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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:14 PM
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Why doesn't the international coalition strike at Libyan oil fields?
What better way to stop Gaddafi's ability to wage war? Deprive him of oil.

This action would probably send world oil prices skyrocketing, but what does that matter? We've been ensured that this is not a war for oil and the main objective is to stop Gaddafi's attacks on civilians.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:16 PM
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1. Sounds like a great idea. Can't wage war if you can't pay for it.
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:17 PM
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2. I'm not quite seeing the logic here...
Deprive him of oil... and he'll stop attacking his people?
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:17 PM
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3. Are you out of your mind, keeping the pumps running is
all it is about anyway.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:28 PM
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13. the pumps were already running.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:29 PM
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15. Well, kinda....
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 05:30 PM by Cali_Democrat
Oil exports are currently less than 1/4 of what it was prior to the civil war.
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:18 PM
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4. Wouldn't that cause an environmental catastrophy?
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:19 PM
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5. So you are suggesting creating an environmental disaster?
He's has already paid for the weapons and with the navies cruising around, he isn't getting anymore weapons even if he has the money (which he does).

Also, his weapons aren't in the oil fields.

Dumb.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:21 PM
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So instead of killing anti aircraft installation techs,they kill oilfield workers?
Fiendishly clever.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:21 PM
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6. Were saving the lives of those rebels until such time that we can properly
arm & train them to die in the coming civil war.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:21 PM
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7. Giant fires and the destruction of the Libyan economy sounds like a fabulous idea.
What's a little environmental nightmare among friends?

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:22 PM
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8. It would cause massive inflation within Libya for years.
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 05:23 PM by LoZoccolo
These oil-producing countries enjoy much lower prices than we do; to make them pay what the rest of the world does for oil would be severely disruptive. We have seen this with the three-to-fourfold inflation of gas prices here; the percentage increase would be much higher there. I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being a ten-to-twentyfold increase.
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:24 PM
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9. Without the oil to sell, how will they get back on their feet once this war is over?
Oil is the only thing the Arabs have that the world needs. Without it, the Libyans would be helpless to recover from Gaddhafi's rule and the subsequent war. Guess who would pay, then.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:25 PM
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10. The hate for the Libyan people on this forum is extraoridinary.
:puke:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:30 PM
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16. When you are an ideologue, the only thing that matters is fitting events into your own little box
no matter how. Just cram it all in there.

That's what this is about.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:06 PM
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20. I cannot believe people are seriously suggesting we attack civilian installations.
It is mind boggling.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:10 PM
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21. My post was facetious. You couldn't tell?
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 07:12 PM by Cali_Democrat
I wasn't being serious.

Obviously I question the real motives behind the assault on Libya.

I think we need to end the war on Libya and stop all attacks.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:13 PM
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22. It's hard to tell around here.
Your nick looked familiar and maybe I mistook you for someone else. :hi:
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:19 PM
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25. If it were Israel bombing, they'd all be loving it.
Flame away.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:26 PM
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11. Because the UN resolution does not call for destroying the
Libyan economy and infrastructure.

You might as well argue that we should take out the Libyan water sources, their electric grid, and all communications infrastructure. And hell, why not take out the bridges and roads while we are at it.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:27 PM
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12. Do you really need to ask that? nt
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:28 PM
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14. ...or dams, or power plants, wastewater treatment systems, hospitals, etc
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 05:31 PM by bhikkhu
Of course we could bomb all of those things, as we did in Afghanistan and Iraq, but that we aren't even considering it indicates something.

Its not 2001 anymore, and the guys in charge actually give a sh*t about people's lives.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:31 PM
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17. So, in order to prove it isnt a war for oil, we have to do something unnecessary and stupid?
Great logic there.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:40 PM
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18. Forget it, Jake...
...it's Chinatown DU.
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 06:26 PM
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19. Big Oil's $50 billion bet on Libya at stake
FORTUNE -- The instability in the Arab world claimed its first oil-rich victim over the weekend with the uprising in Libya. That's bad news for the bevy of international oil firms that have set up shop in the cloistered North African nation over the years, most notably Eni, the Italian oil giant. Libya has become a hot bed of energy investment since the lifting of trade sanctions seven years ago. Major oil companies from BP to ExxonMobil could now stand to lose millions, and in some cases, billions of dollars in investments and expected future revenue if the current regime falls.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/23/news/international/liby...
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:30 PM
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27. BP's investment alone is over $71 Billion
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 08:32 PM by Catherina
And they didn't like it when Gaddafi started saying in Nov 2010 that foreign companies needed Libyan business partners and that the 2007 contracts were just pieces of paper he wasn't going to honor and instead sell the oil to a non-Western market. No sir, that didn't go over too well.

You'll notice Britain banged the war drums the loudest. Then Sarkozy snuck in and made a deal with whom he hopes will be the new overseers of Libya's oil.
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:28 PM
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23. Remarkably stupid idea.
Appart from the political, ecological and economical fallout from that the military impact would be very limited since the military stocks as well as stocks otherwhere would still be available to Gaddafi. Bombing the oil industry enough to stop all production would really deprive Libya of any kind of economic future for the next decade, and it would do little to stop Gaddafi, unless the war drags out for months.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:12 PM
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24. Because Gaddafi's international assets have already been frozen
and he doesn't personally work on the oil rigs?
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:22 PM
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26. Is this a 3-D chess move I hear so much about?
:wishedDUhadafacepalmsmiley:
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