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Gidney N Cloyd

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Hometown: Elk Grove Vil, IL
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Some of the posts on DU lately brought an old Emo Phillips joke to mind...

Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!"
He said, "Nobody loves me."
I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?"
He said, "Yes."
I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?"
He said, "A Christian."
I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?"
He said, "Protestant."
I said, "Me, too! What franchise?"
He said, "Baptist."
I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?"
He said, "Northern Baptist."
I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist."
I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?"
He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region."
I said, "Me, too!" Northern Conservative†Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?"
He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912."
I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Sun Aug 6, 2017, 02:30 PM (27 replies)

Gerald R. Ford, our only Eagle Scout president

Not that I'm a big Jerry Ford fan (though I'm sure they're legion) but I thought this was an interesting contrast to Trump's whatthefuckery at the Boy Scout Jamboree.

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Remembering Gerald R. Ford, our only Eagle Scout president (so far)
https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2015/02/16/gerald-ford-eagle-scout-president/

On Presidents Day, let’s remember Gerald R. Ford, our 38th president and, at least so far, the only Eagle Scout to ascend to the most powerful post in the country.

Ford, who earned the Eagle Scout award in 1927 as a member of Troop 15 in Grand Rapids, Mich., went on to receive the Distinguished Eagle Scout Award in 1970.

In December 1974, while president of the U.S., Ford spoke at the Boy Scouts’ Annual Awards Dinner. That’s where he offered this gem of a quote:

It has recently been said that I am too much of a Boy Scout in the way I have conducted myself as President, and so I reviewed the Boy Scout laws and Boy Scout oath.

They say that a Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent. That is not bad for somebody who knew it 46 years ago.

And the Boy Scout oath is, “On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country, to obey the Scout laws, to help other people at all times, to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.”

Well, if these are not the goals of the people of the United States, what they want their President to live up to, then I must draw this conclusion: Either you have the wrong man or I have the wrong country, and I don’t believe either is so.


When Ford died in December 2006, his family requested an honor guard of 200 Eagle Scouts. They knew how important Scouting was to the man throughout his life.
In fact, 400 Eagle Scouts — age 15 to 85 — showed up to line the road to his presidential museum in Grand Rapids.

A fitting memorial to the man who once said, “One of the proudest moments of my life came in the court of honor when I was awarded the Eagle Scout badge. I still have that badge. It is a treasured possession.”
Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Tue Jul 25, 2017, 11:40 AM (4 replies)

Author of Trumps Favorite Voter Fraud Study Says Everyones Wrong

https://www.wired.com/2017/01/author-trumps-favorite-voter-fraud-study-says-everyones-wrong/

It sounds like, for starters, the trumpledytes are conflating two different studies...

The problem, says Richman, who identifies as a political moderate, is that the Trump administration’s interpretation of his report is totally off. “Trump and others have been misreading our research and exaggerating our results to make claims we don’t think our research supports,” Richman says. “I’m not sure why they continue to do it, but there’s not much I can do about that aside from set the record straight.”

In an interview airing tonight on ABC News, President Trump also pointed to an actual Pew Research report about outdated voter rolls, but according to its own author, that report found no instances of voter fraud.

Now, Richman’s study and the Pew Report are set to become the foundation of the Trump administration’s newly promised investigation into potential voter fraud—whatever Richman says about their interpretation of his findings. The political exploitation of Richman’s work is a blow against intellectual honesty and scientific integrity. What’s more, voting rights advocates fear the investigation it’s being used to prop up could lead to severe voting restrictions in the future.
Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Thu Jan 26, 2017, 12:34 PM (0 replies)

I'm sure Trump's threat to send Feds into Chicago for the 'carnage' has nothing to due with this...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-donald-trump-chicago-street-signs-removed-met-1207-20161206-story.html

After much fanfare from Chicago aldermen over the righteousness of tearing down President-elect Donald Trump's honorary street signs, city workers quietly removed the placards over the weekend.

A city sign shop crew pulled down the remaining two street signs on Wabash Avenue near Trump Tower at 8 a.m. Sunday, according to Chicago Department of Transportation spokesman Michael Claffey. A third Trump sign was stolen months ago

The City Council voted a week before the Nov. 8 presidential election to take down the signs, citing the "caricature" of Chicago that Trump presented during the campaign through his frequent mentions of the city as a place overrun with violent crime. Aldermen also knocked Trump's pledge to deport millions of immigrants in the country illegally in voting to take away the street sign honor.
Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:04 PM (20 replies)

Just kind of musing here, but it's driving Trump voters NUTS that they can't enjoy their victory.

Everywhere I turn, from Facebook to comments sections on news sites, they're ranting and rehashing all their anti-Hillary, anti-Obama nonsense. These are the sorest winners I've ever seen. The mainstream news media keeps bringing up uncomfortable stories about Trumps staffing picks, his financial dealings, the Russian influence, mixed support from Republicans. And the entertainment media like SNL isn't allowing him any kind of typical honeymoon period (they went a lot easier on Dubya at this point). Normalizing Trump isn't taking.
It just seems weird that so many Trump voters are unable to sit back and say 'hey, we won.' Victory isn't enough as long as the rest of us don't fall in line. Think maybe they're trying to convince themselves of something?
Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:43 PM (48 replies)

"If you think this country's bad off now just wait til I get through with it"

Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Wed Aug 31, 2016, 10:27 PM (4 replies)

Equal Time with Rudy Boudelang


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For you DU youngsters, we used to have a regular feature here (ghost)written by one of the admins:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/bob/02/67.html
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I could not find quite the right fonts but I think I caught the spirit.
Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Tue Jul 19, 2016, 12:07 PM (3 replies)

Conan on Orlando shooting last night: "Time to grow up and figure this out."

Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:10 PM (2 replies)

Blast from the past (2004): "Scalia Was Cheney Hunt Trip Guest; Ethics Concern Grows"

(from the 'History that makes you go hmmm' files.)

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/feb/05/nation/na-ducks5

Scalia Was Cheney Hunt Trip Guest; Ethics Concern Grows
February 05, 2004|David G. Savage and Richard A. Serrano | Times Staff Writers

PATTERSON, La. — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia traveled as an official guest of Vice President Dick Cheney on a small government jet that served as Air Force Two when the pair came here last month to hunt ducks.

The revelation cast further doubts about whether Scalia can be an impartial judge in Cheney's upcoming case before the Supreme Court, legal ethics experts said. The hunting trip took place just weeks after the high court agreed to take up Cheney's bid to keep secret the details of his energy policy task force.

According to those who met them at the small airstrip here, the justice and the vice president flew from Washington on Jan. 5 and were accompanied by a second, backup Air Force jet that carried staff and security aides to the vice president. ...Cheney and Scalia were whisked away in a heavily guarded motorcade to a secluded, private hunting camp owned by an oil industry businessman.

Several experts in legal ethics questioned whether Scalia should decide the case. "In my view, this further ratchets it up. If the vice president is the source of generosity, it means Scalia is accepting a gift of some value from a litigant in a case before him," said New York University law professor Stephen Gillers. "It is not just a trip with a litigant. It's a trip at the expense of the litigant. This is an easy case for stepping aside."

Aides to Cheney say the vice president, like the president, is entitled to travel to vacation spots on government jets and to take along guests at no cost. Judges are bound by different rules, however. Federal law says that "any justice or judge shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might be questioned."

When asked about the trip last month, Scalia confirmed that he had gone duck hunting with Cheney, but said he did not see a need to withdraw from the case.
Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:38 PM (4 replies)

Ex-Illinois Gov. Edgar (R), who backed Rauner, now slams him

Kind of a fun read. Rauner's ham-fisted quest to union-bust his way to a capitalist paradise in Illinois is itself-- the mere goals-- tearing the state to pieces. Somehow I don't think the Tribune will be picking this up off the wire...
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/kevin-mcdermott/political-buyer-s-remorse-ex-illinois-gov-edgar-who-backed/article_858ca9ee-23eb-5e70-b86d-30d190bd8896.html
Former Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar — who last year campaigned for current Gov. Bruce Rauner, a fellow Republican — comes pretty close to savaging the rookie governor in a new interview out this weekend regarding the state's budget impasse.

In the interview with the Springfield State Journal-Register, Edgar says state government is in the worst shape he's ever seen it, and he lays a big part of the blame on Rauner.

Among other things, he says, Rauner is wrong to hold the budget "hostage" over non-budgetary policy goals; that his confrontations with Democratic legislative leaders have been counter-productive and unwisely focused on "personalities"; that the impasse is having real human consequence and endangering the state's vaunted higher education tradition; and that even Rauner's stated top goal — making Illinois more business-friendly — is being thwarted by his administration's actions.

"He does not come from government," Edgar said of Rauner, a venture capitalist before winning his first-ever political campaign in November to become governor. "He doesn't even really come from mainstream business. He comes from (being an) entrepreneur where you buy a business, you tear it apart and you sell it. ... I don't think you're going to tear apart the state and sell it. He might want to, but you can't do that."

In what probably qualifies as the worst thing anyone can say about an Illinois governor these days, Edgar said Rauner's government is, in some ways, worse than the government was under now-imprisoned ex-Gov. Rod Blagojevich. While Edgar stressed in the interview than Blagojevich, a Democrat, wasn't "anything close to being a better governor" than Rauner, "at least Blagojevich ... was off doing his crazy things and state government kind of continued to move along. I don't think state government's moving along right now. I mean, I just think too many things are at a standstill."
Posted by Gidney N Cloyd | Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:24 PM (7 replies)
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