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KELLY had me sputtering at the talk radio, then Dana LOESH was orgasming over him

I've posted a few times, when KELLY was lauded YES-HERE for being the adult somehow reining TWITLER in, that when he was at DHS he was a brute on Border policy.

He's been turned into the aw-shucks Gary COOPER/John "Draft Dodger" WAYNE type of testosterone hero.

Listening to several minutes of his press conference one question led to another:

* Since when do chiefs of staff hold press conferences?
I don't recall any by Rahm EMANUEL, PANETTA, or any of the other ones, full list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_White_House_Chiefs_of_Staff

* Why does TWITLER have to use others as crutches for defending and explaining his fuck-ups - not to mention never facing real and extended questions himself, always having a hapless visiting head of state standing next to him, and yukking it all off without the semblance of actual thought?!1

* When did the CIVILIAN CONTROL of American government get superceded by military prototypes?
Viz., reporters getting "qualified" to ask questions according to being or knowing Gold Star families.

* Who has degraded the principles of American government, not to mention Gold Star families, more than TWITLER?

* Why does an unelected flunky (you, KELLY) have more First Amendment privilege than a congresscritter who was elected to represent the constituents, besides having a personal relationship with the deceased veteran and his wife?

* Why do wingnuts exemplified by LOESH believe that KELLY personifies American values by dint of his gender and the stereotypical physical characteristics of it and of degrading his dead son's memory?

***********I'm hoping for DUers to add on to this list better than I can sputter.

Brit HUME & HANNITY act out hypocrisy for wingnuts re WEINSTEIN vis a vis TWITLER/AILES/OREILLY

Among the many words wingnuts don’t “get”, hypocrisy and irony are prime, so the aforesaid boys do performance art (quoted below) as demonstration.

My theorem: When malefactors (bribery, chicanery, turpitude, et al.) who had been calling themselves “Democrats” before are revealed as malefactors, they forfeit even the semblance of any Democratic identity, since right action is a major component of being Democratic.


So, back when the Philadelphia “doctor” was murdering pregnant women and fetuses under the guise of abortions, the wingnuts gloried in calling him an “abortion doctor.” No. He was a serial killer who used medical techniques and an “abortion clinic” as his m.o., having nothing to do with Pro Choice. Same thing when a previously labeled “Democratic” congresscritter was found to have bundles of cash in his freezer, or whatever other criminals: They FORFEIT the *using* the Democratic party label.

So, WEINSTEIN trafficked in fashionable cash donations, but his nefarious personal perversions have nothing to do with actually being a Democrat.

This is to burst that balloon of glee the wingnuts have been riding over WEINSTEIN while they continue to be totally silent over AILES, O’LOOFAH, and above all TWITLER.

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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/brit-hume-seems-to-believe-weinsteins-sexual-assault-allegations-but-not-trump-or-ailes/
Brit Hume Seems to Believe Weinstein’s Sexual Assault Allegations, But Not Trump’s or Ailes’

.... It’s almost shocking to see someone so skeptical suddenly seem this receptive — and this is where Hume’s intentions seem to shine through. The truth, as I see it, is that Hume doesn’t seem to give a damn about sexual assault victims and their allegations unless believing them is positive for his career, his media allies, or his political views.

As others have noted, it’s difficult to find moral distinctions between the accusations made against Weinstein or Clinton and Trump or Ailes, other than the fact that Weinstein and Clinton are Democrats and Trump and Ailes are Republicans. And this ultimately explains exactly why Hume chose now — and with Clinton — to suddenly believe victims of sexual assault.



https://www.mediaite.com/tv/hannity-slams-left-for-hypocrisy-on-weinstein-forgets-he-just-had-bill-oreilly-on-as-guest/
Hannity Slams Left for Hypocrisy on Weinstein, Forgets He JUST Had Bill O’Reilly On as Guest


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-chris-hayes-shows-damning-montage-of-trumps-sexual-misconduct-allegations/
MSNBC’s Chris Hayes Shows Damning Montage of Trump’s Sexual Misconduct Allegations

.... “The President of the United States, almost exactly one year ago the famous (sic) Access Hollywood was released, which we don’t need to play because everyone remembers that tape, but what is not always remembered is what happened right after that tape was released. Woman after woman came forward, nearly a dozen in all, accusing Donald Trump of inappropriate behavior and sexual assault.” ....

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'nother o'my e-mails to local radio wingnut talkshow host, this time over MANAFORT alert:

C'mon, (wingnut), news for tonight, MANAFORT has been warned by MUELLER that he should prepare to be indicted.

Here’s the thing, (wingnut) : I am a little nobody. I have *NO* inside sources, *NO* special connections for guvmint happenings, *NO* high—powered $3,000/bottle wine lunches.

And yet: Over these 30 years that I have been lambasting you for your dastardly wingnut views, I have been correct and you have NOT been COUNTLESS times. You have all these connections and yet your INSTINCTS and your RESOURCES and your PRINCIPLES and your CONVICTIONS are always WRONG! Could it be because your world view is miserably WRONG, and, really you don't have those principles/convictions?!

You have waited and waited for Whoever a Great White Hope will come down the pike. You have chased after Minutemen, the Second Amendment Terrorists, the SwiftBoaters, NAVARRETTE, CHEENEE-Shrub - ANYBODY you think will vanquish us dastardly Libs.

By the bye, Hillary has seemed to be your biggest bug-a-boo, even more than OBAMA. What’s *that* all about?!

ANYWAY, what has prompted this outburst of mine is tonight’s news that MANAFORT has been informed he should prepare to be indicted.

Now here’s the thing: As I’ve said many times, all I know is what’s available on public venues. So when this fellow (and ALL of TWITLER’s team) first surfaced, all his nefariousness was out there in public about his known history. And just his FACE broadcasts what a slimeball he is. Uh, SAME with TWITLER and ALL of his crew. But you wanted to "win".

Anyway. I doubt you’ve even sampled a $3K bottle of wine like the TWITLER flying monkeys. What is it about them that gets you to sell your non-convictions and non-principles for them?????????? HAH!!!!!!!!!

Another futile e-mail to the local radio wingnut talkshow host:

So today you were “righteously” outraged about how us dastardly Libs are questioning/accusing DRUMPF of being mentally ill. LOTS of people who have spent scores of years serving the public good (CLAPPER, etc.) carry NO WEIGHT with you, just your defending DRUMPF.

The only question *YOU* should be navel-gazing about is the same one somebody slapped Bill O’REILLY about:

“WHY ARE YOU *ALWAYS* ON THE SIDE OF THE *BIG* GUYS?!”


The context is O’REILLY’s tag lines of “being on the LITTLE guys’ side” and “I’m looking out for *YOU*!”

No, “WHY ARE *YOU* ALWAYS ON THE SIDE OF THE *BIG* GUYS?!”

No, you don’t care about minorities being mistreated, don’t care about social injustice or justice, don’t care about anything or anybody on the downside of human society, don't care about the planet.

So, with DRUMPF, here we are. There are no ISSUES about him. He cares about NOTHING/NOBODY except himself, not (do I need to spell it out: ) the COUNTRY. His “so-called” AGENDA and PROMISES are nothing anybody wants. It’s all about HIM and down to SAVING HIS ass. So, why oh why is HIS ASS so worthy a cause?!1

So we’re going to spend part of the next 3 1/2 years with the DISTRACTION of HIM, without absolutely anything about the real things that matter, and then spend the remainder of the 4 years on the disaster of President PENCE being “successful” at implementing the atrocious/horrible/a-hole agenda/promises.

Answer the only question you should soul-search about.

At this late date, still not admitting the real answer is: SOMEBODY *ELSE*

All through the execrable Campaign ‘16, we were under an onslaught of “advice” and wishful thinking for DRUMPF – that he might have a capacity to CHANGE, that he might PIVOT, that he looks credible when STICKING TO THE SCRIPT, and on and on, all of it adding up to: SOMEBODY DIFFERENT.

It was all totally clear who and what he was from Day One, with tons of documented history: A self-serving, amoral, mobster – that is all. The best thing the yakkers could come up with was that he was NOT AN IDEOLOGIST, was a pragmatist – translated as “unscrupulous opportunist.”

So it would seem that the past seven months’ worth of day-after-day of his sickening demands to be kicked out would be enough to stop the media yakkers from their wishful advising for him, but no, this very morning there they continue to be, wringing their hands about how he needs to make alliances with politicians and needs to stop tweeting and he NEEDS SOME WINS for his AGENDA.

Uh, note to yakkers: HIS AGENDA IS HORRIBLE, for starters. Only his dwindling base ever cared about his agenda. It might very well be just a totally fraudulent marketing gimmick aimed at voting SUCKERS. They really only cared about his releasing them to vent their hitherto strait-jacketed hatred. Wait until they are personally touched by his agenda. Even if his enablers manage to pass every item of his agenda, he will still end up as the most CURSED-AT jerk in this country’s history, leaving aside the wreckage the country will be left in. It’s not beyond him to SELL the country, having already sold OUT the country.

At this late date, the yakkers continue to pose “solutions” to what he wreaks every day, all pretending to ignore that the only real solution is: SOMEBODY ELSE.

R#14 & K for, I wish this could be *pinned* forever. Saying it again:

O'LOOFAH is the stereotypical 1950s White male - repressed and oppressive, at the minimum verbally and emotionally abusive, at the maximum physically abusive, bursting with DENIAL above all and hypocrisy and resentment, starved for approval and attention, vicious bully, adolescent/immature sexual pervert (at his age).

He and the Faux Propaganda Network are in a devil's pact over cash, with only two solutions: Either he tanks in profits for them or he becomes a sexual cipher.

It is gobsmacking that he casts himself as a moral arbiter over everybody else (except his sick peers). He should be in isolation, doing nothing else but facing his own large problems.

Lounge *ALERT*!1 - a musical blockbuster, PROUST thing-THING-*THING*!1 - Supertramp

Will not TEASE. It's about a song,

So in this place, this couple go there and are high rollers, spenders, and she's 6' and he's 5'9" and they're self-employed - whatEVER!1
The point is they are like the stars of the bar floozy hierarchy. Anyway, she plays like 50 juke box songs, 70s/80s/90s whatever, who knows because *I* certainly don't!1

I never paid attention, but about a month ago this SONG penetrated my skull like a crossbow. As I've said, I like MELODY not LYRICS, and TUNEFUL things, like POP, and TCHAIKOVSKY. *SO* this song was an immediate whaddaya callit a buzz thing you can't get rid of. And when that happens I usually run to the jukebox to see what it is, and I did, and thought I had noted it into the phone list, but I didn't, and for the next two days it was buzzing (what is the word?) but then it disappeared.

So then for the past three weeks I've been nuts trying to find that song, by playing '70s/'80s music and NOTHING.

So tonight the couple were in there and she played her usual HUNDRED songs, and after an hour THIS SONG played, and it was *IT*!1

It's got MELODY, REPETITIVE hook - and *COUNTERPOINT*!1 I love COUNTERPOINT!1 - this is FANTASTIC!1:



Supertramp Mark II. L-R: Roger Hodgson, Frank Farrell, Rick Davies, Kevin Currie, and Dave Winthrop


Rick DAVIES


[font size=5]Goodbye Stranger (1979)[/font]
by Rick DAVIES/Supertramp

It was an early morning yesterday
I was up before the dawn
And I really have enjoyed my stay
But I must be moving on

->Like a king without a castle
->Like a queen without a throne
->I'm an early morning lover
->And I must be moving on

Now I believe in what you say
Is the undisputed truth
But I have to have things my own way
To keep me in my youth

->Like a ship without an anchor
->Like a slave without a chain
->Just the thought of those sweet ladies
->Sends a shiver through my veins

->And I will go on shining
->Shining like brand new
->I'll never look behind me
->My troubles will be few

CHORUS: (1/once; 2/two & one half times)
1
Goodbye stranger it's been nice
Hope you find your paradise
Tried to see your point of view
Hope your dreams will all come true

2 Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane
Will we ever meet again
feel no sorrow, feel no shame
Come tomorrow, feel no pain

Now some they do and some they don't
And some you just can't tell
And some they will and some they won't
With some it's just as well

->You can laugh at my behavior
->That'll never bother me
->Say the devil is my savior
->But I don't pay no heed

->And I will go on shining
->Shining like brand new
->I'll never look behind me
->My troubles will be few

CHORUS: (1/once; 2/three & one half times)
Goodbye stranger it's been nice etc...

DRUMPF exposed "a pre-existing rot" - brilliant essay by Rob GOODMAN (long read)



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ROB GOODMAN has worked as the speechwriter for House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and Senator Chris Dodd. His work has appeared on the floors of both houses of Congress, national television and radio, and the op-ed pages of The New York Times, Washington Post, and The Wall Street Journal. He is the author of Rome's Last Citizen.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/what-trump-taught-us-about-american-democracy-214596
[font size=5]What the King of Hawaii Can Teach Us About Trump[/font]

A political fable from 1819.

By Rob Goodman

.... I can’t be the only one who has lost count of the democratic [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]norms—the unwritten, informal, but hugely important rules that help us govern ourselves—that now seem to be gone with as little consequence[/FONT] as the taboos in the story. If you’re running for president, you don’t even raise the possibility that the election won’t count if you don’t win. You don’t threaten to throw your opponent in jail if you do win. If you change your mind about throwing your opponent in jail, you don’t explain it as an act of mercy, because that’s not how the rule of law works. If you’re running for president, and especially if you get elected, you release your tax returns, so voters can know that you’re not financially compromised by foreign governments, or by corporations seeking to do business with the United States. You put your assets in a blind trust, so you never confuse your self-interest with the public interest. You don’t accuse millions of Americans of voter fraud without evidence. You don’t compromise civilian control of the armed forces. You don’t let your team threaten to lock up journalists who investigate you.

[FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]You don’t do those things, until, one day, you do.[/FONT] The only thing holding you back in most cases is the force of custom, and there are times and places—Hawaii in 1819, or America in 2016—[FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]when custom is so weak that it’s no force at all.[/FONT]

Of course, Donald Trump didn’t need to be a political genius to realize that norms like these were historically weak. He only needed to watch the news. In just the last eight years, [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]we’ve watched the unthinkable become the debatable and then the unexceptionable.[/FONT] We’ve seen President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominee denied even a hearing for nearly a year, and we’ve seen his other nominees blockaded at an historic rate. We’ve seen real, live U.S. senators promise that no justice nominated by a Democratic president would ever be confirmed. We’ve seen credible threats to default on the national debt. We’ve seen the president’s budget director denied even the right to propose a budget to Congress. We’ve seen the president expand executive power in response to all of this, in a way that’s troubling even to some liberals. We’ve seen the Senate filibuster go from rare to routine—and watched Senate Democrats retaliate by partially nuking the filibuster. It was laughable when a member of Congress interrupted the State of the Union to call the president a liar—until a movement calling the president a liar about his birthplace launched his successor to power. ....

Instead, we have to come to terms with living in a time of [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]post-norm politics[/FONT]—by which I don’t mean that all of our political norms are suddenly defunct, but rather that [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]the continued rolling back of norms we’ve taken for granted has to stop surprising us[/FONT]. Rather than thinking [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]reactively[/FONT], and [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]feeding the Trump outrage cycle[/FONT], we ought to understand him as exposing a [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]pre-existing rot[/FONT]. We need to think about why norms fail in general, and how to act when we can’t rely on them. Only then will we stop underestimating the sheer difficulty of one day rebuilding them. ....

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My latest broadside to the local radio talk show wingnut

It only takes a random few minutes of hearing the local radio wingnut to pick up on whatever his false interpretations are for that day, or most days or years since he frequently repeats. Yesterday he was totally brain-locked, with long dead air between words and his young co-host was holding back from saying, “This is PAINFUL to (observe),” the way the previous young co-host would say of OBAMA’s sometimes long pauses.

Yesterday, he was going on about how “some Hillary people” have not accepted the election outcome, that winning and losing in elections happens and either one is not that big a deal, but that “some Hillary people” are totally off the deep end about this because they see it as apocalyptic and “something catastrophic” going to happen.

First, about “some Hillary people” I’ve said that I am not a personality-cult driven type. The wingnut also refers to “OBAMA (followers).” These two individuals are, and whomever others happen to be, for the moment of however many years, the current ones being the leaders of my political party, and since I’m driven to support my political party because of my AGENDA of civil rights, social justice, civil liberties, and stewardship of the planet, my support for them is not about the individuals Hillary/OBAMA (or whomever).

This local wingnut blabberer himself over the past years of electioneering has said he was above all “AGAINST HILLARY” rather than being “FOR (DRUMPF)” while nonstop mouthing to clear the road for DRUMPF to succeed.

This local wingnut is a Billy KRISTOL in our local tiny pond – has been WRONG about just about everything for years. He doesn’t want to talk about RAYGUN 30 years ago because that’s OLD NEWS, but he’s willing to compare DRUMPF to Andy JACKSON.

Now that I’ve cleared off the canard about “Hillary’s people,” yes, I *DO* qualify to see this FREAK OUTCOME to be APOCALYPTIC with CATASTROPHIC CONSEQUENCES to come. It’s not about Hillary; it’s about DRUMPF.

It’s about TONS of his words, deeds, and behaviors over 70 of his years that came to light (not to mention what's hidden) that ought to convince just about anybody that this FREAK is COMPLETELY, TOTALLY unfit. I never would have voted for him just because of his “Republican” label, because, yes, I believe that there’s something wrong with anybody of that ideological bent for starters, moreso if somebody chooses the label for his personal expediency.

I’m not interested in “post mortems” blaming whomever. But by the way, the wingnuts’ favorite blame (“She’s a TERRIBLE candidate, nobody likes her,” whatever) skips over her 3 MILLION more votes. Setting aside the FLUKE Constitutional mechanics that we happen to worship, which resulted in his “win,” it is ABSURD for such a way of his winning to result in a WHOLESALE, TOTAL FLIPPING/OVERTURNING of every single apparatus of governing policies. The “Governed” (us) did not express any such desire. There is no “mandate” for him to totally upend everything. And even now, just with the NAMES he has placed (more likely, been TOLD to place), without and before their even taking any action, is enough to strike paralysis in anybody’s heart.

As asked of the local wingnut before, WHY DOESN’T IT STRIKE PARALYSIS IN *YOUR* HEART?! Another one of those questions he will never address.

As for “coming together” under whoever the winner is, that’s reserved for two candidates who are fairly comparable in their good will, not when this one is a FREAK of psychological make-up, judgment, and knowledge. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING he can do that can win me over, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. As arbitrary and erratic as he is, even if he throws ONE CRUMB our way, it is meaningless. He, whether for 4 years or who-knows FOR LIFE, has delivered the entire future of the country AND THE PLANET to a nefarious ideology. NOTHING GOOD CAN COME OF HIM. From the first words he uttered down to his current backing off of most of whatever he said, nobody can guess what he will actually do, besides all the harm he has already done. There are his CHUMP followers, CHUMPS for having believed him for starters, nefarious countries, and his inner circle – all engaged as we speak in scrambling to take him under their control. The political “world” and the natural “planet” are one big tinderbox, and him as a flammable string leading to a pile of dynamite is the last thing (literally) we need.

Am saying it: We LOSE because we *ARE* soft!1 Wingnuts send gutter fighters

They send street fighters, ATWATER, KKKarl, Roger STONE - the SCUM OF THE EARTH.

And we go for the "higher ground." Some of us claim to be "better than that."

NO, all of humans are a mixture of *EVERYTHING* good and bad.

My 69 years is of mostly NOBLE LOSING - Adlai, CARTER, MONDALE, GORE, KERRY, and Hil.

We're always better than they are - smarter, nobler, idealistic

Yet here we are (A- FUCKING- *AGAIN*!1)


I saw the moment when it was over: When DRUMPF growled at Hil and said, "Because you'd be in jail." And she flinched.

(This does NOT cancel out all the Russian crap.)


*******Please, flamers, just don't.

I'm not shocked with all the DRUMPF daily shenanigans. Am NUMB/neuropathy of the spirit, getting used to at least 4 years of COMPLETE DISPIRITEDNESS.

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