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Howard Dean says: Nancy Pelosi was the best Speaker since Tip O'Neill

Dean was on MSNBC maybe an hour ago, saying that. Sorry not to have total accuracy, but things have been hopping in my life this morning (California time).

The reason for this post is the inexplicable desire of some DUers to get rid of one of the most effective Dem politicians in the nation -- starting yesterday in a swarm.

I'll add to that: Howard Dean, aka The Good Dr. Dean, for a long time the most beloved and respected losing presidential candidate ever deified on Democratic Underground. (I'm sure someone will tell me if he's fallen from his pedestal here). No one, and I mean NO ONE on the Dem side ever told him to stfu after he lost, nor to maintain a dignified silence, nor to be ashamed of whatever speaking fees he got.

Nancy P is pro-choice, and her district knows it. She's also pro-LGBTQ, and her district knows it.

In favor of protecting immigrants, and her district knows it. Is a faithful Roman Catholic in her personal beliefs, and is not an Evangelical theocrat, and her district knows it. She suits them, and they continue electing her.

Her district, which encompasses the City of San Francisco, is only one of many, many Congressional districts in California, yet most of California's 10s of millions of voters know this about Nancy because she is prominent and a respected Democrat.

It's rather sad that alleged (or just plain ill-informed) Democrats outside California choose to believe RWNJ divisive propaganda about Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, who I hope will be Speaker of the House again one day. Because she is, in fact, good at what she does.

They're picking off the powerful Dem women one by one already, as someone pointed out...

We don't have Debbie W-S to kick around any more. Hillary should just stfu and maintain a dignified silence.

The "they" I'm talking about are alleged Democrats, btw. How soon before Kamala Harris, already coming under attack by the Senate GOP, is found wanting by alleged Dems because "she's been demonized"? Elizabeth Warren is already a favorite target of the GOP, but worshipped by some on our side as being *so* much better than Hillary. That is, she is worshipped *at the moment*.

Why in hell is this, and why in hell are "they" out in force today at Democratic Underground? I have a few ideas, and I am not happy. At least a lot of people with sense are fighting back.

Dear and Glorious Leader, there's an ointment for those ass-hickeys you've got...

With all respect and a grateful heart,
Feeling blessed,
Your Subject

Strangely enough, Hillary WON. She got 3,000,000 more votes than Trump. About 66,000,000....

...of us were plenty energized for Hillary. Yet day in and day out the pundits bellyache about white male racists and "energized" young people and how their fee-fees were hurt. How about the feelings of the 66,000,000?

Persist. Whatever SHE wants to do. Continue telling the truth about what happened....

I just now finished watching her interview with Cheryl Strayed on Book TV. Like her previous interviews and speeches, it was intelligent, rational, analytical, warm, and completely without self-pity.

Hillary is far more worried about the future of American democracy with Trump-Bannon-Putin in charge than she is concerned with nursing her personal feelings. Because of that concern, she will continue to speak about the assault on our democracy and how it took place and is still happening.

But because this is Hillary Clinton we're talking about, there are people more interested in questioning her motives and telling her to stfu, than in heeding what she has to say. For some reason or other this gets on my last nerve.

Beep boop beep!

Bless Chas Pierce for saying this forcefully. We MUST have Hillary's back.

I watched the talking heads take her words apart and distort the hell out of them after her commencement address at Wellesley and at the Codecon. Where I saw, once again, a highly rational thinker expressing herself intelligently and dispassionately, they insisted once again on a narrative that she was bitter, relitigating, rehashing, not taking personal responsibility, and on and on ad nauseum.

What it boils down to is: Be Ashamed of Yourself, Hillary, and SHUT UP and GO AWAY.

Once again folks: She won by 3 million votes even after gerrymandering, voter suppression, and ethnic cleansing of voter rolls. She won by 3 million votes even after our election was hacked in what amounts to an Act of War.

And the majority of the media pundits want her to STFU about this cancer eating our body politic. They want to make it all about her, and she is trying to make people understand that it is NOT all about her.

Are we going to let them do this to her? Are we going to let them do this to America?

Not just no, but Hell No. Let's all vow to have her back -- and be vigilant even at DU.

We have to have her back. Every time she speaks out, in any venue, there is an outcry of "Shut Up!"

Oh sure, what the media, the GOP, and some Dems SAY is: "She shouldn't whine about the election she lost. Rehashing. Relitigating. That's just such bad optics." Rinse, repeat. What every single one of them MEANS is: "The little lady needs to sit down and shut the hell up. Shutupshutupshutupshutup."

All I have to say to that is Hell No. All of us need to bear in mind that a lot of people want her to be silenced and invisible. To hell with them all.

MAGA: Completely isolate the US, kick out "foreign" manufacturers like BMW who employ Americans...

...refuse to uphold agreements signed by previous administrations...

Meanwhile, the rest of the world will move on, leaving "great" America in the dust. How long before they all conclude that they don't need us?

Remember the hubristic PNAC? Well, I hate to tell the idiots who love Bannon and Trump, but the "New American Century" is not going to be the 21st century. Old Neocons can see that, in spades -- Frum looks sick at heart.

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