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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMorning Joe's lineup for Monday should be interesting
Wes Clark, Jeffrey Sachs and Ezra Klein will be in attendance...
Sachs will do his "thing" with charts and DESTROY Ryan. Clark's take will be quite interesting since we haven't seen him much on the teevee. Ezra as always will be whip smart.
Joe will probably talk about how lovely the Ryan family is and how Ryan knows how Washington works. We'll get the full monty of repuke talking points from him and we'll be all set...
TexasTowelie
(112,329 posts)I usually go to bed after the am 420.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Some excerpts:
Both impressions speak to a central misconception about Ryans policy interests: He is not primarily interested in reducing the deficit or cutting federal spending. He has voted to increase deficits and expand government spending too many times for that to be the case. Rather, the common thread throughout his career is his desire to remake the basic architecture of the the federal government. But the confusion persists because, while Ryans policy chops are well known, the specifics of his policies are not.
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The truth is that the Ryan budgets largest long-term savings dont come from Medicaid or Medicare or Social Security, or even Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security put together. They come from everything else. Ryan says that under his budget, everything the federal government does that is not Medicare, Medicaid or Social Security will be cut to less than 3.75 percent of GDP by 2050. That means defense, infrastructure, education, food safety, energy research, national parks, civil service, the FBI all of it. Right now, that category of spending is 12.5 percent of GDP.
And this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-will-be-mitt-romneys-vice-presidential-pick-heres-seven-thoughts-on-what-that-means/
2. This is an admission of fear from the Romney campaign. You dont make a risky pick like Paul Ryan if you think the fundamentals favor your candidate. You make a risky pick like Paul Ryan if you think the fundamentals dont favor your candidate. And, right now, the numbers dont look good for Romney: Obama leads in the Real Clear Politics average of polls by more than four percentage points his largest lead since April.
3. Related point: Two of the top contenders in the Romney campaigns veepstakes were Ohios Rob Portman and Floridas Marco Rubio. Given that theres fairly good evidence that vice presidential candidates are worth at least a point or two in their home states, the Romney campaigns decision to pick Ryan is evidence that they feel they need to change the national dynamic, not just pick off a battleground state.
4. Romneys original intention was to make the 2012 election a referendum on President Obamas management of the economy. Ryan makes it a choice between two competing plans for deficit reduction. This election increasingly resembles the Obama campaigns strategy rather than the Romney campaigns strategy.
(10 points in all)
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Ryan quite simply has not been a deficit hawk when Bush was president. He bends with the political wind. He is responsible for those votes. They are part of the record. It's just as simple as that...
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)*IF* they let him get 2 words in on Monday, I think he will present some salient points.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)that will attempt to drown out Ryan's real message.
But, GAME ON! The Dems are more than up to it! Axe and the Chicago team have this thing so we can chill the f*** out............right?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)This selection has me more amped than ever to get on the phones and knock doors.
I was ambivalent about it, but not now. This is the most thrilling election in my lifetime. For the first time in memory, all of the abortion/gay marriage RW pearl clutchers will be SCHOOLED on what they been voting into office as social hostages of the maniacal right.
I. Can't. Wait.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I think there are more just like you and you will all be powerful come Election Day!
Go Obama!