Romney just lost control of his campaign

[bushisanidiot]

I am watching A Romney rally on CNN and Ryan is doing all the talking. Romney is sitting in the corner wincing with a forced smile, looking like a whipped puppy. He did what the rncleadership commanded him to do and he knows any control he used to have is now owned by Grover nor quits and Paul Ryan.

[warrior1]

1. Same thing happened to McCain

[Curtland1015]

11. Yup, this is Palin II.

A VP's hardcore bent overshadowing his running mate.

[NotThisTime]

22. That's what I said yesterday....

[randome]

2. There is no leadership. No one is pulling the strings. Oh, there are many who THINK they are.

But Palin and then Romney and now Ryan? The GOP is lethargic and disorganized. Still hateful and envious of everyone else, of course, but they won't get as far with that as they once did.

[Justice wanted]

3. People think I am crazy for saying this BUT I honestly would not be surprise if we see the

Ticket flipped somehow during the convention.

[Ruby the Liberal]

4. His handlers needed him to STFU before he offended anyone else.

So now, they are going to try to repaint him as the quiet, introspectful, business "genius".

How did that Abraham Lincoln quote go? It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt?

[Generic Brad]

5. That ship sailed on his foreign policy junket

The fool has spoken.

[Ruby the Liberal]

7. And Ryan brings NOTHING to the table on foreign policy!

Rmoney is running on his 'business' background, so he picked someone that doubles down on trickle down? My mind is still blown over this choice. I would have bet hard cold cash against Ryan over someone who can shore up areas where Rmoney has even failed his own base (and trickle down is the one thing they do approve of).

Its Palin 2.0 - red meat to shore up the base that he should have had by default. Here's hoping history repeats itself on that strategy.

[Blecht]

32. Lincoln probably said that right after he said this:

You Can’t Believe Most of the Quotes You Read On the Internet.
-Abraham Lincoln

Here's one place where the source of the quote you use is discussed: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/17/remain-silent/

No offense intended. It doesn't matter to me where it came from -- the way you used it fits perfectly.

It just bugs me when more noise is added to the already low signal-to-noise ratio for information on quotes.

[HooptieWagon]

41. Quote sounds more like Mark Twain...

doesn't sound like Lincoln... Might be wrong though.

Edit: link from post above sheds light. Exact quote appears to be from a book authored by Maurice Switzer in 1907, but sayings of a similar vein go all the way back to Proverbs.

[Ruby the Liberal]

42. It has been attributed to half a dozen people over the years.

[maddezmom]

6. McCain II

Ryan is going to go rogue like Palin, but with the RNC and RW'ers blessing.

[part man all 86]

8. Ryan will be just as incompetent. He will not be able to strongarm people questioning his lies.

[demwing]

10. Ryan has several more years political experience than Palin

and has fought for and won his seat several times over in less than friendly territory.

In short, he is not the idiot gift that was Sarah Palin.

But no sweat on that, because Ryan is another type of gift. Team Obama has been working to link Romney to the Ryan plan - mission accomplished.

Thanks Romney, you're making this fun!

[Blecht]

34. Who is actually going to question him?

That's not the media's function. They're there to prop up and legitimize him.

[rocktivity]

9. Romney never HAD control of his campaign

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It's been scripted by Norquist and Co. since Day One.

Mitt may have thought he didn't have to answer to anyone because the polls were close, especially with independent voters. But between his "ugly American" Olympics jaunt and losing his independent edge by refusing to show his tax returns, he is now trailing, and NOT by a cheatproof margin. That's why he has to jump through their hoops now: accepting delivery on VP Paul Ryan is just the beginning...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=9722

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1110732



rocktivity

[sadbear]

12. And that's how the Obama campaign should approach the stretch run.

Ignore Rmoney completely. Make like he's irrelevant, just a figurehead not worthy of even mentioning. Go after Ryan and the teabaggers who installed him on ticket. Make this about Ryan, whose budget now defines the Rmoney campaign.

[coalition_unwilling]

20. Ding! Ding! Ding! Who knows, Obama might even grow some coat-tails for down-ballot

races if he can hang the Ryan plan like an albatross around the necks of the Repig party.

No offense to albatross(es) or the ornithologists who study them

[SecularMotion]

24. Wrong

We can run a campaign on 2 fronts. I think one factor in picking Ryan for VP candidate was to take the heat off Rmoney for awhile.

I say keep the pressure on Rmoney about Bain and tax returns while applying heat to Ryan over his budget plan..

[coalition_unwilling]

35. I think I'm getting euphoric in this target-rich environment, such that I agree with you 1000% and

do not agree that we should take the focus off Romney. Not for one second. My euphoria seeing someone focus on the Ryan plan inadvertently led to my giving that impression. But I'm with you.

[SecularMotion]

36. Thanks for reply

Actually, I meant to reply to post above yours.



I agree it is a target-rich environment.

[Motown_Johnny]

13. The male Sarah Palin. Young and good looking with little experience and

little more than an ideologue.

This one may actually read a newspaper now and then and he will be better handled, after that last disaster, but they are far more similar than they are different.

Oh, and this one has a paper trail know as "The Ryan Budget".

Man these people are bad at picking candidates.

[Fawke Em]

39. Good looking?

I think he looks creepy.

[Motown_Johnny]

40. Compared to other Conservatives?

My position on this matter has evolved somewhat. Now I consider him "Palin with a penis".

[Grammy23]

43. Speaking as a female....

This punk (Ryan) is sorta good lookin' in a boyish sort of way. Not saying he is god's gift or anything. Just that he does have a certain boyish good looks. No secret why that matters to the Repubs. They are hoping to lure in young folks, especially the young WOMEN into their tent....purely on his looks. ('Cause if they spend two seconds looking at their policies, they will run like the dickens in the other direction.) But that boyish charm might get their attention.

And yeah, I know about the Eddie Munster thing....but the ladies they are appealing to probably don't know who that is.

[Justice wanted]

14. Ladies and Gentlemen Expect more of this. Do they keep Romney as a PUPPET President

OR do we see something crazy at the convention where the ticket is flipped WHY would Norquist want a puppet who might grow a spine and actually take control of the White House like Bush did the last few months of the Cheney "presidency" when you can have Ryan in the chair.

[CoffeeCat]

23. The problem for the Republicans is that at least Bush Jr...

...was electable. He could form complete sentences and not end each sentence with a forced, plastic, broad smile that looks like he's constipated. OMFG...Romney is so inept it is jarring.

Bush Junior could talk with people, give a speech or handle walking into a diner or a coffee shop--and making small talk. Yes, he had his major screw ups--but generally he could walk upright without shitting himself.

Romney cannot do any of that. I think the man is coming unglued at the seams. The pressure of being hounded about his tax returns, and his two-week international trip from Hades has stressed him to the max.

I think the Ryan announcement was made because they had no choice. Romney is unraveling.

[jwirr]

15. The gop has not had a candidate since raygun that was in control of his campaign or the government

if he got elected. Corporations are in total control when we elect rethugs.

[DBoon]

28. I would say since Nixon

and the Nixon experience taught them that a simple, compliant idiot is better than a smart skilled politician.

Hence the reign of Reagan

[jwirr]

38. Exactly.

[Tom Ripley]

16. That's really going to dispel the wimp perception

[MoonRiver]

17. I had exactly the same impression.

And Ryan, just like Palin was, is running to be first on the NEXT Rethug presidential ticket.

[DonCoquixote]

18. Do not be so sure of Ryan just using this as 2016 prep

the truth is, if Mitt were to die in office, champagne would be popped, and Grover knows it.

[sadbear]

19. I know the right likes to say this a lot (and they've been thoroughly disproven) but,

Paul Ryan would be in way over his head as president. He's a budget guy, and THAT'S IT. There's nothing else to him, other than his weird, childish preoccupation with objectivism.

[CoffeeCat]

21. Do these monkeys not realize that this further WEAKENS Romeny???

You can put Ryan front and center all you like. Romney is at the top of the ticket.

If Romney looks weak compared to Ryan, then well--ROMENY LOOKS WEAK!

These idiots do not understand anything about running a campaign and they sure as hell are oblivious to reality.

"Hi I'm Mitt Romney and I cannot give a speech, form complete thoughts or get through a day without behaving like a total toolbag. So, I'm going to just sit here like an idiot while my running mate takes the reigns."

Yeah. What a brilliant strategy. Weaken Romney even further.

[flamingdem]

25. Rmoney doesn't give a shit what Ryan does, he just wants to WIN

at all costs. Plus, he knows there's big bucks in the Koch connection via Ryan

[WillyT]

26. As Intended... Did You Catch This ???

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021115609





& Rec !!!

[Berlum]

27. Willard gave this wackoid his jacket, called him "the next President" and then...

solidified his underling role with his Chickenhawk-in-kind pall, Ryyyanne

[liberal N proud]

29. Grover and the Koch Brothers

[Odin2005]

30. He was always supposed to be an empty suit, just like Chimpy.

Grover said they just want a figurehead to sign the Teabagger crap into law, and Mitt's the man.

Romney's Freudian Slip calling Ryan the next President is telling.

[cleduc]

31. Norquist's Puppet

[SoCalDem]

33. Yeppers.. he got "McCained"

He was "given" X-amount of time to get it together, and of course time ran out, so they picked a "minder" for him..

he is the hand that would sign the legislation..

Republicans have had a pyramid of power for a while now.. The top piece is a screw-on/interchangeable piece. The support under the top-piece is run by the Adelsons/Kochs/etc, and the lobbyists/industries who own the party..

The only thing they need is for every few years, to have the "faithful" get all juiced up over guns, gods, gays or abortion..and then to run to the voting booth to keep the libruls from takin' over..

[gkhouston]

37. It's a long time 'til November.

Given how many times Romney's put his foot in his mouth, I don't see him playing silent second fiddle for the rest of the campaign.

[progressivebydesign]

44. Is Romney OKAY? Curious about his health records...

"Sitting down" at a rally?? Taking time off for exhaustion?


OR.. are they going to use this as an excuse why Romney is gonna bow out??? hate to be a conspiracy theorist type, but what if they're working this to say that Romney is ill, and Ryan is taking over?

On the flip side, people voting for Romney better be very very happy with Ryan, if it seems that Romney is not up to this job physically.