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xocetaceans

(3,878 posts)
1. Doel seems to have lost the plot other than finding Bill Maher insufferable. Hamas still exists, and the point is to...
Tue May 14, 2024, 06:18 PM
May 14

...completely neutralize Hamas. Military action is not about proportionality when a war has been started: it is about destroying the enemy's capability to project force. If Hamas were to return the hostages and surrender, this war would be over. That not being the case, it is ridiculous to expect Israel to stop working towards eliminating Hamas both as a military organization and as a political organization, given October 7, 2023. Neither the Nazis nor ISIS were tolerated, neither should Hamas be tolerated.

Lastly, one should note that the US Invasion of Iraq led roughly to 187,192 to 210,662 documented civilian deaths. (See the website Iraq Body Count for specifics, https://www.iraqbodycount.org/).

It is thus inconsistent to label the situation in Gaza as genocide unless one is willing also to claim that the US was committing genocide in Iraq.

It is not clear that Doel et al ever claimed that the US Invasion of Iraq (however wrong the US Invasion of Iraq may actually have been) was a genocide. Was the US Invasion of Iraq a genocide? (That question seems to answer itself.)

Warpy

(111,592 posts)
2. Unwatchable, video voice over guy should have butted out
Tue May 14, 2024, 06:21 PM
May 14

Clue phone: let the video plau, then discuss what was in it.

While I'd love to see Maher taken down a peg, this didn't do it.

mahina

(17,856 posts)
4. I wonder what Bill Burr really thinks of the guy?
Tue May 14, 2024, 07:53 PM
May 14

Not

He clearly cannot stand him, and I can't either. However, this YouTube is why God invented the scroll bar. As Burr would say, Jayus!

Warpy

(111,592 posts)
5. "Go home, Grandpa, you're high" comes to mind
Tue May 14, 2024, 08:38 PM
May 14

I will say tha Maher has been a little shorter with right wing blabbermouths lately than he was back in the day when Coulter's ironed, bleached hair and crotch high little black dress had him hypnotized.

Still, I watch for the early interview and the New Rules. The rest is just filler, IMO.

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