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Police legally seizing guns under Washington red flag laws - The Parkland Effect

And see, the second amendment has not gone up in flames:

"SEATTLE – Alexander Mckenzie, a 31-year-old Army veteran who, according to court documents, is being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder, recently had his gun confiscated by the Seattle Police Department even though he had committed no crime.

It’s one of 27 guns seized legally by the Seattle Police Department from 16 individuals since last July under Washington State’s new Extreme Risk Protection Order law.

McKenzie had been acting strange, glaring at customers of a pizza restaurant while carrying his handgun. He now agrees with the firearm seizure.

“I’m grateful that the police got the gun away from me,” McKenzie told Fox News.

Washington is one of six states with high risk or red flag laws. But in the wake of the Parkland school shooting, the Brady Campaign says at least 30 states are considering them."



Seattle Police First To Seize Gun Under Washington’s New Mental Health Law

"In the wake of a recent rash of mass shootings in the United States, the Seattle Police Department became the first in the state of Washington to confiscate a citizen’s gun under a newly-enacted law. The law, called an “Extreme Risk Protection Order,” allows police officers in the state to disarm and confiscate the weapons from people deemed to be a danger to others or to themselves.

As KOMO News reports, the private citizen who had his .25 caliber gun confiscated has not been publicly named. However, he was reportedly “well known” to his neighbors for wandering the hallways of his Belltown apartment complex carrying his gun, as well as for “staring down” customers of local businesses while packing his weapon. According to Seattle police, the unidentified man had been making people uncomfortable and intimidating them for approximately a year before his gun was confiscated."


For Many Facebook Users, a Last Straw That Led Them to Quit


"Debates over privacy have plagued Facebook for years.

But the news that Cambridge Analytica, a political data firm that worked on President Trump’s 2016 campaign, was able to gain access to private data through the social network has sparked an unusually strong reaction among its users.

The hashtag #DeleteFacebook appeared more than 10,000 times on Twitter within a two-hour period on Wednesday, according to the analytics service ExportTweet. On Tuesday, it was mentioned 40,398 times, according to the analytics service Digimind."


There may be a lot of reasons to stay on Faceplant, social, work, personal, etc., but there is the fact they were complicit in undermining democracy around the world by going to bed with a company that they allowed, for $$$$, no doubt, to seize personal information on 50 million American users with just a pinkie swear they would not misuse it?? FB was at least willfully blind with customers personal information while at the same time they loudly proclaim to protect it. Fool me once...

Is that not a good reason enough? Also, perhaps employers, schools, businesses, institutions, workplaces, etc. maybe need to start a conversation with their stakeholders about whether supporting an usurper of democracy is good idea - no matter how useful, is it worth that price?

If you are on FB, are you planning on deleting?

Is "Russian bot" the best term to use to identify real person troll farm postings?

Not only at DU, but generally?

Voting options below. Suggestions?
Posted by Fred Sanders | Sun Mar 4, 2018, 01:58 PM (8 replies)

AFL-CIO lauds Trump's tariffs The Hill

Over the top headline, but the tariffs being approved by unions has to be news you can use.

The nation's largest federation of unions on Thursday praised President Trump's plan to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, even as GOP lawmakers in Congress and U.S. trade partners condemned the proposal.

"For years, we have called attention to the predatory practices of some steel exporting countries. Such practices hurt working people and cheat companies that produce in the U.S. We applaud the administration's efforts today to fix this problem," AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement.

"Trump also received sharp rebukes for the plan by Republicans in Congress, warning of the tax burden such tariffs might impose on working Americans."



Would tariffs on steel (25% import) and aluminum (10%) be a net positive or a net negative for the economy and blue collar workers?
Posted by Fred Sanders | Fri Mar 2, 2018, 09:49 PM (7 replies)

Republican governments are willing to impose government sanctions on domestic corporations for

exercising their first amendment rights*, while refusing to support sanctions on a hostile foreign nation attempting to interfere with those same first amendment rights? All in aid of a single tax exempt, social welfare non-profit?

Have I got that right?

*see Citizens United for the irony

Are Republican state government threats to punish corporations for exercising their first amendment rights illegal and unconstitutional?
Posted by Fred Sanders | Thu Mar 1, 2018, 10:22 AM (0 replies)

"Angel Force" to support Stoneman Douglas students at orientation - WSN 7News

PARKLAND, FLA. (WSVN) - A special group will be showing support for the students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School ahead of the voluntary orientation on campus, Sunday.

The Angel Force plan to spread their wings at the school, Sunday afternoon.

South Florida officials and community members will take part by wearing the symbolic costume, which is known for being a source of comfort and healing since 1993.

Back in 2016, the angels appeared after the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando.

The voluntary orientation is for students, parents and staff members, between 3 p.m. and 6 p.m.



Full article, but also video clip

Mueller Files New Charges in Russia Probe

Source: CN

Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Tuesday filed a new charge against a man they say lied to federal investigators in the probe of alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

A charging document filed in federal court in Washington accuses Alex Van Der Zwaan of one charge of making false statements. Attorney Van Der Zwaan is expected to appear before a judge Tuesday afternoon at the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.

According to the two-page indictment, Van Der Zwaan made “false fictitious and fraudulent statements in a matter within the jurisdiction of the executive branch of the Government of the United States” and allegedly lied to agents at the FBI. Specifically, it notes Van Der Zwaan may have deleted emails connected to his most recent communications with Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide who was indicted last year on charges of conspiracy to launder money and acting as an unregistered foreign agent.

Van Der Zwaan worked for a legal firm hired by the Ukraine’s Ministry of Justice, preparing a formal report on the trial of former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

PDF document here:


Read more: https://www.courthousenews.com/mueller-files-new-charge-in-russia-probe/

Rob Reiner has posted a series of gun control and anti-Trump tweets. Fox has lost it 's mind.

Posting because we do not have a How The Fox Propaganda Machine Works. Now with Putin input.

The article is actually fair and balanced:

"Following the news of a Florida school shooting, Rob Reiner attacked "GOP patriots" and called for an end to Trump's presidency.

On Sunday, the famed Hollywood filmmaker took to Twitter to accuse the government of putting the president before the lives of children and the country.

The Hollywood writer and director tweeted, "How much longer do we have to put up with a mentally ill sociopath? When the f---ed up psyche of the leader of the free world comes before the horrific deaths of innocent children, it’s time for GOP patriots to stand up and end this sickness."


"There are 21,000,000 reasons why Donald Trump refuses to protect our children from being slaughtered by guns. The NRA has deep pockets. But we will show them that our hearts and our pockets are deeper than theirs," Reiner wrote."

But scroll to the comments section. Putin's anti-gun control bots have been put on hyperdrive.

Not a single positive gun control post and the level of language, not to mention disturbing and offensive, is....Russian bot level.

God forgive me for posting a Fox link here, it is for a Greater cause...so I hope I do not get alerted for violating TOS re: RW sites, given my explanation.

Was going to Ask the Administrators first but there is a bit of a wait, completely understandable.



Poll Question:

Is this a Fox/Bot operation?*

*my definitions, cause I can

EDIT: Bot attack ended at around midnight, Moscow time.

The NRA only supports a bastardized version of the antiquated second amendment.

"Today at the NRA’s headquarters in Fairfax, Virginia, oversized letters on the facade no longer refer to “marksmanship” and “safety.” Instead, the Second Amendment is emblazoned on a wall of the building’s lobby. Visitors might not notice that the text is incomplete. It reads:

“.. the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

The first half—the part about the well regulated militia—has been edited out."



Fuckers even lie about what they say they support...and the lie is enshrined in carved granite.

Rest of article is reference quality information of all things second amendment.
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