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There needs to be Election 2016 forensics....NOW ! nt

If the election was clean.....

....neither side should fear a recount.

In fact, recounts should be automatic in a case such as this where one side won the popular vote so decidedly and the other just squeaked by in the electoral college fiasco.

Here is a writing on the "new deal".....?


Oct 29, 2015 @ 04:00 AM 14,189 views
New Budget Deal Is Cutting Your Social Security Benefits And It's A Good Thing

Jamie Hopkins ,


I cover retirement income planning, retirement, and other legal issues

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Approved by the House of Representatives on October 28th, 2015, the “Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015,” contains language that will reduce potential Social Security benefits for millions of Americans. In fact, it will effectuate the single largest change to Social Security since the Citizens Freedom to Work Act of 2000, which first enabled most of the file and suspend strategies being removed by the current budget agreement. While many are writing about the devastating impact of reduced benefits, these changes will likely be beneficial to the Social Security system and to the American people. Nonetheless, reduced benefits are still reduced benefits and will have a negative impact on many people relying upon these Social Security payments.

The budget bill, as proposed by the House of Representatives, will effectively eliminate most of the “file-and-suspend” claiming strategies that exist today. File and suspend is a strategy used by married couples to simultaneously generate a paycheck from Social Security while deferring at least one of the couple’s retirement benefits into the future. Such practice allows married couples to take advantage of the deferral credits that increase Social Security retirement benefits by 8 percent per year after full retirement age and still get a Social Security benefit check each month. Not a lot of time should be spent trying to understand these strategies as they will soon no longer be available.

Bad news........

A cut is a cut is a cut.......

Trying to sweeten it by saying there was no cut in Social Security benefits themselves doesn't help at all.

Dems and sensible Repubs - if there are any - better get together and kill this or fix it.

And by the way - ya know what will fix Social Security and Medicare?

NEW JOBS _ JOBS _ JOBS! Millions of them!

Stuck? Yes, stuck with the great ones also.......

However, justices should serve for a limited time. 20 years?

Term limits for elected officials is an insidious, self-inflicted surrender of the power of the right to vote.

Repeal the Twenty Second Amendment, which was passed by a Republican congress and ratified quickly by Republican legislatures.

It was a vengeful assault on the memory of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

What do they think?

That hungry people will be too weak to vote?


Dunno much about "subordinate".......

But what follows is in the Constitution and it "ordinates" the establishment of the United States and the framework - repeat: FRAMEWORK of government required to establish how and why the United States were ordained into a nation:

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What then follows, I repeat, is only a FRAMEWORK or structure of government, guided by principles and practices of those days and the good sense and inspirations when the Constitution was written by the blessed Founders.

You won't find the precise words and phrases that cover every detail of the government operations to date.

That's NOT what Constitutions do!

Can we all agree on this........?

The people made the Constitution, and the people can unmake it.
It is the creature of their will, and lives only by their will.

Chief Justice John Marshall, 1821

If the leaders we elect or appoint fail to execute their oath to defend and protect us and our Constitution then we need to fix the Constitution to make it work in spite of the negligence of the people sworn to protect and defend it.

Great thread.......

In addition.....go here:


..... and look over some facts. Put it in your bookmarks/favorites.

It's nice to have facts when discussing such a vital topic.

Here is how the SS Trust Fund works, and more.......


Take the trouble to read these very simple instructions.

The Trust Fund is not green cash stored in warehouses. It cannot be stolen by anybody.

SS funds collected from payroll and elsewhere MUST be invested by law. They earn considerable interest, enough to pay administrative costs of the SS system.

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