Oh, lordy... The Freepers are discussing poverty tonight

[LuckyTheDog]

The thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920238/posts) responds to this post on The Hill's Congress blog: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/244141-poverty-takes-its-toll-on-life-expectancy

Some comments:

The article is about education:

“Overall, in a very short span, we’ve seen a widening gulf between those with the least and most education in America.”

It sounds like those egghead ivory-tower brainiac professors are saying their better then us!! See how they like it when we defund all Public Universities!

Liberals don't get it.
It's not education and health care. Those aren't the problems - it's drug use, gang deaths ( yes, those are averaged in to how long a group lives) and stupid life choices ( smoking, alcoholism, promiscuity etc) It's liberals making people dependent and broken... to secure cheap votes.

In a true free market, most people start their professional lives poor and end them rich. In this environment, a growing gap between rich and poor means the sky is the limit for people just entering the market place. It's a GOOD thing and means we're living in a wealthy country, not bad.

Only in countries where people are born into their class and are condemned to live out their lives in their caste is a big gap between rich and poor bad.

We've wasted bazillions of dollars on the "War on Poverty", and we now have the richest, best nourished poor people in the History of Man, we have the most expensive health care system on the planet, and as a nation, we rank #38 in life expectancy, behind Cuba.
So now it's education. "If we don’t create better education ladders for Americans to climb, we will find ourselves in a polarized country". We already have a polarized country! And there are plenty of education ladders, we just have waaaay too many people who want to be lifted by a crane because they're too fat and lazy to climb the abundant ladders that are readily available.

The kind of poverty we have in the US isn't the kind of poverty that more money will fix, so why even try?

[upaloopa]

1. Freepers live in a world that they invented in their minds and their discussions are nothing more

than attempt to get confirmation that what they think actually exists outside their minds.

[Ikonoklast]

2. It never ceases to amaze me that people like that don't drown in the shower.

The outright stupidity and willful ignorance is astonishing.

[Care Acutely]

11. +1

Perhaps if we could convince them that drowning in the shower is patriotic?

Come one! Come all! Show the muslin socialists what 'merica is all about AND get rich quick while you sleep! Lose weight without trying - - - - -

[gkhouston]

16. Well, you have to know how to turn the water on to be at risk. n/t

[dimbear]

3. The ten poorest US states are red states. 8 of the richest 10 are blue, one purple,

and the other is government-sucking Alaska.

[HiPointDem]

4. There's part of that that's correct. We *do* have the most expensive health care system &

other countries with 'poorer' ones get better results.

we *do* have a polarized country, on various levels.

'fixing' education (as high profile liberals -- and conservatives are pushing) *isn't* the answer -- it will make things worse again.

but -- the kind of poverty we have in this country is the kind of poverty that money -- in the form of more, better-paying jobs -- *would* fix, and has, historically.

the US is highly unequal & that's the root cause of most of its woes, as well as the world's.

[Historic NY]

5. That artifical cheese in the Cheetos is rotting thier brains.

[Incitatus]

6. Wealth disparity is a good thing?

I'm always learning something new from these people.

[Zalatix]

15. The EPA has no jurisdiction over their drinking water.

[oldhippydude]

7. money can't fix poverty

who would have known?

[girl gone mad]

9. Read all about it in..

"You Can't Put Out A Fire With Water and Tens of Other Things I Learned by Reading Free Republic and Occasionally Peering Out Of Mom's Basement Window"

[gordianot]

8. I love the quote "most start their professional lives poor and end them rich"

They have no idea what really being wealthy means, and the large numbers of the really wealthy that were never poor. Become wealthy enough and brag about 13% unspecified tax rate as if that is an honor. The wealth theme is their Achilles Heel and is why Romney became enraged when Obama suggested they did not do it alone. Boot straps are sometimes more expensive than the boots.

[quaker bill]

17. The truth is that most don't end up rich

I am a professional and I make alot more money than I did as a kid. I am well above median income. So, I have a little extra each month. I have some investments. I am doing just fine but I am not remotely close to rich. These folks do not understand what rich actually is these days. I could barely afford a rich man's usual collection of shoes, and if I bought a car that expensive, I would have to live in it.

[pacalo]

10. There you have it -- they are unable to grasp cause & effect of social problems.

Liberals don't get it.
It's not education and health care. Those aren't the problems - it's drug use, gang deaths ( yes, those are averaged in to how long a group lives) and stupid life choices ( smoking, alcoholism, promiscuity etc) It's liberals making people dependent and broken... to secure cheap votes.

Yes, we do get it. A good education is key to less drug abuse, gangs, smoking, alcoholism, & promiscuity. Having backs to the wall with no chance for prospects due to lack of an education is what causes desperate, anti-social behavior.

[JaneyVee]

12. Dear, Freepers:

[KG]

13. my fave quote from above

It sounds like those egghead ivory-tower brainiac professors are saying 'their' (sic) better then us!! See how they like it when we defund all Public Universities!

ignorance is a virtue to these morons...they're beyond reasoning with.

[TomClash]

14. Was the circle jerk cancelled?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes, health care costs are high because of the poor.