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It depends, if it is bigotry against an unpopular group that has no political clout within the Democratic Party it should be allowed. If it is bigotry against a group popular within Democratic circles that has political clout within the Democratic Party - then it should not be allowed | |
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renie408
(9,854 posts)Whatever it is, just say it. The coy poll is, well, coy.
Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)renie408
(9,854 posts)slampoet
(5,032 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts).
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Although I think is really to be decided case by case. Different people have different definitions of bigotry.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)fantastic IMO!
Broadbrush denigrations against entire groups are not allowed (subject to the decision of jury) on DU for good reason.
If they were we would spend our entire time arguing with freepers just trying to get back to principles that have been accepted for a long time.
Everyone is equal, we are all individuals.
Even if we are part of a group, whether it be christians, muslims, hindus, atheists, the overweight, smokers, gamers or whatever we should never be judged as a group (unless that group has all specifically and explicity signed up for the thing that is being criticized, e.g. Republican pols and the Grover Norquist tax pledge).
UTUSN
(70,762 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)One could substitute any word descriptive of some unpleasant trait and make a poll of it.
Should pride be welcomed on DU?
Should wrath be welcomed on DU?
Should gluttony be welcomed on DU?
Should lust be welcomed on DU?
Should envy be welcomed on DU?
Should sloth be welcomed on DU?
Should greed be welcomed on DU?
Should poor taste in interior design be welcomed on DU?
Put 'em together and what have you got? Bigoty bogity boo.
tama
(9,137 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)and is strong dislike, say, of blue dog dems, really bigotry? I don't think so.
Here's what I think: Bigotry rooted in gender, in religion, sexual orientation (and no, pedophaelia doesn't count), in race or ethnicity or religion, should most decidedly not be tolerated here.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)the top my of my list to be bigoted against.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)rbnyc
(17,045 posts)I admit, I have been spending much less time at DU lately just stopping by a couple times a week to glance the greatest threads and maybe browse the subject lines on the first page of GD. I assume that there have been threads recently that included some kind of blanket statements about some group. Maybe it was southerners, or Christians. Maybe it was the old pragmatic vs. idealistic Democrats debate. Maybe it was even republicans. At first glance, having deep history here, but again, having spent very little time here recently, it looks like this poll is kind of a rhetorical question meant to be a statement about such blanket statements.
In any case, I think it opens up a wider conversation. Most of us are here because were united in our opposition to a defined group of policies and the people who advance them. Does that mean we hate all republicans? For some people, the answer is yes. And republicans from the misguided, piss-water-beer-drinking, under-educated choad with the misspelled protest sign demonstrating against his own best interests (generalization) to the field of primary candidates trying to out-stupid each other in the lead-up to the RNC (specific) they really make it easy for us to hate them. Even so, I think we all have a right-wing father-in-law or sister or neighbor and we argue with that person, and that person drives us nuts, but we know that person is, in fact, a human being, and maybe we even love that person.
The point is, we have values. We have very important values. Many of these are under attack, and we have to spend tremendous energy advancing and defending our values. And the people who are attacking these values, they can be identified in groups, by region, by religion, by political affiliation, by sub-political affiliation. We can identify trends within these groups. We can say that many Southern Christians support teaching intelligent design in public schools. We can say that those who value pragmatism above all within the Democratic Party help to shift the center to the right. We can say that those who value principle above all make it hard to get things done. We can describe all kinds of trends among many different groups and we can discern what trends advance our values, and what trends endanger them?
I think theres no real way to answer this poll. We should be allowed to talk about each other. We have a huge population. Its impossible to have a cultural-political discussion without grouping and generalizing. And we should be allowed to judge.
We avoid descending into bigotry by remaining focused on the issues and the values, and resisting the temptation to dwell on the generalized groups of people whom we dont really know.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)This is a Meta thread.
I know Meta doesn't have polls, but the Admins probably have a reason for not including that feature in that forum.