.
And my own tv I have it set to Turner Classic movie to come up. So it's not random.

Question is-are the owners of the stores/hotels/restaurants/bars paid to default to Fox?
And are anti-Obama shirts/posters/novelties pushed to be out front and center in store windows somehow? Are people paying for or getting paid for these placements?

(this maybe should be a separate thread).

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:47 PM

31. As much as I'm disgusted by the notion of an Obama punching bag,

I have to admit that I had fun with my Dubya Bop Bag which my extremely rethuglican sister gave me one Christmas. It didn't last long, though. I don't think the manufacturers thought Democrats could hit that hard...

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:54 PM

34. You're my kind of freedomofspeecher!

K & R!

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:23 PM

36. Good for you!!!

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:32 PM

37. They have the Shirt Outlet on Liberty. I've met the owners.

Let's just say that they are as dumb as their t-shirts. Husband thinks he is a performer. Wife thinks she is a writer. They sell crap to the tourists but don't understand why the Cape May old money crowd shuns them.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:30 AM

43. Catalog Favorites (PO Box 3335, Chelmsford, MA 01824-0935) has that too

Also a couple of anti-Obama clocks and T-shirts. I would not find this objectionable if they also had similar material for Republicans, but they don't.

http://www.catalogfavorites.com/
Place Orders: 1-800-221-1133
Customer Service: 1-877-754-7430

http://www.catalogfavorites.com/CustomerService.aspx?p=lbContactUs


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Response to eridani (Reply #43)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 07:48 AM

47. I used to get their catalog...

but I called their 1-800 number and had my name removed from their mailing list just for that reason.

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Response to eridani (Reply #43)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:54 PM

63. AND they never did have anti-Bush stuff

I'm actually okay with anti-Obama stuff, so long as the place also sells anti-Romney stuff or sold anti-Bush stuff 4 years ago.

I've written Catalog Favorites about this, and told them I would stop buying from them. The quality of their stuff is also dipping down into Spenser Gifts territory - lots of toilet and fart humor and more trashy stuff, but I didn't mention that.

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Response to eridani (Reply #43)

Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:20 PM

88. If you search, you will also find Democrat items also. n/t

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:44 AM

45. Several years ago

(2004) I was looking to buy two good futons for my family room. I wanted to do business with a local and not a large furniture store and found 2 locally-owned stores that carried futons. The first one was really close to my house. I walked in and while I was looking around I saw a Kerry punching bag prominently displayed. Now, I REALLY didn't like Kerry (I was a Dean supporter) but I walked up to the person behind the counter and asked him if he was the manager. He told me he was the owner. I told him that I was in the market to buy two futons, two mattresses, the pillows and the covers that day but because of his offensive punching bag I'd be taking my business elsewhere. I also told him that it was a really stupid move as he was in danger of alienating 1/2 his potential customers. You don't even have to go to business school to figure that one out. I ended up buying it from another store much farther away from my house. Iirc I spent about $1500 that day.

Of course the sad news is that the company that I bought from didn't survive the economic downturn. Mr. Punching Bag did.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:05 AM

49. You rock!




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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 09:52 AM

51. I did something similar at a store in my town

I live near Annapolis, MD. A pet store in the shopping center where we do our food shopping sells hemp bedding for small animals. I have 3 rats, so go through a fair amount of bedding. I've tried it all - recycled newspaper, corn cob - but found that the hemp did the best at odor controlling. Over the summer the store was enlarged and remodeled and one day I was doing some grocery shopping, realized that I needed bedding and walked over to the pet store to get it. When I got to the counter, the clerk was busy helping a customer, so I waited. While waiting I had a chance to look at the magnets for cars. Along with the usual "I my Bichon Frise." and "Great Danes are great!" were a couple that really bothered me. They said things like "My dog is a Republican too.", "My mutt is smarter than your president." and "Republicans Rule! Democrats Drool!". There were no similar signs for Democrats, although admittedly the "My Mutt" sign could be considered non-partisan. The other customer completed their transaction as I was finishing reading the signs and the clerk indicated he was ready to help me. I put my bag of hemp bedding on the counter, told him that I was appalled by the sign selection and would not be purchasing anything today or ever if that was the store owner's philosophy. The clerk just shrugged. I told him that the next time he saw the owner or manager he should mention that a customer had decided not to patronize their store, even though it was the only one in the area that sold a product she liked, because of their partisan politics. I really do miss that hemp bedding, but not enough to go back to that store.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #54)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:53 PM

59. Amazon! I should have thought -

I can't thank you enough!

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:14 AM

53. LOL!

 

Freedom of speech cuts both ways.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:26 AM

56. I would expect that in Cape May - NJ is not as "blue" as you think

Cape May is very gentrified with very high end condos and hotels and stores to match. I'd be willing to bet that the patrons of those stores are likely to be Republican. I'd also like to point out that the blue part of NJ is mostly in the northeast part of the state. Cape May is as far as you can get from those areas (3.5 hours driving from Bergen County in the extreme northeast) and in a part of the state that is solid red.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:20 PM

61. Ack, it cuts both ways.

I am fortunate to work for a progressive-minded company. We publish books and related children's products.

In 2009, we came out with a "Welcome to the White House" play set that has paper dolls of the President, First Lady, and various other figures (WH has strict prohibitions on depictions of Malia and Sasha, btw). They have different outfits to wear and the book opens to three scenes of the White House. It's accompanied by an informative children's book about the White House. So it's not a piece of junk.

We have a customer who stops by our booth at every goddamn trade show. "You still selling that Obama thing?" "Yes." "I'm never buying from you again." "Oh, well."

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:16 PM

65. I had a Bush chew toy for my dog in 2004

and gave them to friends I knew with dogs. I'm sure if the GOP knew about that they would think them disgraceful.

If that had been a Bush punching bag in a window in 2000-2008 I would have laughed.

Good for the goose.....

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:59 PM

66. Would you have felt the same if it had been a Bush punching bag?

I doubt it. You are free to shop wherever you want to, but why the hissy fit? I would only have complained to the staff if it had portrayed something truly offensive (racist or overtly sexist). Otherwise, it's freedom of speech.



For the record, I once bought an anti Bush T-shirt in Provincetown, Cape Cod that I only dared to wear in certain areas.


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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 10:10 PM

73. Grow up.

Hissey fit? Really? Over a toy? Wow. Childish.

What would you do if it were a Bush punching bag?

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 12:37 AM

74. Spoiled children throw hissy fits, adults make civil complaints.

Since the store owner is probably a Republican he likely enjoyed seeing you lose your cool. He might have listened to a civil complaint - maybe.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:55 AM

81. No offense to you, "Freedomofspeech", but

Geez what a stupid thread! Who gives a shit?

Greenland is melting, Mitt Romney & Paul Ryan are trying their best to dismantle medicare and widen the gap between rich and poor, endangered species are going extinct, there are millions of sex slaves around the world, oh let's see, what else... you name it.

People instead devote their attention to political novelty gags, and who is a hypocrite about it. Get a grip, people.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:05 AM

82. I avoid that type of store like the plague

It lowers my intelligence to just go inside and look at the inane trash they sell.

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Response to marshall (Reply #82)

Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:41 PM

85. ........

 

Wah, wah-wah, wah....wah.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:45 PM

86. My daughter who is in the Coast Guard

is stationed at Cape May. I will relay this to her and she can pass it on to her Coastie people.

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Response to Corgigal (Reply #86)

Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:35 PM

89. I attended Boot Camp in Cape May,

It didn't seem too bad, but of course I never got off the base!

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Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Reply #89)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:03 AM

91. Oh it's not

She lives in Wildwood now, where it hops all summer long. She loves it.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:50 PM

87. Maybe take a chill pill...

 

Proud of acting like a spoiled little brat? What ever happened to civility? To simply stating your point of view?

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Response to blissedsadge (Reply #87)

Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:58 PM

90. blissedsadge is no longer with us.

Went to the Big Chill.

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