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Take the poll. How much should the top 1% pay in taxes? (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 OP
that poll 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #1
I think it should rise with rising income. The top 1% isn't equivalent to the top .001 percent. pnwmom Aug 2012 #2
Now it's... KansDem Aug 2012 #3
That isn't what the question was asking. FBaggins Aug 2012 #5
Notice this isn't talking about a tax RATE ... ParkieDem Aug 2012 #4
Most people have no clue what constitutes "income" for the rich. RC Aug 2012 #6
90% on everything over 20 times the minimum wage. hunter Aug 2012 #7
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
1. that poll
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:04 PM
Aug 2012
The top 1% of filers* pay more than a third (37%) of all federal income taxes collected. What should they pay?


I wonder if the top 1% actually pay more than a third of all taxes collected, or should be paying a third (according to a straight up tax rate) before they all get the actual amount down to 13% with the loopholes they have gotten through congressional purchase?

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
2. I think it should rise with rising income. The top 1% isn't equivalent to the top .001 percent.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

The tax rates should begin above the highest rate of the 99%, and continue upwards, to a max of 75%.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
3. Now it's...
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

25%

But, you can look at it this way:

51% say "more than 30%"
49% say "30% or less"

What does Romney pay? 13%? Only 20% say 20% or less.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
5. That isn't what the question was asking.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:13 PM
Aug 2012

It confuses a personal tax rate (or in this case an effective tax rate), with what percentage of the whole (income) tax is paid by a certain group of people.

That's the wrong question. The one you answered is more relevant. What percentage of a person's income can society reasonably lay claim to?

ParkieDem

(494 posts)
4. Notice this isn't talking about a tax RATE ...
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:13 PM
Aug 2012

It's talking about the share of income taxes collected from each bracket.

E.g., the 1% might have an average tax rate of 12% or 50%, but could either way end up paying 37% of taxes collected. In this sense, it's difficult to come up with an amount they should have paid, because that number is dependent on an infinite number of variables.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
6. Most people have no clue what constitutes "income" for the rich.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:20 PM
Aug 2012

The question of what the top 1% should pay in taxes is too simple. Way too simple.
Most people think only of salary and wages, such as their own, the only difference is, the rich get more.
During the Eisenhower years, the top tax rate was 93% and the economy had never been better.
Well, guess what? The top 1% then never were in any danger of choosing between lunch and buss fare. That was only their salary/wages.
Most of their income came from stocks, bonds, investments, anything but salaries and wages.
We would be doing good to check out what both Eisenhower and Clinton did and do it again. We need to get to the root of the problem, not just diddle with simplistic 'solutions' like how much the rich should pay. It is much more complex than that.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
7. 90% on everything over 20 times the minimum wage.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:29 PM
Aug 2012

Minimum is what, $7.25 an hour now...

50 weeks X 40 hours X $7.25 = $14500 annual income

20 X $14500 = $290,000

So take away in taxes 90 cents of every dollar a person takes home after $290,000

Do you think $290,000 is too low?

Then fight to raise the minimum wage!

Do you think the 90% tax rate should start at a million dollars?

Then, by golly, let's make sure our minimum wage workers are taking home $50,000 a year.

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