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Personal carry not authorized - Weapons in secure locations around campus for a select few...

Heard a story today on CNN I think...

Some school in Ohio (probably) doesn't allow concealed or open carry by teachers, principals or employees but does have a team with monthly training who have access to safes around the campus with weapons in them (don't know if handguns only or rifles)

Supposedly the identity of these individuals is kept secret but I'm sure they aren't hard to pick out. Mr. Smith the 30 something Afghanistan veteran and PT coach vs 75 year old Mrs. Rasmussen from the library who shouldn't even be driving.

Accepting the increased cost of weapons, safes, training and upkeep... Whatever we do is going to cost money... Is this a step that both sides could accept? For some, the answer is an obvious "No" because it increases guns.

Maybe it saves lives though. Maybe it doesn't

This almost seems like a happy medium between Mrs. Frizzle with a Glock 19 in a shoulder holster and no response capacity at all.

The safes would have to be very secure. Embedded in the concrete or the like... Opening a safe immediately alerts authorities.

I'd also put in a duress code to lock the safe for 48 hours and alert police. Some secure form of identification to first responders.

Pros and cons all around but it seemed more reasonable than most suggestions I've heard in the last week.

Again... I realize that to some the goal is to get rid of guns. A more realistic or at least intermediate goal could be to save lives and do something to make schools a harder target.

Thoughts?

6 Reasons Your Right-Wing Friend Isnt Coming To Your Side On Gun Control

"There are several reasons Second Amendment advocates aren’t running to your side of the argument, and it might not be the ones you think."

http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/06/6-reasons-right-wing-friend-isnt-coming-side-gun-control/

1. We Rarely Get to Come to the Conversation in Good Faith

2. The ‘Blood on Their Hands’ Attacks Are Offensive

3. The Loudest Voices Are Often the Most Ignorant

4. The Most Prominent Policy Ideas Have Nothing to Do With the Tragedy

5. We Seriously Don’t Care About Gun Laws in Other Countries

6. We Really Do Consider Owning Firearms a Right

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I always find it helpful to look at a problem from all sides. Very few folks see themselves as the enemy.

Author, source etc... all on the other side of the spectrum but in the end the question should be "Do we want to fight?" or "Do we want results? If so, what are those...?"

Working with some good faith could go a long ways...

edit: Added the 6 Reasons. More at the article...

538.com's Interactive Gun Death Statistics Chart

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/

It really helps keep things in perspective. Give it a try...

edit: Gun* ... Typing one handed is hard and slow...

Media bias chart...Accurate?

In all the doom and gloom "What ifs"... This is the first time I heard this one about SCOTUS...

He could make a case to expand the size of the court to whatever.... Let's call it 15...

Imagine 6 new supreme court justices in their 40s and 50s...

FDR tried it in the day but was shut down by his own party. Does anyone think that would happen again this time? I don't...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Procedures_Reform_Bill_of_1937

Ezra Klein podcast - How Democracy Dies - https://www.vox.com/ezra-klein-show-podcast

Audible version of "Fire and Fury" is up...

I chuckled all the way to work...

Evangelicals are not a religious group...

.. But rather a political one and should be treated as such.

Roy Moore said he expects a recount but he wont be getting one unless he pays for it

Source: Salon

Instead of conceding the Alabama Senate election to Democratic candidate Doug Jones, the Republican Roy Moore insisted that he would ask for a recount of the results.

"I really want to thank you for coming tonight and when the vote is this close — that it's not over. And we still got to go by the rules and recount provision and the secretary of state has explained it to us and we're expecting that the press will go up there and talk to them to find out what the situation is," Moore told his supporters in his post-election speech. He added, "But we also know that God is always in control."

Unfortunately for Moore, it won't be easy for him to simply obtain a recount, given that Jones defeated him by a large margin. Jones won 49.9 percent of the votes cast compared to Moore's 48.4 percent, according to Politico. While Jones also bested Moore by more than 21,000 votes, it is the difference in percentage points that determines whether an automatic recount is triggered. In Alabama, the difference needs to be 0.5 percentage points or less for that to happen, making the difference between Jones and Moore roughly three times too large.

In order for Moore to obtain a recount, therefore, he will need to pay for it out of pocket, as Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill told CNN's Jake Tapper.

Anna Massoglia

@annalecta
AL Secretary of State tells @jaketapper the Alabama Senate election results are not close enough to qualify for automatic recount at this point, but state law says “Any candidate can ask for a recount—and if they pay for it, they receive it.” #ALSen
8:41 PM - Dec 12, 2017 · Washington, DC

Read more: https://www.salon.com/2017/12/13/roy-moore-said-he-expects-a-recount-but-he-wont-be-getting-one-unless-he-pays-for-it/

DNC 'unity' panel recommends huge cut in superdelegates

Source: Politico

A commission set up to help reform the Democratic presidential nominating process has voted to restrict the number of superdelegates as part of a slew of changes.

The Democratic Party’s Unity Reform Commission is recommending cutting the number of superdelegates by about 400, equal to a 60 percent reduction. Many of the remaining superdelegates would see their vote tied to the results in their state.
...

The recommendations will now go to the Democratic National Committee’s rules and bylaws committee, and then likely to the full 447-member Democratic National Committee for consideration sometime next year, where it will need two-thirds support to pass.

“It’s not going to be about 447 people, it’s going to be about millions of people and how they pick up this challenge and this path,” said Larry Cohen, the former president of the Communication Workers of America who was appointed to this commission by 2016 candidate Bernie Sanders.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/09/dnc-superdelegates-unity-commission-288634



Progress... See where it goes...

Why these Alabama voters are sticking by Roy Moore (HBO)

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Even Frank Luntz... fucking Frank Luntz can't believe what he's hearing...
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