Women's bodies are not YOURS to control MF's!

[Ripley]

And by MF's I mean every damned male and female in a position of power in the government and churches who think they can force all women to produce babies because they had sex. Let's use real language, not "ladies parts" and uterophobia, you ignorant foolish bottom-of-the-human-evolution-chain organized freakshow people.

NOTHING is more sacred than the control of one's own physical body.

And NO other person has the right to control my body.

Stop treating women as objects in your political games and religious stories.

[niyad]

1. but women are nothing but chattel, don't you know?

[Keith Bee]

2. Unless, of course, men are married to them

:evilgrin: K&R

[roguevalley]

9. time to take a two by four to this motherfuckers. I can't relive this

shit all over again. What the hell?!

THey want to ABOLISH BIRTH CONTROL! Make sure that you get that out there. They are after BIRTH CONTROL! Repressed, regressive, inbred MFs. May they all go to hell.

[uppityperson]

19. Even if married to a man, women still control their own bodies and lives.

[Xipe Totec]

3. K&R!

Hi Ripley!

With you 100% on this subject.

[Ripley]

6. Thanks

Xipe Totec!

Seems like a subject that would be understandable here...

[Xenotime]

4. Who here feels women are being used as trading pieces?

[Ripley]

5. Only someone unable to get pregnant

would ask that.

[corpseratemedia]

7. republicans are NOT allowed to complain about the taliban

.

[tahrir]

8. the american taliban

they make me sick :puke:

[Manifestor_of_Light]

10. Wasn't it Bob Barr who made his wife get an abortion???

Anybody else remember that little tidbit from the 90s? Congressman from GA, I believe.

[avaistheone1]

15. I remember.

Barr stated he didn't make his wife get an abortion, however he literally wrote the check for it.
At the time Barr was conducting his own affair.

[avaistheone1]

16. .

[Zoeisright]

11. These fuckheads know nothing about medical ethics.

The overriding principle in medical ethics is autonomy. Which means:

Your body is yours to control.

Privacy is paramount.

You make decisions about what treatments you want and those you refuse.

PERIOD.

[I Drink Water]

12. Isn't this a bit dramatic? No one was overturning Roe v Wade.

[uppityperson]

18. All they were doing was trying to take away affordable contraception and health care for

stds, HIV tests, PAP smears. Have you any idea how many women depend on PP for their female health care? How many would end up further in poverty if they were unable to control when or if they got pregnant and had to deal with the economics of having a baby?

Dramatic? Hardly.

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[uppityperson]

23. This is the best you can do? Good grief.

You are a parasite if you get an std check that you don't pay for yourself. Or if you get a PAP smear. Or if you get a contraceptive prescription. Unless you have insurance that you totally pay for and even then you are a parasite since you aren't being self reliant.

What if you go to a public school, or drive on a public road, or call the fire department if you have a fire? Do you grow all your own food? Have your own electric company? Did you make your own computer?

THIS is the best you can do with a first post?

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[I Drink Water]

25. I agree with you here. What I found dramatic were some of your allegations.

"who think they can force all women to produce babies because they had sex" and "And NO other person has the right to control my body."

I find those statements to be over-the-top and rather fallacious. Hence, dramatic.

[uppityperson]

27. those weren't my allegations.

[I Drink Water]

29. Sorry, you are right. I confused you with the OP.

[uppityperson]

30. Being curious, what other person do you think has the right to control your body?

[I Drink Water]

33. If you are emancipated, then no one.

[Ripley]

34. Then why is my post

"over-the-top and rather fallacious. Hence, dramatic."

You seem very confused.

[I Drink Water]

36. I am not the confused one. No one is forcing you to do anything with your body.

While Planned Parenthood provides a myriad of good services, the attempt to de-fund them is not that same thing as over turning Wade v Roe. You are certainly not being forced to have a child when you don't want to and no one was trying to control your body.

[uppityperson]

37. If you cannot afford $50-100/month for birth control pills because PP was defunded, yes they are.

If you cannot afford reliable contraception because the place you got it from is no longer in business, yes, they are trying to control your body. If you cannot afford an STD or HIV test because PP is defunded, they are trying to control your body. If you cannot afford a PAP smear to test for cervical cancer because PP is defunded, they are trying to control your body.

These services are available at affordable rates for most women AND men. By defunding the, this puts much of this out of the reach of many.

How is this not trying to control your body?

[I Drink Water]

38. This is where we disagree and where I find you and the OP to be dramatic

Saying that you are being forced against your will and controlled because an institution that promotes safe sex policies didn't receive funding is hyperbolic.

Then to link that to being forced to have an child is a jump that Evel Knievel wouldn't make.

[uppityperson]

41. Let's try this another way, another example. Pretend you are an insulin dependent diabetic

Insulin and supplies cost you $50/month, is partially subsidized by the government since few people could afford the $500/month the insulin and supply makers charge. Funding is cut for this program. Would you feel controlled? Would you feel forced against your will? Why or why not?

[Hannah Bell]

13. people "control your body" already.

[Behind the Aegis]

14. "NOTHING is more sacred than the control of one's own physical body."

I agree and that point could be used in another thread on a different topic.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

17. K&R!

I am proud to stand with you.

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[CaliforniaPeggy]

22. Talk to the Republicans about upholding the Constitution.

They pick and choose what they like.

And enjoy your stay.

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[uppityperson]

28. hahahahahahahahaha Did you bother to read the rules you agreed to when you signed up?

No, we don't tolerate certain sorts here.

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[uppityperson]

32. Bye. Thanks mods.

[BadgerKid]

35. Just saw a story on 20/20 on April 8

having to do with the mental and physical abuse of girls and women as members a church cult. I, as a man, was horrified, and can't fathom how men, and moreover religious leaders, get away with this shit.

Elizabeth Vargas’ Yearlong Investigation Into The Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, Airs On “20/20,” Friday, April 8, 10-11 PM ET

Try to imagine the pain and humiliation of a teenage girl, just 16 years old, who says she was forced to stand in front of a New Hampshire church congregation and confess her "sin" of being pregnant. She says not only was she forced to confess her pregnancy, but also to ask for their forgiveness – with no mention of the man she says sexually abused her. After all, she says, the pastor told her it's better than being stoned to death as the bible describes. That is what Tina Anderson alleged happened to her at her ultra conservative Independent Fundamental Baptist, or IFB, Church. The IFB has thousands of congregations across the country, but many people have never heard of it. That was, until another woman, Jocelyn Zichterman, began a public campaign – armed with nothing but a computer and memories of her own alleged abuse that she says church beliefs can foster. And survivors are now coming out of the woodwork, to say she's not alone.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/pressroom/2011/04/a-religious-sub-culture-many-americans-have-never-heard-of-yet-has-thousands-of-churches-across-the-.html

[me b zola]

39. But hey, we've been told forever that we shouldn't worry

Republicans wouldn't destroy women's reproductive rights because then they wouldn't have a wedge issue. Yeah, I knew better when I was told that shit and I'm really pissed now.

[The Straight Story]

40. Your body, your choice. From abortion to where you smoke/drink, seat belts, helmets, etc

I am now, and have been, truly on the side of pro-choice people and the freedom to have control over your own body.

I don't want any MF's telling me what to do either - but that is gonna cost you as folks are going to call you, as they have me, a libertarian for not being in favor of the few in government dictating your choices.

[liberalhistorian]

42. I'm gonna have to disagree with you when it comes to

where you smoke and drink. Smoking can cause a myriad of physical issues for others nearby in public places, and secondhand smoke is a known health issue. And if you drink in your car while driving or choose to drink and drive, you are seriously endangering the lives of others on the road with you. No one is an island and no one lives in a vacuum. Your right to control your body ends when it affects the health and lives of others.

Now, that doesn't apply to abortion, as it doesn't affect anyone else except the woman making the decision. Same for wearing of helmets and similar situations.

[The Straight Story]

44. And some would say - abortion stops a beating heart, one that has no choice

At least with adults you can choose (unless someone has a gun to your head) where to drink and smoke.

And I am not talking about hospitals, etc here, I am talking about bars - a place no one NEEDS to go but choose to do so.

Speaking of endangering others, cars and their exhaust do a fine job of that, but I don't see people stopping driving over worries about how their habit is hurting others.

[uppityperson]

46. As others would say, that is an asinine saying.

[lunatica]

43. Haven't you noticed it's a favorite wedge issue

That and the gay agenda and illegal aliens taking all the jobs.

They've lost the gay agenda, at least for a while so they're doubling down on abortion. Soon we'll be hearing about the illegal aliens taking all the jobs that could go the homeless and the unemployed.

It's election season again.

[kestrel91316]

45. 40 years I have been saying that. WHY do we have to keep saying that?

WHY are people so thick????

Jebus H. Christ on a pogo stick. I own my own self. I am nobody's slave, reproductive or otherwise.