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Mitch McConnell has always been suspiciously supportive of unlimited amounts of money in politics.

Just saying.

Remember the Grand Bargain between Trump, Netanyahu, MBS, MBZ, and Putin.

Putin wanted an end to sanctions, weakening of NATO and the European Union, and a free hand in Ukraine and elsewhere in the “Russian sphere of influence.”

Netanyahu wanted more control over the Palestinians (and Israel in general), more unquestioning support from the US, a free hand in settlements in the Palestinian territories, and an aggressively hostile stance toward Iran.

The Gulf monarchies (specifically Saudi Arabia and the UAE) also wanted an aggressively hostile stance toward Iran - and more arms sales, nuclear technology, more support for their war in Yemen, and an end to US support for any kind of democratic or liberal movements in the Arab world.

All of them hated or grew to hate Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. All of them wanted more wealth, more power, and access to the President and his inner circle - including his family. All of them wanted no criticism and no accountability. And all of them were willing to pay top dollar to the political and business leaders of the USA - the world’s superpower - in exchange for it. And the less democratic the US itself became, the more corrupt our so-called leaders and our institutions became, all the better for them!

What’s your verdict, DU?

As a Sanders supporter, I share the age concerns. And I also would like a Democratic woman POTUS

Perhaps Sanders for President, Warren (or Klobuchar) for Vice President, and Sanders serves one term and then Vice President Warren or Klobuchar runs in 2024?

I’d support that.

Quantifying evil is strange. If someone kills 50 people as opposed to 100, are they any less evil?

What about a serial rapist who never murders anyone? What about a white-collar sociopath who defrauds investors, even if only his or her own family and friends?

Moreover, as far as I know, the only human life Hitler ever personally took was his own. By that standard, he has nothing on Ted Bundy or Stephen Paddock. Or does he? Is it in fact more evil to have other people kill on your behalf than at least have the “courage” to do the deed yourself?

What about one’s motives and intentions - in addition to the consequences of one’s actions and the actions themselves? What’s in the human heart?

Behold, the Party of Rapture-welcoming fanatics, power-hungry cynics, and far-right nihilists.

I’m talking, of course, about the Republican Party, the modern one.

Democrats (and many/most Independents) recognize the existential threat we’re facing, and are doing their damnedest to stop it.

Republicans (ie. Trump supporters) also recognize the existential threat we’re facing, and are eagerly doing their damndest to speed it along.

That’s the difference. That’s a key root of our polarization, layered with centuries of all-American foundations of racism, xenophobia. sexism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, spiced with Fake News from hostile foreign actors like Vladimir Putin (a jaded KGB man and resentful cynic himself - no wonder Trump and other Republicans like him) along with the existing far-right media infrastructure of Murdoch’s rags + FOX, talk radio, Sinclair, OneAmerica, Breitbart, InfoWars, the NRA, the white supremacist evangelicals and neo-Birchers...ok, I’m rambling, but you get the gist I hope.

There are more of us than there are of them. But they’ll stop at nothing, because they have no shame, no scruples, no sense of or care for basic notions of right or wrong. For them, it’s all about blowing up the world to spite the rest of us. That’s where we are now...

Yes! Count me in as a member of the Against Normalizing Trump club.

Why hasn't Trump been impeached for ongoing violations of the Emoluments Clause?

That is well documented and seems to be very clearly “using the Presidency for personal and/or political gain.” Easily falls under impeachable offenses.

What’s going on at Trump International Hotel? What’s going on at Mar-e-Lago? Who’s financing Trump’s properties that are supervised by his kids and the Trump Organization - all of which 45 is continually briefed on. So much for “divesting.”

What about the Inaugural Committee? Or Trump’s re-election campaign? The graft never fucking ends...

Even if there were no overt ties to Russian interference in the 2016 (and now, 2020) presidential election on Trump’s behalf (and there are), even if there were no Mueller investigation or FBI counterintelligence investigation, even if there wasn’t the quid pro quo with Ukraine, even if there wasn’t obstruction if justice and lying and witness tampering and threats to whistleblowers - even if none or most of the above hadn’t happened (and it did and is ongoing, of course), Trump and his family and their associates have still been brazenly profiting off of the Presidency while dealing in corrupt influence-peddling with foreign governments and a lot of unprecedented, unregulated lobbying from very rich and powerful people. How is THAT not impeachable?!

Khashoggi was not a dissident reporter until very late in his life.

He (and his family going back to his grandfather) was well-connected to the House of Saud - as well-connected as, for example, the bin Laden family.

He even worked for long-time head of Saudi intelligence and then Ambassador to the United Kingdom and (briefly) the United States Prince Turki bin Faisal - who had been Osama bin Laden’s patron in the 1980s war in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union. And Khashoggi publicly defended MBS, at least initially. His conversion to full-fledged Saudi dissident happened within the last year or two of his life.

I’m inclined to believe this story.

Trump's political advantages are based in racism and sexism.

Therefore, we should nominate someone who fuels Trump’s cultural grievance advantages.


Jamal Khashoggi "knew a lot about the Saudi government's involvement in 9/11", said families' lawyer

This was from two months ago (November 2019).

Why was Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi murdered?

Speculation about the motive for Khashoggi’s assassination inside Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Istanbul has centered on his outspoken criticism of the Saudi government and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, also known as MBS, in opinion pieces published in the Post. Now, a new potential motive is in play.

“Khashoggi was killed not because he was a dissident, but because of his contact with us,” said James Kreindler, a prominent New York attorney who represents thousands of 9/11 family members and survivors who are suing Saudi Arabia.

“As we told the Washington Post the last contact I had with Mr. Khashoggi was via text on Oct 26 2017. I never talked to him by phone and certainly never suggested he go to Turkey for any reason. I ask the government to release any information regarding this claim,” Khalid (bin Salman, brother of MBS and son of King Salman) wrote on Twitter on Nov. 16, 2018.

According to Kreindler, Oct. 26, 2017 was also the day Khashoggi had met with an investigator for the 9/11 families in Washington.

“Khashoggi was part of the intelligence community and we knew he knew a lot about the Saudi government’s involvement in 9/11. He was connected to the Muslim Brotherhood and to [former Saudi Crown Prince] Muhammad bin Nayef, and that’s the reason our investigator went to speak with him,” said Kreindler. “She said would you come to New York and talk to my boss? He said yes.

“I’m sure that as soon as she left, he called KBS [Khalid bin Salman] and said, ‘Look, the 9/11 lawyers are on to me. They know that I know what you guys did and I didn’t give ‘em anything, but you’re holding my kid in Saudi Arabia and if you harm him I will.’ So my belief is that Khashoggi was killed not because he was a dissident, there are lots of dissidents, but because he was holding this ax over the Saudis’ heads.”

Exactly what Khashoggi might have known, if anything, about the government of Saudi Arabia’s involvement in 9/11 may never be known. No information was obtained from Khashoggi during the October 2017 session. “It was a preliminary meeting,” said Kreindler.

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