How quickly they change their minds..Found in our little rightwing local rag:

[Frosty1]

Orchids: For the new health care that we have. I never thought much about it before. Our son, a student at UMD, slipped and fell on ice. He broke his arm and cracked his head. He was overnight at the hospital. When we got the bill, my hair stood on end. Thank God, Obamacare lets us keep our children on our insurance until 26. There would have been no way we could have paid the bill and keep our son in college. So now, I am not for repealing it. I didn't know what was in it, and that our family would need it so much. Merry Christmas to you, ours will be.

http://www.virginiamn.com/opinion/orchids_and_onions/article_b22b1c6e-3363-11e1-9a86-001871e3ce6c.html

[Betty Karlson]

1. Just in time, the minds start changing

I'm cautiously optimistic that folks like these will hand Obama his second term.

[Frosty1]

17. Me too!

[Jackpine Radical]

2. As long as they thought that OTHERS might be the major beneficiaries, they opposed it.

This seems to be typical of right-wingers--they go all out for a given charity cause (cancer, diabetes, whatever) only after it affects THEM in some personal way.

I attribute this phenomenon to their inability to have true empathy for others--they just can't imagine themselves in someone else's shoes until they actually find themselves there.

[sinkingfeeling]

6. +1 A very acturate assessment.

[PA Democrat]

8. Exactly! I call it the "It's all about ME" mindset.

[hifiguy]

16. Yep. Pathological narcissism is so very

Republican.

[Frosty1]

18. Isn't that the truth!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

35. yep.

You can say that again....they're only interested their own problems. Tribal mentality.

[Surya Gayatri]

37. +1,000 ! n/t

[Old and In the Way]

3. "I didn't know what was in it, and that our family would need it so much."

I imagine most who oppose it don't know what was in it and, until they benefit from it, they'll continue to believe the republican talking points on HCR.

[Frosty1]

19. Even then some of them won't admit it.

[Surya Gayatri]

38. Yeah, I'm surprised this one

had the integrity to admit it openly.

But then, "Obamacare" did save her a shitload of money. That's all that counts in her twisted ideology.

Compassion and concern for others has nothing to do with it. SG

[Proud Liberal Dem]

40. You have to start somewhere

In my vocation (Social Work), one of our principles is "starting where the client is". Maybe that is what we need to do with Republicans?

[Surya Gayatri]

50. You do have a point, PLD--maybe they need

to be dealt with like the psycho-social cases they are.
Perhaps their mental derangement needs to be treated like a social disease.
Gratuitous had a similar idea here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002110450#post15

[tblue37]

30. They believe the Republican talking points on *everything*, because they

never bother to actually learn anything themselves. That takes time and mental effort.

[JohnnyRingo]

4. This is why Republicans wanted to kill it before it became enacted.

Just like Social Security and Medicare, after people begin enjoying the benefits, it's harder (if not impossible) to take away.

[Frosty1]

20. My only worry is the Supreme court ruling against it.

I think that case is still pending?

[JohnnyRingo]

29. That is a concern, but it only represents one part of it.

The individual mandate is what opponents claim to be unconstitutional. The entire Affordable Care Ammendment isn't on the line because of the way it was filed in court.
The law can still stand without that part, but some substitution will have to be added to make the plan work.

Without the IM young people who are healthy will likey not want to participate until serious health issues arise. By then their medical bills will outweigh the contributions made by others. It'd be like making Social Security voluntary until people feel like paying in, then giving full benefits upon reaching 65.

I'm confident smart people are already at work on "plan B", because there's no way Obama will want to sacrifice what many feel will be the lasting legacy of his presidency.

[joshcryer]

44. It's easy enough to fix the mandate, bring in a public option.

[GoCubsGo]

48. They won't kill it.

It's too much of a big hand-out to their corporate cronies in the insurance industry. But, I have to imagine how this will torture Fat Tony and his band of merry assholes. They'll have to choose between corporate profits and making President Obama look bad. The money and corporations will win in the end, as they always do with these treasonous bastards.

[Surya Gayatri]

39. Bingo, ringo! n/t

[joshcryer]

42. Exactly!

[Ecumenist]

5. This is the second rightwinger who has come out in apublic way for the healthcare

program President Obama instituted. Funny about that Obamacare when they need it huh?

[Frosty1]

21. Only the second?

I'll bet a lot more are reaping the benefits and not saying anything about it.

[Ecumenist]

33. That I know of....I should have said that

[SpiralHawk]

7. Righties have to eat the Republicon BS when the face real life

...and discover that America stands behind it's citizens,
and that the Republicon Billionaire Propaganda Machine
has been consistently lying to them.

[Frosty1]

22. Somehow I just can't see that happening.

[PA Democrat]

9. A right wing relative was lamenting the fact that his son would soon not have health insurance

since he was no longer a full-time student and the son's employer did not offer an affordable plan. This guy relies on FOX for all his news. I said, didn't you know that the new health insurance law allows you to keep him on YOUR plan through the age of 26?


He never garnered that helpful piece of info from FOX News. I wonder how many other FOX News viewers are not taking advantage of this?

[Ecumenist]

12. Can you imagine what they're going to feel when they find out they've paid

big money when they didn't have to?

[CTyankee]

13. Funny, isn't it?

Maybe he will realize that Fox news ain't so great and maybe, just maybe, he's not getting information he vitally needs...

[Frosty1]

23. Fox treats people like mushrooms

keep them in the dark and feed them shit!

[Surya Gayatri]

41. Bwaaaaahaaaaa! DUZY!

Come to think of it, most of their core audience look a lot like mushrooms --pale, pasty, and stunted. SG

[SCantiGOP]

10. well worth a kick

[Frosty1]

24. Thanks

[Capitalocracy]

11. Like Megyn Kelly on maternity leave...

they will only be in favor when they actually receive the benefits themselves. If then.

[Frosty1]

25. So true

[lpbk2713]

14. You mean Limbaugh and all the other RW Media Hatemongers were wrong!!!11!

Heresy!!





How quickly they flip-flop when reality bites them in the ass.

[Frosty1]

26. I would be more surprised if they were ever right!

[gratuitous]

15. Their son couldn't pull up his bootstraps with a broken arm and a cracked skull?

Who could have ever foreseen?

I suppose it's "in" to snark at such "yea, the scales fell from my eyes" letters, but it's really one of the only ways we will carry this conversation with large segments of our society. There are still millions of folks in our country who think that it's only other people who get sick or hurt.

[Frosty1]

27. LOL you make a good point.

[barbtries]

28. i was against it

when i didn't know anything about it but that the president wanted it, and democrats were for it.

pffft

[BlancheSplanchnik]

36. excellent translation, there.

That's the truth behind the socially acceptable excuses

[joshcryer]

45. I was against it when pundits fearmongered and told me it was horrible.

Now I'm for it!

[TwilightGardener]

62. Exactly.

[spanone]

31. they hated it before they loved it....unbridled ignorance

[leftyohiolib]

32. it's always this way, f-inf idiots

[Kablooie]

34. And then there are those on Medicare and SS who want to repeal Medicare and SS. Just not their's.

How much can *I* get for me without giving anything to anyone else.

[MarkCharles]

43. We just need another 10 million 20 year old children of ..

Republicans to break their arm or wind up in the hospital overnight.

Then the Republican politicians can kiss their political careers goodbye.

<sarcasm>

But honestly, that's the only way Republicans learn anything, as so many here have said, Republicans and Fox News just don't bother with the facts.

[joshcryer]

46. Thank you for this, Frosty1. I completely missed this OP. I'm so glad you posted it.

It is a horrible shame that so many people benefit from health care reform but some will bash it without thinking of the consequences for very many people. Personal responsibility means we are all in this together, not just the rich elites and privileged who won't be affected if health care is demolished just because it's not perfect.

[Frosty1]

57. You are most welcome.

Are you a "Northerner" also?

[surfdog]

47. What a selfish bitch

Thats how these idiots operate , fuck Obamacare and all the people it could help , unless they personally need it.

[GoCubsGo]

49. It's how they are.

Not to mention grossly ignorant. "I didn't know what was in it, yet I was against it." Typical. It's how they are with environmental and other regulations, too. Look how the repugs in Nebraska cheered on the oil sludge pipeline--until they found out it was crossing their water supply.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

51. No different than Newt Gingrich crying

Newt is now a big supporter of research into brain disorders, because he was personally moved by his mother's ailment.

Research into other areas of health, not so much. Putting money into expanding health care, naw. Those things don't affect Newt "personally" (or don't immediately add to his personal wealth), so they should be reduced or eliminated.

"All politics is local."
- Tip O'Neill

[Frosty1]

56. Isn't that the truth!

[Javaman]

52. "I didn't know what was in it"

And that single statement says it all about repukes.

[perdita9]

53. As long as it benefits ME, I'm for it

But if it only benefits OTHER people, then screw it.

That's the Republican mantra.

[mstinamotorcity]

54. That is because

its easier to go along with the familiar talking points than find out the truth. Most of the Republicans I talk to listen to their elected leaders and do no investigation on their own. The republicans count on ignorance to push their agenda. they get fed a complete right wing diet. With all the Fox and Limpdick trimmings.
They act as if they did not know that they were paying more in co-pays and medical cost with health care insurance. The Tea party would rant about they did not want Government coming in between them and their doctors. But it was okay for the Insurance companies to come between them and their doctors. They would say how do they come in between me and my doctors thats not true. And I always tell them the facts, If your doctor prescribes a medication that is not covered on your health insurance, you must pay or choose another medication that may or may not be what your doctor really wants you to take. If he wants a specialized treatment, it may not be covered. You must pay!!!! Which leads to the question, if I am paying for health care why can't I get Health care. And before the Affordable Care Act Health care cost were one sixth of the american weekly paycheck. By 2020 the cost would be one third of the American paycheck. If you are giving up one third of your check to health care cost, would you have to give up groceries for medication? Would you give your home payments? Bills? Clothing? These are the choices that every day Americans were having to make with and without insurance, to stay healthy.

[Corruption Winz]

55. So.. all we have to do is get these idiots to slip on some ice...

It's winter time.. and I got at least three cups of water. I'll do what I can.

[Frosty1]

58. You are devious!

LOL

[notadmblnd]

59. hopefully that statement will transfer into a democratic vote in the future.

[Motown_Johnny]

60. Stripping these benefits is political suicide

Not only the 2.5 million young adults (and their parent/s) who now have coverage, but also the seniors who had fallen into the "doughnut hole" for and now have their drug costs reduced.


I hope they try, it is political suicide.

[Frosty1]

61. Yes it would be political suicide.

but...are they smart enough to recognize it?