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IScreamSundays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:46 PM
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Tweet: Khamis Gaddafi killed today in airstrikes
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:50 PM
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1. I certainly hope it is true.
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 08:51 PM by roamer65
He ran the nastiest part of daddy's military. There are MANY civilians who died at his hands.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:52 PM
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2. wow his wiki page changed to deceased
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:40 PM
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41. it's changed back
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 05:41 PM by spanone
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:52 PM
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3. There was a report a few days ago of explosions at the Gaddafi compound
first reported as a kamikaze Libyan pilot, late changed to an individual suicide bomber. Reports indicated heavy guard around local burn unit/reconstruction hospital, with rumors of Gaddafi family injuries.

I'm wondering if this is related to that rather than airstrikes?
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:10 PM
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17. nevermind.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:52 PM
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4. Here's another report
BREAKING: Almanara Media confirms from trusted sources that Khamis Al Gaddafi is dead

02:13 Almanara Media is confirming from trusted sources that Khamis Al Gaddafi has passed away on Sunday due to severe burn injuries he sustained a few days ago. The burns were caused when a fighter jet pilot performed a martyr mission and crashed his fighter jet into Gaddafis compound Baab Al Aziziyah. IMPORTANT: We are only citing Almanara Media for this news. We have not confirmed it via any other source.



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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:52 PM
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5. Wikipedia claims he died from burns received the jet that crashed into the compound a few days ago.
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 08:59 PM
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6. What was his claim to infamy?
I certainly don't trust the US media and I don't trust the government to give the straight scoop on their "enemies du jour" .

So besides being Gaddafi's son what exactly did he do to warrant being roasted? Was he a torturer, did he incriminate and incarcerate without trials, did he wage war and kill innocents? Was he a war criminal?
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:02 PM
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9. He was the head of a special ops brigade
Hope the news is true.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:05 PM
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11. Yes. "Khamis Gaddafi Recruits Mercenaries To Shoot Protestors"
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 09:05 PM by jefferson_dem
Does that help clear thing up? http://www.carbonated.tv/news/khamis-gaddafi-recruits-m...

I feel sorry for anyone who hopes to hold this scumbag up as some kind of martyr.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:05 PM
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12. Including the current assualt on his own people, his father
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:15 PM
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20. Forgive my cynicsm
But the war in Iraq has made me a skeptic forever. Powerful leaders all have a corrupt and evil streak, but not always as bad as the propaganda machines of their stated enemies portray it.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:02 PM
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30. you can be cynical or you can be skeptical, but you can't be both at the same time
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:16 PM
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22. Gene carrier.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:40 PM
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42. He was in the way of Western interests
Get over it - it's just a brown son of a dictator - :sarcasm:

Reagan killed one of Gaddafi's infant daughters back in 1986 - and there are people on DU who support that too.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:00 PM
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7. I find it hard to be happy about any of this.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:02 PM
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8. Casualty of war...
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 09:02 PM by jefferson_dem
My heart does not weep for him -- leader of his own band of murdering thugs - "Khamis Brigade". Wonder if it was a Benghazi strike. "The Harder They Come..."
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:02 PM
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10. Letter to Khamis Muammar al Gaddafi
Dear Khamis,

I hope this letter reaches you well, reaches you not too late and, above all, I hope it comes across with the sincerity I have in my heart.

I wish I was sending this letter in better circumstances and Libya was not going through the unrest that it is going through now. At the same time, maybe this is when a letter like this is the most needed.

It's difficult not to be influenced by the news, by the images and by the violence. It is difficult not to take sides, not to judge but...

God judges, History judges, your people judges, you judge... I don't judge.

It is in the hour of darkness that we need our friends the most and, I hope, I can be of a voice that makes a change in this hour of darkness that Libya is going through.

Had the troubles in Libya not happened I would have been proud to say that once we sat in the same class and studied the same books, listened to the same ideas and dreamt of changing the world. I'm writing here because I know you can and I know you will do the right thing and, as you do, I can repeat that I am still proud to have known you!

What I have seen so far on the news are only violent actions and brutal reactions. Is that all that is on the table? One party eliminating the other instead of achieving together?

What do your people want? Who in Libya has stopped and asked this question? Who has the trust of the people to ask this question and is that person trusted enough to see the will of the people realized?

Who is the one in Libya that will stand and say: I refuse to accept that violence is the way and retaliation is the answer!
Who is the one in Libya that will stand and say: I am going to be the change?

Are the people asking for more than freedom, equality, pride and self respect? Is this impossible to achieve in ways other than one side eliminating the other and fighting to the last bullet?

The Libyan people are drunk... yes! But they are drunk on freedom and equality. The Libyan people just witnessed two revolutions where the authorities ran over people with tanks and yet, at the end, the will of the people prevailed. The Libyan people are empowered by the belief that freedom and equality can be achieved if they face the government long enough. They expect violence and so far, from the speeches that I have heard, this is what the Libyan regime has delivered. Not only are you giving the revolution what they expect, you are fueling their rage and destroying future chances for peaceful agreements.
What is more important to you?

We are all dying and what is left is our legacy. What do you want your legacy to be? Do you want it to be marked with destruction and death or do you want it to be marked by Greatness... greatness comes from building not destroying, greatness comes from giving life not taking it.

You are the one: no one knows Libya better than a Libyan, no one knows Libya better than you. And no one has the resources that you have. No one is in a better position to to make a difference. No one in these troubled times can achieve greatness.

At IE we are part of an elite and we pride ourselves with the genius to turn obstacles into opportunities, and crisis to resolutions. Where every body else fails we manage to stand for what is right; for what is a leader other than a student, as you are, that can look at his people in the darkest hour and lead them into the light? I am at your disposal to help you achieve your greatness.

May God be with you and guide you in this time

Antonios

http://antonioshr.blogspot.com/2011/02/letter-to-khamis...
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:05 PM
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13. Was this an assassination? By UN forces?
Is that necessary for a no fly zone?
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:07 PM
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14. No. A Libyan fighter pilot
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 09:11 PM by tabatha
on returning from a sortie instead of returning home, crashed his jet into Gaddafi's compound in a suicide mission.

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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:08 PM
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15. The UN mandate is not just only about implementing a no fly zone
It is also about protecting civilians against Ghaddafi attacks. Be it from the air or land.

Plus according to sources he was killed by one of their own in a suicide mission.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:15 PM
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21. A Libyan pilot crashed a plane into Gaddafi's compound BEFORE the no-fly zone mission started. n/t
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:20 PM
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24. !
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 09:31 PM by Vehl
He must have been sickened beyond compare at the stuff Gadaffi's people have been making him do...shooting at civilians and protesters.

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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:27 PM
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26. Here's some links regarding kamikaze pilot Muhammad Mokhtar Osman
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 09:30 PM by Tx4obama
Photo: http://feb17.info/images/photo-of-muhammad-mukhtar-osma... /

On march 15th 2011, a brave pilot, Muhammad Mokhtar Osman, pictured above, mounted a valiant effort to end the current bloodbath taking place in the North African State. Reports are unclear whether he was a pilot for the National Council or a Ghaddafi pilot who defected to the opposition and decided to launch a solo mission on Ghaddafi's secure compound of Baab Al Aziziyah. Some reports indicate he was on a Ghaddafi mission to bombard civilians but rather than bombing his own people he preferred turning his MIG 25 around and launched his own attack on the dictator's secure compound. Other reports indicate he took off as part of a 2 plane team with the mission of bombing strategic points in Al Guradibya base in Sirte. Their orders were to return immedietly after completing the mission. One pilot followed orders while the other flew to Tripoli where he emptied what he had left of ammunition on Baab Al Aziziyah and then crashed his plane into it. The pilot is considered a hero as well as a martyr by many in Libya.

It is thought that during this brave solo mission, two of Ghaddafi's sons, thought to be Khamis and Sa'adi were badly burnt and injured during the attack. It is further thought that following being rushed to the hospital, Khamis succumed to his injuries. These reports could not be confirmed as Ghaddafi ordered a complete media blackout and a total blockade of the hospital with noone let in or out.

Libya commends this brave pilot's efforts to save his fellow countrymen. Finally, it is unclear whether Muhammad Mokhtar Osman sacrificed his life for his country's benefit or whether he managed to eject in time prior to impact. If the latter is the case, one would hope he managed to get away from the compound.

God speed to all the National Council pilots in their efforts against a vastly superior force.

Article: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-573731?ref=feeds%2Flate...

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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:33 PM
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28. wow
Reminds me of the RAF pilot who crashed his aircraft into a German bomber to prevent bombing.

I hope this pilot ejected to safety.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:55 PM
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29. How disappointing for DU.
But I'm sure the dictator-in-waiting died a hero.
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:05 PM
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31. No. That didn't happen.
Pure Twitter rumor. There was never any eyewitness account by anyone of a plane crashing into the compound.

It's not clear if the second report, about somebody setting off bombs in the compound, happened or not.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:11 PM
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33. I was wondering why this kept getting repeated.
I never got a verification on the marytr story though it sounds cool.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:34 PM
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34. But the plane DID crash into the compound.
http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /

And one of the foreign TV live streams mentioned the fire after the plane crashed a few days ago, I can't remember which one it was though.



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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:19 PM
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23. A Libyan jet fighter crashed into the compound BEFORE the no-fly mission started. n/t
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:09 PM
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16. Info below from Wikipedia regarding his 'possible' death
On March 20, 2011, it was reported by Al Manara Media, that Khamis al-Gaddafi, the leader of the Khamis Brigade and son of Muammar al-Gaddafi, had died from his injuries sustained when Muhammad Mokhtar Osman allegedly crashed his plane into Bab al-Azizia. However, this had not been confirmed by any other independent media. The crashing of the plane itself had also not been previously reported or confirmed by any other independent media except Al Manara
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khamis_Gaddafi


And from Twitter

For a view of the news about the killing of Khamis Gaddafi (killed 2 days ago) read the timeline of @ShababLibya
http://twitter.com/ShababLibya


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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:11 PM
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18. martyr pilot
Edited on Sun Mar-20-11 09:11 PM by tabatha
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:13 PM
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19. Info regarding FOUR of Gaddafi's sons......
Libya: Who's who in Gaddafi's inner circle

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi: Born in 1972, the best known of Col Gaddafi's sons as the leader of the modernising wing in the family. Originally trained as an engineer, he wrote his PhD thesis at London School of Economics on the role of civil society in democratisation.

Saadi Gaddafi: Born in 1973, once thought closest in outlook to Saif al-Islam. He was previously best-known as a professional footballer in Malta and Italy, but he re-emerged as head of the Libyan special forces, which are also playing a leading role in repressing the uprising.

Mutassim Gaddafi: Born in 1977, Mutassim is Col Gaddafi's fourth son but possibly the most powerful. A former army officer, he is now his father's National Security Adviser.

Khamis Gaddafi: Age unknown. Trained in Russia, he is trusted by his father enough to be put in command of an elite force, the Khamis Brigade, which has been in the forefront of putting down the most resilient areas of opposition.

Article and PHOTOS here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindi...

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:24 PM
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25. Karma....lets hope for some more.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:36 PM
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39. +rec
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 09:33 PM
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27. I wonder if the other son Sa'adi is in the hospital too ???
On march 15th 2011, a brave pilot, Muhammad Mokhtar Osman, pictured above, mounted a valiant effort to end the current bloodbath taking place in the North African State. Reports are unclear whether he was a pilot for the National Council or a Ghaddafi pilot who defected to the opposition and decided to launch a solo mission on Ghaddafi's secure compound of Baab Al Aziziyah. Some reports indicate he was on a Ghaddafi mission to bombard civilians but rather than bombing his own people he preferred turning his MIG 25 around and launched his own attack on the dictator's secure compound. Other reports indicate he took off as part of a 2 plane team with the mission of bombing strategic points in Al Guradibya base in Sirte. Their orders were to return immedietly after completing the mission. One pilot followed orders while the other flew to Tripoli where he emptied what he had left of ammunition on Baab Al Aziziyah and then crashed his plane into it. The pilot is considered a hero as well as a martyr by many in Libya.

It is thought that during this brave solo mission, two of Ghaddafi's sons, thought to be Khamis and Sa'adi were badly burnt and injured during the attack. It is further thought that following being rushed to the hospital, Khamis succumed to his injuries. These reports could not be confirmed as Ghaddafi ordered a complete media blackout and a total blockade of the hospital with noone let in or out.

SNIP

Article: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-573731?ref=feeds%2Flate...

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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:11 PM
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32. The world just became a better place.
Good riddance to that subhuman fuck!
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ArnoldLayne Donating Member (871 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 10:51 PM
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35. His Daddy is next I hope
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:25 PM
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36. Killed by a kamikaze pilot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khamis_al-Gaddafi

On March 20, 2011, it was reported by Al Manara Media, that Khamis al-Gaddafi, the leader of the Khamis Brigade and son of Muammar al-Gaddafi, had died from his injuries sustained when Muhammad Mokhtar Osman allegedly crashed his plane into Bab al-Azizia. However, this had not been confirmed by any other independent media. The crashing of the plane itself had also not been previously reported or confirmed by any other independent media except Al Manara.<8>

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:27 PM
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37. Hopefully daddy is next
All I can say.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:34 PM
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38. From ABC news ....
SNIP

People close to Libya's embattled leader Moammar Gadhafi are reaching out to allies around the world exploring their "options," Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told ABC News' Diane Sawyer today, and the U.S. government has gotten unconfirmed reports that at least one of Gadhafi's sons has been killed.

SNIP

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-diane-sa...

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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:37 PM
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40. Oh well. The Prince of Darkness is up three games to none in their chess match. nt
Edited on Tue Mar-22-11 05:37 PM by bluestate10
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:13 PM
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43. And his father is in Venezuela. And 10,000 loyalists defected.
And rebels seized the Sirte airbase.
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joe_sixpack Donating Member (655 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:21 PM
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44. Touchdown!!!
DU hasn't had this much reason to cheer since Saddam's sons bought it 8 years ago.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 06:29 PM
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45. I clicked on a google image of him and got a red alert pop-up
I guess one of my anti-malicious software programs kicked in.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 10:25 PM
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46. nice kill glad to see it
woot woot
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