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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 04:57 PM Aug 2012

Morning Joe's lineup for Monday should be interesting

Wes Clark, Jeffrey Sachs and Ezra Klein will be in attendance...

Sachs will do his "thing" with charts and DESTROY Ryan. Clark's take will be quite interesting since we haven't seen him much on the teevee. Ezra as always will be whip smart.

Joe will probably talk about how lovely the Ryan family is and how Ryan knows how Washington works. We'll get the full monty of repuke talking points from him and we'll be all set...

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Morning Joe's lineup for Monday should be interesting (Original Post) CTyankee Aug 2012 OP
I don't plan on watching. TexasTowelie Aug 2012 #1
Ezra put out a few interesting pieces about Ryan today: Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #2
dems have to hammer Ryan on those inconsistencies that Ezra talks about. CTyankee Aug 2012 #3
I am a fan of his articles. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #4
Oh, I hope so. I fear we are going to get a lot of Joe's "beautiful family" stuff about Ryan and CTyankee Aug 2012 #5
Not me! Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #6
Go for it, Ruby! You are a treasure! CTyankee Aug 2012 #7

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
2. Ezra put out a few interesting pieces about Ryan today:
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 05:07 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-isnt-a-deficit-hawk-hes-a-conservative-reformer/

Some excerpts:

To the extent that voters know anything about Paul Ryan — and the humbling truth for those of us inside the Beltway, where Ryan is a household name, is that most of them don’t — they probably know him as an ardent deficit hawk who is unusually fearless when it comes to cutting government spending.

Both impressions speak to a central misconception about Ryan’s policy interests: He is not primarily interested in reducing the deficit or cutting federal spending. He has voted to increase deficits and expand government spending too many times for that to be the case. Rather, the common thread throughout his career is his desire to remake the basic architecture of the the federal government. But the confusion persists because, while Ryan’s policy chops are well known, the specifics of his policies are not.

...

The truth is that the Ryan budget’s largest long-term savings don’t come from Medicaid or Medicare or Social Security, or even Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security put together. They come from everything else. Ryan says that under his budget, everything the federal government does that is not Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security will be cut to less than 3.75 percent of GDP by 2050. That means defense, infrastructure, education, food safety, energy research, national parks, civil service, the FBI — all of it. Right now, that category of spending is 12.5 percent of GDP.


And this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-will-be-mitt-romneys-vice-presidential-pick-heres-seven-thoughts-on-what-that-means/

1. Both Democrats and conservatives are going to get the exact debate they wanted. I’m not so sure about Republicans.

2. This is an admission of fear from the Romney campaign. You don’t make a risky pick like Paul Ryan if you think the fundamentals favor your candidate. You make a risky pick like Paul Ryan if you think the fundamentals don’t favor your candidate. And, right now, the numbers don’t look good for Romney: Obama leads in the Real Clear Politics average of polls by more than four percentage points — his largest lead since April.

3. Related point: Two of the top contenders in the Romney campaign’s veepstakes were Ohio’s Rob Portman and Florida’s Marco Rubio. Given that there’s fairly good evidence that vice presidential candidates are worth at least a point or two in their home states, the Romney campaign’s decision to pick Ryan is evidence that they feel they need to change the national dynamic, not just pick off a battleground state.

4. Romney’s original intention was to make the 2012 election a referendum on President Obama’s management of the economy. Ryan makes it a choice between two competing plans for deficit reduction. This election increasingly resembles the Obama campaign’s strategy rather than the Romney campaign’s strategy.


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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. dems have to hammer Ryan on those inconsistencies that Ezra talks about.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

Ryan quite simply has not been a deficit hawk when Bush was president. He bends with the political wind. He is responsible for those votes. They are part of the record. It's just as simple as that...

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
4. I am a fan of his articles.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 05:14 PM
Aug 2012

*IF* they let him get 2 words in on Monday, I think he will present some salient points.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
5. Oh, I hope so. I fear we are going to get a lot of Joe's "beautiful family" stuff about Ryan and
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:15 PM
Aug 2012

that will attempt to drown out Ryan's real message.

But, GAME ON! The Dems are more than up to it! Axe and the Chicago team have this thing so we can chill the f*** out............right?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
6. Not me!
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:24 PM
Aug 2012

This selection has me more amped than ever to get on the phones and knock doors.

I was ambivalent about it, but not now. This is the most thrilling election in my lifetime. For the first time in memory, all of the abortion/gay marriage RW pearl clutchers will be SCHOOLED on what they been voting into office as social hostages of the maniacal right.

I. Can't. Wait.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. Go for it, Ruby! You are a treasure!
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:35 PM
Aug 2012

I think there are more just like you and you will all be powerful come Election Day!

Go Obama!

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