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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:22 AM
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The GOP Midwest Implosion Accelerates (Polls are starting to show "MASSIVE" leads for dems)
This was an interesting article in the New Republic. Here are two pieces of the story but the whole article is worth a read!

"Gray Davis's pollster thinks Wisconsin Democrats will not only flip the state Senate, they'll recall Scott Walker when he's eligible for it next year."

"And Sherrod Brown, the liberal-populist Democratic Ohio Senator until recently considered very vulnerable is now enjoying massive leads."

Good news for us, peeps! Enjoy the article!

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/85338/the-gop-mi...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:26 AM
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1. The GOPers reap their rewards...Seeds of Greed gets TRUMPED by TRUTH
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:28 AM
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3. Can you say that without using the word "Trump"?
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:26 AM
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2. About fucking time.
Apparently we now know how bad it has to get for people to wake up.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:31 AM
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4. kr.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:40 AM
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5. And the GOP Congress polls are dropping like cement shoes

Public already losing patience with new Congress

SNIP

After the election, 35 percent said Republicans had a better approach to the deficit, expected to reach a record $1.65 trillion this year. This month, that number has plunged to 21 percent.

Read more: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/03/20/110751/poll-publi...


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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:03 AM
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7. I hadn't seen that...thanks for sharing!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:58 AM
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6. Now if we can just prevent Timothy Geithner and Wall Street from ruining this.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:34 AM
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16. Well, they'll sure try....
:)
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:01 AM
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22. if possible
but I don't know if they can help themselves!
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:06 AM
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8. I still think they were elected to provide jobs...
And they have failed completely.

The electorate is not likely to be kind.

I was in Nevada for 2 weeks helping my mother. I talked to a lot of older and younger Conservatives there. They are really pissed at Republicans.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:13 AM
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10. music to my ears!!
How can they not be? Every stupid article I read I put on facebook now. At least half my friends on there are VERY conservative peeps from where I grew up and even they are starting to be sort of...embarrassed by the extremes.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:18 AM
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11. The offical unemployment numbers are 15% there...
I didn't see a strip mall where at least half the store fronts weren't empty. There were so many people trying to seel their blood or plasma that it formed long lines.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:47 AM
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18. I've noticed on my drive to work...many strip malls now half empty.
All these corporate tax cuts seem to be coming at the expense of small business.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:34 AM
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23. Small bussiness are even more sensative to a lack of customers...
Big Corporations can weather an economic down turn much longer. In Vegas, where the Unemployment is very high and locals are not spending, the go quick.

I also noticed that the number of people along the strip is way down over what it was in 2005 and 2006.

The Sahara is going out of bussiness as of May 16.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:14 PM
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38. Are they pissed at Republicans or the tea party?
Yes I do realize the 2 are pretty much the same thing, but the tea party fielded candidates who made promises of cutting spending and creating jobs. Something they have shown no interest in doing now that they are elected.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:08 AM
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9. Not To Pat Myself On The Back, But I Predicted This A Year Ago
I even made several posts on this board saying that the Republicans' "resurgence" would be the shortest-lived resurgence in history. They proved exactly what I said back then: that they have no new ideas and will only revert to failed policies when given the reins of power. And best of all, when they're the majority, they've got nobody else to blame.

Get ready to give up your gavel, Boner. And when you do (and run off to weep in a corner), you'll have no one to blame but yourself.
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jacquelope Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:14 AM
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13. Same here.
On other forums I've told Democrats not to cry at all about Nov 2010 as the blowout was looming. I also said this back in 2004 when the Dems REALLY got squashed.

Nice to see someone else out there sees the writing on the wall. :D
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:42 AM
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24. i thought the repubs would be less.... stupid about their takeover
so, i'm a little shocked it has happened so quickly...but, i wonder if they are looking at the big picture...just one or two states going anti-union every decade would still be a good slow victory.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:38 PM
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26. But It's Backfiring Horribly
The States they've chosen to "go anti-union" in are all pushing back hard.

And what genius decided it would be good to alienate the police and firefighters unions? Those are two typically very loyal Republican voting constituencies. Just goes to prove how tone-deaf the Republican Party is right now. Union = bad, so let's go after ALL the unions. There's no such thing as a Republican-leaning union. Derp-dee-der-dee-doo.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:37 PM
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27. yeah, but some of those southern red states are being pretty quiet about it
florida, alabama, there's anti teacher stuff going down that is going to wreck their unions.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:39 PM
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34. I'm afraid it won't be quite that easy.
They'll still have mountains of corporate money to keep them jammed in the breach. The bubble will burst, but not before much more damage is done.
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divine_truine Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 02:02 AM
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12. anyone labeling themselves conservative or gop CANNOT BE TRUSTED!
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 02:04 AM by divine_truine
...at the local/ state/ or federal levels. Some dems need to go as well; in fact, any elected offical who can be identified as taking money from corporations (in exchange for their votes) need to be RECALLED immediately! The people of each state need to pay close attention especially if you live in a gop dominated state.

& btw gop, where are the f#@king jobs? it appears your campaign to shrink govt/ cut spending meant the exact opposite all this time! Miserable trolls! Stick a fork in these gop Koch-whores...they're done! Walker, kasich, Daniels, christie et al have managed to screw part of their base who are UNION MEMBERS!

Crash & Burn gop
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 04:34 PM
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28. Good question: where are the jobs? That was the big thing...jobs
and everything Snotty Walker has done here in WI has KILLED jobs. Not one thing he has done or proposed will create jobs. Not even low-paying ones which I am sure is the goal of big business.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 07:36 PM
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33. bizarro world.... they do opposite of what they campaigned on. jobs = layoffs
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:16 AM
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14. Huh. So when Democratic politicians fight people are willing to get behind them?
Well isn't that interesting. I thought they were supposed to be keeping their powder dry and reaching across the aisle and compromising.

Looks like you just have to give people a reason to fight for you and they'll do it.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:26 AM
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15. Who'da thunk it???
:rofl:
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:52 AM
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21. +100
Imagine that ?!?!?!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:44 AM
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17. Americans are waking up to the Billionaire Republicon SuckerPuppetry
And remembering how massively Republicons failed with the economy, the environment, the phony wars, and their shocking -- shocking I tell you -- Family Values sexual hijinks.
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:49 PM
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39. Kudos to those who exposed the Koch machine
as the hidden engine in the Tea Party they hijacked...
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:48 AM
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19. Charlie Cook doesn't seem to agree
He says the Rethugs are going to keep the House and take the Senate in 2012
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:50 AM
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20. There's one long term trend that BOTH parties are...........
overlooking, IMO. And they're overlooking it because, like some/most generals, THEY'RE FIGHTING THE LAST WAR.

THAT'S why the public is doing a yo-yo between the two parties every election cycle. The electorate knows what they want, even if they can't articulate it. THEY WANT SOMEBODY THAT'S UNEQUIVOCALLY ON THEIR SIDE! Not just in words, but in action. Until one party or another, gives them this UNEQUIVOCAL support in ACTION, they will continue to vacillate.

The public doesn't care anymore if it's supply side economics or socialism or something in between that gives them a better life, they just want that better life. Now the ideologues on the right (just say the Republican Party, whether Teabag or Regular) won't give them that better life because they're tied to 30 years of supply side AND EVEN THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT WON'T WORK. So it's up to the Dems to provide that REAL alternative. IF the Dems DO NOT provide that REAL alternative, the public will vote for more and more drastic versions of supply side, even if they don't think that it'll work. And those more drastic measures, of course, will make their lives even MORE miserable.

At some point, this situation will lead to a hot revolution/civil war IF THE DEMS DON'T STEP UP AND PROVIDE A REAL ALTERNATIVE! Stop fighting the Reagan tsunami Dems. That's over and has BEEN over for 6/7 years. You don't have to become Republican Lite just to survive, you can actually step up and DO something. If you don't, someone else will.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:41 PM
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30. Wish I could rec your post!
I agree, we need a real man or woman OF THE PEOPLE to step into the fray and LEAD.

Poll after poll shows that on many issues we are not that far apart as a nation, with the exception of the 'haves' and the 'have-nots'. Finally a lot of the 'have-nots' are waking up to the fact that their plight is miserable and they are being USED. REALLY USED.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:50 AM
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25. Don't count your chickens until they come home to roost...
"It ain't over 'til it's over" - Yogi Berra

The news is good, but don't enjoy it until the deed is done and the Republican's tea-marinated goose is cooked.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:17 PM
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29. Things change every month or so sometimes
The dems had huge leads on 538 in the start of 2009. Statistics showed the dems would likely pick up something like 5+ extra senate seats in 2010 giving them 64 or more in the federal senate.

But disillusionment among the base, disappointment among independents and anger among conservatives all tipped the scale.

Right now the opposite is happening, I hope. Liberals are feeling energy, independents are getting turned off the GOP and conservatives hopefully will become fat and happy.

But there is no telling what will happen between now and 2012.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 06:00 PM
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31. Oh yeah, it's a LIFETIME politically until 2012.........
HOwever if we can keep up the support of the working class and if the Rs keep on overreaching and SHOWING who's side they're really on, we could get the electoral momentum back. But as I said in a post above, it's not going to mean shit if the Dems don't give the electorate a REAL alternative.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:30 PM
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45. That is one of their big problems
I was reading a book called 'why zebras don't get ulcers' and it talked about how a sense of control could reduce stress. But the author said it was a double edged sword, because people who have control and lose it have more stress and problems than people who never had control at all. aka, it is better to never have something than have it and lose it, you will end up worse if you lose it.

Obama and the dems ran as progressives then governed as new england republicans. They offered to fight for the working class, then triangulated. The end result is more disillusionment and apathy than would've happened if they had just been honest and said 'we are running the same platform republicans in the early 90s ran'.

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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 06:11 PM
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32. k&r
I've really enjoyed your posts since you've joined DU - thanks!
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 09:16 PM
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35. Time for Dems nationwide to run on this platform...
The 2012 Democratic Platform


We will pass new tax laws that spread the tax burden fairly across the economic spectrum, with those benefiting most from our society contributing commensurately.

We will pass law to protect the right of workers to organize and have a voice in the operation of US businesses. This will include raising the minimum wage to $20.00 per hour to ensure a reasonable standard of living for all working families and to stimulate our sluggish economy.

We will pass law to provide Medicare for All so no American is denied care or has to suffer financial hardship because of health problems, and no American businesses are saddled with health costs that keep them from competing fairly with foreign competitors. This plan will include a safety net to guarantee every citizen is provided the food and shelter necessary to survive difficult challenges in their lives.



We will withdraw of all US military and contracted personnel from Iraq and Afghanistan. Instead of the hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives being wasted on these wars, we will instead provide aid to these countries, and to other depressed areas where atrocious conditions breed terrorists.

We will order the Department of Justice to investigate those who led us into these wars to determine if war crime charges are warranted. If so, they will be prosecuted with vigor and any ill-gained profits shall be returned to the people.

We will order the Commerce Department to present a holostic plan for maintaining and advancing the infrastructure of our great country.

We will order the Secretary of Education to present new plans to guarantee all Americans have access to our public schools, from pre-kindergarten through advanced degrees.

We will order Homeland Security to present a new plan for securing our borders from those who would do us harm while allowing appropriate travel and visitation to our many friends around the world. This plan is to include a path to citizenship for those who serve in the US military, or who came here as children and are now productive members of our society.

We will order the Department of Energy to begin another Manhattan Project to enable us to cease our dependence on fossil fuels. At the same time, I am announcing the nationalization of all US oil and gas reserves, as well as other reserves owned by the citizens of the US that are currently being extracted from our soil for private profit without regard for our environment.

We will order the Department of Justice to begin immediately to root out crimes of corruption within our government. In concert with this, I want Congress to pass laws to ensure elected officials are serving for the benefit of the American people as a whole, not to gain wealth or power for themselves or their friends.


And finally, we are asking you, the People, to help with the most critical problem facing our Democracy today. Were asking you, the People, to pass a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting political spending by corporations or any other entity or individual not qualifying as a person with citizenship in this great country.


These and other policies we will put in place will cause a sea-change in how our country serves the citizens - We the People - rather than a tiny handful of super-wealthy who would subvert our democracy and plunder our wealth while denying even the most basic services for our citizens. Thank you for your support and thank you for standing up for the rights of all citizens.


Vote Democrat - 2012


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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:13 PM
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36. I can say I honestly love my Senator Sherrod Brown! I will be working for him next year to get him
back in office! He is one of the BEST!
:loveya:
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 11:05 AM
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40. the poll numbers look really good fro brown!
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 01:45 PM
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41. Thanks good to hear! Let's hope for the best down the road! n/t
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:45 PM
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42. i'm hoping to see some good poll numbers showing some results in other states
Some good political news would be welcomed!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 10:13 PM
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37. Well that's today - tomorrow it could be a whole new game
so we need to find a way to keep this momentum going
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 03:49 PM
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43. Conservatives always make the same mistake
They never plan for a backlash. Greeted as liberators being the prime example but we are living through another one right now.


"This is happening so fast it's hard to believe. Are Republican governors creating that big of a backlash?"



Yes, yes they are.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 04:25 PM
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44. They are so sure they are right.... but I'm hoping you are instead! nt
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