MittWitt just now: "Categorically, I have paid taxes every year and a lot of taxes, a lot of taxes"

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Romney rips Reid, says he's paid 'a lot of taxes'
By Cameron Joseph - 08/03/12 01:14 PM ET

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/242125-romney-rips-harry-reid-says-hes-paid-a-lot-of-taxes-every-year

Mitt Romney said he has "paid taxes every year, and a lot of taxes" when asked about Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) recent accusations that he hadn't paid any.

"Categorically, I have paid taxes every year and a lot of taxes, a lot of taxes, so Harry is wrong," Romney said when asked about Reid's recent comments. "Harry Reid really has to put up or shut up... I understand what you're trying to do. You're trying to deflect the fact that the job numbers are bad, Americans are out of work."


Romney ripped Reid and President Obama for a series of "misleading, false attacks" — though when asked why he wouldn't release more years of tax returns to prove Reid wrong, he dodged.
"You can go on our website and you can see my financial disclosure statements going back to 2002, you can also see our tax returns from 2010," he said, promising that when the 2011 tax returns were ready they would also be released.

Romney then said that Reid's attacks proved that even if he did r

[Blue Meany]

1. Ah, but he didn't say what kind of taxes or in what country he paid them...n/t

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

15. Yep.

He may have paid taxes to whatever state he claims to be living in and to whatever foreign country where his money is residing. And he might be trying to claim that taxes paid by Bain are "his" which they are not.

Unless...and this is just a possibility...he's lying and really didn't pay any.

His foot is caught in a bear trap, and the fact that he's not releasing the returns just proves that whatever is on them is pure poison.

[fleur-de-lisa]

52. care elevators

Surely he paid sales tax on those care elevators!

[crazylikafox]

2. But did he say INCOME taxes???

[1-Old-Man]

11. You mean the sales taxes on two or three Cadillacs on each coast don't count?

[Cali_Democrat]

3. Now we know he won't release his tax returns for sure

Dems need to just keep hammering him. It's working.

[enough]

4. Sales taxes? Property taxes? Put up or shut up, Mitt. (nt)

[BumRushDaShow]

5. He is required to pay quarterly estimates but upon final filing with deductions

he probably net-paid little or nothing.

[sibelian]

6. "TAXES? Oh, sorry I thought you meant TAXIS."

[Motown_Johnny]

26. or TAXUS

Taxus baccata aka. the "Green Diamond"

[sibelian]

35. Oh, that's pretty!

I like plants...

[sinkingfeeling]

7. Ah, but have you paid Federal Income tax every year?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. Just thought of something. He may have paid but got huge refunds....which look bad too.

No one would know that just by looking at financials on his website, because you don't know the deductions

[backscatter712]

8. Why don't you release your tax returns and show us, Rmoney?

If you don't have anything to hide, you've got nothing to worry about!

[magical thyme]

9. what kind of taxes, Mittens? Real estate? Sales? We're asking about *income taxes* mittens

Come on now, man up and show us your tax returns. Your own daddy showed us his tax returns! Aren't you a big a man as your daddy?

What are you hiding Mittens? If you paid all the taxes you owe, then what are you afraid of? Why are you afraid to let us see just how successful you are?

Show us our money, Rmoney. Show us our money.

[russspeakeasy]

13. Just gotta HAMMER, HAMMER, HAMMER.

[Enrique]

10. here's the question he can't answer

though when asked why he wouldn't release more years of tax returns to prove Reid wrong, he dodged.

Why? If Harry Reid is lying so bad about him, you'd think he'd be so mad that he would prove Reid a liar, by simply releasing his returns, which is a normal thing for candidates to do.

So why isn't he?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

17. Hookers = Entertainment Deduction

Just a guess...

[cindyperry2010]

12. Is anyone else but me

laughing hysterically because quiet unassuming harry reid has got mitthead dancing like a puppet and flopping everywhere. it is great

[russspeakeasy]

14. I can't reply to your post, because your post numbers are 6 6 6 !!

[BumRushDaShow]

22. You're just silly

[louis-t]

58. My best 666 story...

I was on a bowling league, maybe the 8th frame of one game, I looked up to find that both teams had 666 total pins. As I pointed it out, someone made the 'play those numbers in the lottery' comment. The next day, the 3-digit was 666.

[russspeakeasy]

62. Excellent, I hope you had the ticket....

[louis-t]

65. Naw, everyone was afraid to play it.

[liberal N proud]

16. SHOW US Mittens

Just Show US

[Kalidurga]

18. I would ask Mitt to put up or shut up...

but, I really just want him to shut up. This is unbelievable the person that is supposed to put up is the one screaming the other guy has to. What a dufus, I don't think he knows how this game is played.

[nenagh]

20. A Lawrence O'Donnell guest compared the tax rate Dick Cheney paid to Romney's taxes...

He said Cheney paid the top tax rate for his income: putting power before wealth so planned that his tax returns would look good before committees..

Whereas Romney seems to have put wealth before power...

Also, Cheney produced 10 yrs of tax returns.

[progressivebydesign]

21. "still working on 2011???" Gee, guess only the little people have to file a COMPLETE return on time

even with an extension, you're supposed to file something and pay what you owe.

That asshole is reworking his 2011 taxes as we speak, to sanitize them.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. I agree. It took less math to land men on the moon than to do his '11 returns.

The beautiful thing about this is that he really can't delay any longer than mid October. He must file them by then.

The more we keep this in the headlines the longer he will wait, trying to get away with just one more year's worth. I am sure he is hoping for some big news story to steal the spotlight for a while and he hopes to make a Friday news dump of them and then move on.


If we can force him to keep holding onto them until the very last moment then Rmoney will be the first candidate in history to reveal a devastating October surprise about himself.

This has the potential of seriously damaging his candidacy just a few weeks before people go to the polls.

[JHB]

44. This point deserves an OP

In fact, now it has one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021068659

[onenote]

49. He has until October 15

I haven't finished and filed my return for 2011 either, so I for one can't attack him for not having filed 2011 yet. The only thing you have to file with an extension request is a one-page form and you have to have paid enough to cover your final tax bill, or you end up with a penalty and interest.

That said, its important that the pressure be kept up on his failure to release earlier returns.

[GoCubsGo]

23. And, we are supposed to just take his word for it.

[BeyondGeography]

24. Show us the carfax already

[Laura PourMeADrink]

30. haha. just like someone saying we are "wothers" and show us your "worth certificate"

[IggleDoer]

34. Would you buy a used car from this man? --- n/t

[kentuck]

27. But he doesn't really know how much?

When asked by a reporter the other day if he had paid more or less than the 13.9% paid in 2010, Romney said that he did not know. And that he would get back to him with that information - which he never did. He has paid a very minimal amount of taxes, if any at all.

[Marrah_G]

28. If Reid were wrong the Romney campaign would be whipping out the returns to prove him a liar

But they aren't.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. post 29

[The Magistrate]

29. What a Mittiful, Pathetic Try At Rebuttal This Is, Sir

Mittwit's unsupported word carries no weight at all. If he wants the charge to go away, he is going to have to make public his tax returns, and i their original form....

"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. I agree. But do you really think he would completely risk it all, forever by lying

so blatantly, knowing some day the truth could leak out?


I really don't. He's too anal. But, he is a parser. I think he paid taxes but got huge refunds somehow

[JHB]

33. Federal income taxes?

Speaking of deflecting, Mitt's been overly-specific enough in past replies that I feel the need to go into weasel-prevention mode.

So what if they'd be "subject to distortions", Mitt? You subject Obama to distortions every time you open your maouth or run an ad. have you even once accurately characterized anything he's said?

Harry Reid isn't the one running for president. And no one is legally required to vote for you.

How many jobs bills have your fellow Republicans passed? Versus how many anti-choice bills, or even "name a post office" bills?

[IggleDoer]

36. Maybe he DID pay a lot in income taxes ...

... then he got it all back in refunds, rebates, tax credits, etc.

The man's a lizard.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

43. my idea too

[aquart]

63. Lizards lie on rocks. Mitt lies everywhere.

[Aerows]

37. Oh interesting. Now the story is "I released them"

When he didn't release anything.

He's trying to turn the narrative around on Reid, but I suspect that voters will not be fooled. Or, at least, voters that were undecided. Those that are Romney's base were planning on voting for him if it was revealed he kicked puppies, ran over children while driving recklessly, and intentionally polluted the Salt Lake with nuclear waste.

[bakpakr]

38. I only have two words for that;

PROVE IT!

[valerief]

39. Mittiot, we ALL pay sales taxes. Shut up and show your IRS submissions. nt

[uponit7771]

40. +1, Yeap, I paid taxes on lunch....it was a lot of taxes in my opinion

[IggleDoer]

41. He did pay "a lot" of taxes

More than the "little people pay."

[valerief]

46. He has more money than the "you people" though. nt

[MADem]

55. The sales taxes on thousand dollar tee shirts, yachts, and things of that nature add up!

Poor little rich boy....!!!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. Salon: Top 10 things he's hiding

1. Mormon Tithes

Mormons are expected to fork over 10 percent of their income to the Church of Latter Day Saints. And that fact leads us to two theories.

First, Rachel Zoll of the Associated Press speculated that Romney doesn’t want to remind evangelical Christians that he belongs to what many consider a non-Christian “cult.” “The Republican candidate’s commitment to the church is a double-edged sword in the contest for the presidential nomination,” she wrote. “Many GOP voters are Christians who do not consider Mormons to be part of historic Christianity. Romney supporters worry that details of his church donations contained in the tax returns could fuel opposition to him based on his religion.”

But it may be the other way around – perhaps he doesn’t want to piss off Mormons. After all, the right-wing Daily Caller reported that in 2010 and 2011, the two years for which Romney released partial returns, it looks like the former Mormon bishop under-tithed the church, paying 7 percent of his income one year and 9.7 percent over the two-year period. As the Caller noted, “Romney recently told Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace, ‘I made a commitment to my church a long, long time ago that I would give 10 percent of my income to the church, and I’ve followed through on that commitment. So, if I had given less than 10 percent, then I think people would have to look at me and say, ‘Hey, what’s wrong with you fella — don’t you follow through on your promises?’”

Of course, if he were sheltering additional income in offshore accounts, then the degree to which the Caller says he shortchanged the Mormons might be even greater.

2. Things That Might Infuriate the Base

Mitt Romney, who just four years ago was dubbed the “conservative alternative” to John McCain is probably, as he claims, “severely conservative.” But when he wanted to become governor of Massachusetts, he played to that state’s politics, swearing to protect a woman’s right to choose, saying that climate change isn’t a socialist plot and generally being reasonable. He passed the precursor to Obamacare, which he now condemns as a sign of looming tyranny.

Rick Newman at US News and World Report wonders whether Romney really stopped supporting those causes when he claims to have converted himself into a far-right Republican. Could he have a bunch of itemized deductions to, say, Planned Parenthood listed on those returns? We’d be wrong not to speculate.

the rest
http://www.salon.com/2012/08/03/10_theories_on_romneys_taxes_salpart/

[Buns_of_Fire]

50. I tend to go with #10 on the list -- that, at heart, he's just another arrogant, entitled prick

with attitude who doesn't intend to lower himself by giving in to "the little people."

Got news for you, Willard: People like you are a dime a dozen. You ain't nothin' special, nobody's impressed, and the only reason the teabaggers might grudgingly vote for you is because you're not The Other Guy. Keep in mind that these same people would vote for a moldy ham-and-shit sandwich (with or without Grey Poupon) for exactly the same reason.

[n2doc]

45. He's got 5 houses folks! Of COURSE he has paid taxes

I imagine the property taxes on his beachfront La Jolla house with the car elevator are pretty stiff, even with prop 13. They are deductable on his income taxes, though (I think). But income taxes? Those are for those peons too poor to afford good tax accountants and overseas shelters....

On edit, he bought the beach house in 2008 for 12 million. So prop 13 isn't helping him there.



More of mitts houses. One has been torn down

http://realestate.aol.com/blog/gallery/see-mitt-romneys-6-houses/#photo-5

[Marr]

47. "Harry Reid really has to put up or shut up..."

No, moron-- YOU do.

Remember that whole birth certificate thing? 'Just release the birth certificate if you want to end this'? Yeah, same thing applies here, only it isn't INSANE.

[INdemo]

48. The corporate mafia will spin this and spin it some more and it will not be an issue

in a few days..this will be all we will hear on Sunday talk shows

[joeybee12]

51. "Categorically" is a great disclaimer that liars like to use...nt

[struggle4progress]

53. Translation: "Takin Yellow Cab is expensive"

[MADem]

54. What is this, the five stages of grief?

First he's bullying...Waaaaah, put up or shut up, Harry Reid!!!!

Now he's bargaining.....I paid a lotta taxes, sniff, snuffle...a LOT!!! Waaaaaaah!

And deflecting....Pay no attention to the tax returns I won't release....look over here at this shiny thing, or that shiny thing, or .... I dunno, SIDE BOOB in the Olympic Water Polo games!!! Anything!!!!


Next thing ya know, he'll grab a scissors and try to wrestle Harry Reid to the ground and cut his hair!!!

[kenny blankenship]

56. Now listen to me very carefully (bites lip)

"I did...NOT...have sexual relations... with that tax attorney... Ms Lewinsky."

[Ruby the Liberal]

57. Poor Willard. If only there was a way he could prove he paid his taxes.

I guess "proving" who said what rumor in what order is going to settle this more effectively. Makes perfect sense to me.

[MNBrewer]

59. "categorically"???

What's THAT modifier supposed to mean?

[IggleDoer]

61. Whatever he wants you to believe.

Sales Tax Category
Property Tax Category
Excise Tax Category
Luxury Tax Category

Whatever!

[appleannie1]

60. There is an easy way to prove it. Release your tax returns. Simple for an idiot to figure out.

[HereSince1628]

64. Sure you paid taxes, Mitt, but we are talking US income tax. SHOW US THE LONG FORMS!

[kenny blankenship]

66. But I paid them to government of the Cook Islands

A fine, deserving bunch of people who have struggled very hard for a long time to attract foreign investment.

And believe me when I tell you that those 50 dollars will go a long way for their infrastructure plans, ( and I don't begrudge them a dime of it.)

A very long way indeed!

[gollygee]

67. Glad to hear it. THEN SHOW THEM

or you're hiding something.

[gollygee]

68. Also, I bet he pays a lot of sales tax on his Cadilacs and horse expenses

How many homes does he have? How much does he buy? We don't want to hear about any taxes at all. We want to see the income taxes.

[Fla Dem]

69. In the spirit of Jerry Maguire...SHOW ME YOUR TAX RETURNS!!!! n/t

[jmowreader]

70. Property taxes on four estates would be pretty high...

Also sales tax on horse feed, gas tax on his non-fuel-efficient cars' voracious appetites for gas...

[B Calm]

71. So I guess we'll just have to take your word for it. LOL