Nearly 20% of voters blame President Joe Biden for the Supreme Court's decision to repeal Roe v. Wade

[Quixote1818]

Actually, once these voters are educated with ad blitzes on abortion, that could have a pretty nice impact on the current polling.

Alanna Vagianos
Mon, May 13, 2024 at 4:33 PM MDT·4 min read
Nearly 20% of voters blame President Joe Biden for the Supreme Court’s decision to repeal Roe v. Wade in 2022, according to a poll released Monday ― even though former President Donald Trump has repeatedly taken credit for overturning Roe, given that he appointed three conservative Supreme Court justices who were central to the decision.

The survey, conducted by The New York Times, Siena College and The Philadelphia Inquirer, found that 17% of registered voters in six swing states believe Biden has “a lot of responsibility” or “some responsibility” for ending the constitutional right to abortion. Just over 55% of respondents said Trump has “some responsibility” or “a lot of responsibility” for overturning Roe.

More: https://www.yahoo.com/news/17-voters-blame-biden-fall-223306066.html

[edhopper]

1. Just

[Cosmocat]

4. This country is that stupid

sadly.

[LisaM]

2. To quote Rufus Wainwright, I'm so tired of you, America.

Why do we have to keep fighting these same battles, including the neverending fight against willful ignorance?

[oasis]

3. Low info pro-Trump dipshits.

[gab13by13]

5. Another poll? C'mon man.

[Lovie777]

8. And negative stories of President Biden.............................

it will be tons and tons of that while they ignore deteriorating shithole and his fucked-up comrades. GQP redux of 2016.

[unblock]

6. How is a magat supposed to answer that poll question?

I think it's not a great poll question, or at least, it's hard to interpret in a useful way.

I think some magats will blame Biden out of ignorance or just to smear Biden. It would be more interesting if they limited the question to non-magats.

[MadameButterfly]

20. Then its not a poll

[unblock]

30. Sure it is

I've take plenty of polls where it says to answer this section only if you answered one way on a previous question, or answer this other section otherwise.

Alternatively, they could provide more detailed data so we could do that analysis ourselves.

[MadameButterfly]

32. A good poll doesn't select for the people who will answer

only one way. Not a poll where you want to find anything out.

[unblock]

34. Good polls do that all the time

Do you have kids?
If no, skip the next two questions.

[MadameButterfly]

37. However asking only non-MAGATs about this presidential election

tells you nothing about what is going to happen in this presidential election. Unless we can keep the MAGATs from voting.

I assume the poll asking about kids is trying to poll parents.

[Silent3]

7. "Actually, once these voters are educated..."

Dreee-eee-eee-eam. Dream, dream, dream, dream, dreee-eee-eee-eam 🎶

Maybe, just maybe, 2-3% of these idiots will catch on. Hope it’s enough to make a difference.

[0rganism]

9. NYT-Siena puts out some weird polls

It's really hard to tell at a glance if they've actually uncovered some obscure juicy detail or got tangled up reweighting the cross-tabs

[republianmushroom]

10. Though it would be higher. Some republicans are becoming wiser, maybe.

[Qutzupalotl]

11. Something to help counter that notion

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218948788

Help, mind you. Help.

[Hassler]

12. That 20% are MAGAts. They know the truth, they just lie

[MadameButterfly]

21. the ones who said Jan. 6ers were Antifa

then they were tourists, then it was a deep state plot, then they were patriots

I'm not comp;etely sure whether they are lying or just dumb enough not to see the conflict. For sure they want to win the argument more than they want to know the truth.

[Quixote1818]

42. I was thinking that to but not sure how they think that helps them

As hardly anyone will see the poll.

[orange jar]

13. I've seen liberals on other social media sites...

…get angrier at Biden and his admin than the Repubs for "not doing enough to protect reproductive rights"… mind you, it's mostly Twitter and Reddit "liberals" so they could also be malicious actors looking to confuse the public.

If they're real, however, then they are beyond help.

[betsuni]

35. Rule of blaming Democrats for not stopping all bad things, assumed Democrats know the future.

So in this case the idiots imagine Democrats knew Roe v. Wade would be gone and didn't codify it because they didn't want to (both sides both sides both sides) -- not that they didn't have the votes or considered it settled law.

[usonian]

14. Fact Check: Trump Claimed Credit for Overturning Roe v. Wade: 'I'm Proud To Have Done It' (Snopes)

Claim:

During a Fox News town hall, former U.S. President Donald Trump claimed credit for overturning Roe v. Wade, saying, "For 54 years they were trying to get Roe v. Wade terminated, and I did it. And I'm proud to have done it."

Rating:



From: https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-trump-claimed-credit-165200848.html

[tavernier]

15. Can't fix stupid.

That is definitely something Trump figured out about his base and used it.

[Wounded Bear]

23. Also really hard to fix the willfully ignorant...nt

[Freethinker65]

16. Ok. I bet some think the Court wouldn't have ruled against women's Constitutional rights if Republicans were in charge

Because they wouldn't need to. Republicans, with Trump in charge, would ban it outright.

The Conservative Court thus had to do it because Biden was President and those Godless Democrats might be in power for a long time. Thus, it was Biden's fault. You see, if Biden and the Democrats were for forced birth, the Court wouldn't have needed to rule the way they did. The conservative Court needs to take back as many rights as possible while they have the majority.

Honestly. That is what some voters believe.

[MadameButterfly]

22. Repbulican woul have banned it already if they could without the court

I know you're trying to explain the minds of stupid people but really, more plausible is the paradadigm that
whatever happens is the fault of whoever is president at the time

Then they don't have to think

[JustAnotherGen]

17. I blame them

Those people didn't vote for Clinton in 2016 -and they are looking to point the finger at everyone but themselves.

[JohnSJ]

18. I think that result just made the Sienna/NY Times poll results questionable, but nice for a headline

Funny that isn't reflected in how others experience is:

"The 17% figure yielded in the Times/Siena/Inquirer poll doesn’t reflect what Mini Timmaraju, president of Reproductive Freedom for All, is hearing on the ground while canvassing for abortion rights in some of these states".

[MadameButterfly]

24. Just because a poll result sounds ridiculous

doesn't mean it's wrong. Maybe people are this crazy, or this misinformed.

[Mad_Machine76]

38. In any event

it's good to know what we're working with.

[MadameButterfly]

41. Agreed, which is why poll

imperfect but better than a wild guess or what we just prefer

[LeftInTX]

19. I've seen ordinary senior citizen, working class Democrats think like this.

"He's the boss, he should be able to control them".

They're blue collar types who just don't quite understand how the govt works.

[MadameButterfly]

25. If its a matter of education, what are we waiting for?

This is no longer the time to keep our powder dry.

[orange jar]

27. agreed.

Needs to be some kind of nationally broadcasted PSA about how our government works.

Idiots who think the president has control over every little thing speak the loudest and try to convince others they're correct.

[LeftInTX]

44. Hubby said that voters need Amber Alerts..LOL

[Xoan]

26. NYT

pfft

[stonecutter357]

28. Cool Story, Bro !

[thucythucy]

29. Reminds me of an interview I saw a few years ago--

an elderly white woman who said she was voting for Trump because "He sent me all this money during the pandemic."

She thought Trump was paying for this out of his own pocket because his name was on the check.

"Biden isn't a billionaire, so he woudn't be able to help me like this."

There's a strong tide of ignorance that runs through the electorate, and it seems it always favors the GOP.

Like the man said, "I love uneducated voters."

Of course he does.

[3catwoman3]

31. "There's a strong tide of ignorance that runs through the electorate..."

It's a riptide that is threatening to pull us under and drown us.

[thucythucy]

36. "Riptide" is right.

Having been caught in an actual rip tide many years ago, I can testify that what I see happening in our politics today elicits the same sort of visceral panic.

[Mad_Machine76]

39. Wait

I thought that the "Biden Crime Family" was raking in billions of dollars from CHINA?!

[Rebl2]

33. He has

no control over what they decide!

[Mad_Machine76]

40. And overturning their rulings (via Constitutional Amendment)

or otherwise explicitly codifying abortion rights is not a simple matter.

[TexasBushwhacker]

43. I think that's the same percentage

that thinks chocolate milk comes from brown cows.