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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:55 PM
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Important, pls read this: Martial Law in Michigan and Republicans’ End Game
from PoliticsUSA

While we were venting our outrage at shenanigans in Wisconsin politics, in fact while Republicans were planning last night’s attempted coup, the Michigan state legislature quietly passed a bill giving the Governor of Michigan martial control over the state. Except instead of using actual military, the Governor is more likely to use private security. But make no mistake–rights would be suspended.

Here’s how it works:

The governor, on his own initiative, can declare an economic emergency in any town and appoint an administrator. The administrator can be any person, including a corporate person.

The administrator has the power to do anything in the name of economic stability, including void contracts, void collective bargaining agreements, dissolve the town council, dissolve the school board, fire anyone including elected officials, hire private security, unincorporate the town, and sell off public property.

<snip>

http://www.politicususa.com/en/martial-law-michigan


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Please read the whole article, it's not long. This is so much more dangerous than what's been reported so far.

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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:58 PM
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1. Is it fascism yet? Can we call it that yet?
Please tell us what to do oh keepers of the sacred "No they're not Nazis, how dare you!?" segment. Do we have to have the stench of death camps before we can call them Nazis?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:03 PM
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6. By my interpretation, it renders the governor a de facto dictator.
It sure as hell ain't democracy.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:35 PM
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33. A few years ago before the 2008 election, Bill Moyers interviewed
Bruce Fein and John Nichols. They warned that evening that if the unitary executive wasn't corraled before the election no successor would ever relinguish what bush had acheived as to his power as president. Well, nothing was done and now we have the governors, particularly this one in MI, who are exceeding the powers of their offices. That's what I believe, of course imho.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 02:59 PM
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2. Excuse me for a moment...
:argh:
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:01 PM
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3. This will be taken to court and tossed out
but thats not the problem. The problem is that they would even have to balls to pass something like that. Its unthinkable and goes against everything EVERYTHING this country stood for.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:24 PM
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22. Bet your small change first.
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Gaedel Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:31 AM
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38. I am not a lawyer and courts can be pretty fickle
I would guess that the legal basis for the legislation is that counties, cities, townships, and villages are chartered by the state and are thus instrumentalities of the state.

I don't think they can "dissolve" elected councils and boards, but they can supercede their powers and render them impotent under the powers granted by the act.



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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:15 AM
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46. Worse
Unless you throw it out quickly there might come a situation when the pressure of the situation may go against an easy judgment. They can either then affirm(under whatever useless caveats they wish to add) or be ignored- as time passes and the damage and precedent continues to be done. Since there are never any consequences for most the precedents and damages those will endure. The Justices were in effect close to closing Gitmo but years of bending to the rights of "emergency" and unitary executive powers left them little when the executive weaves through the weak belated fence.

Tell me someone is challenging it immediately.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:11 AM
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44. Watch them throw out the judges
In Detroit, an appointed manager has been smacked down by the judiciary, who ruled in favor of the Detroit Public School Board. We'll see what happens next. As a Detroiter myself, this is scary shit. May we live in interesting times, indeed.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:02 PM
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4. And WHERE IN THE HELL is the U.S. Justice Department on this?
Kennedy sent in the troops when Alabama Gov. George Wallace decided he would ignore the constitution.

Obama ain't no Kennedy.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:05 PM
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8. Indeed
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:27 AM
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40. Yup nt
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:16 AM
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47. Under the Bush model
likely AWOL.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:03 PM
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5. I have been following this
and it is some scary stuff. They basically can void any election they don't like and give the state over to corporate control. Yet there are still many here on DU that will argue with me that this isn't the implementation of fascism that is happening in America. Come on people, wake up!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x599151
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:05 PM
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7. Well let's see.
"Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology. Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy."

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck....
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:09 PM
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9. Precisely
However, it seems there are some people who have to get hit upside the head with a baseball bat multiple times before they start to "get it:.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:16 PM
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11. Yeah. It ain't fascism unless there's actively working .........
death camps. THAT'S A LITTLE TOO FUCKING LATE IF YOU ASK ME!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:18 PM
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13. Just a wee bit, yeah.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:26 PM
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16. That's a little too late for me as well
But since you bring it up that was one of the things I always wondered about over the years as I studied the rise of fascism in Nazi Germany. At what point was it too late to begin an active resistance to Hitler or at what point was it too late to get out of the country.

There doesn't seem to be a clear demarcation point as to when that was.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:27 PM
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17. That's a little too late for me as well
But since you bring it up that was one of the things I always wondered about over the years as I studied the rise of fascism in Nazi Germany. At what point was it too late to begin an active resistance to Hitler or at what point was it too late to get out of the country.

There doesn't seem to be a clear demarcation point as to when that was.
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:01 PM
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19. Here's another swing of the bat. K&R. nt
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:23 PM
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15. Yes, indeed, it's government by quacks.
The GOP is the foulest of the fowl.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:14 PM
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21. I think I'm in love.
My parents raised me to appreciate a good groan once I was grown.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:28 PM
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18. But this duck does not have this


Therefore it is NOT a duck.

Yes, I have been told this.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:12 PM
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10. Definitely read the entire link. It's even worse.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:24 PM
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28. Like raising property taxes on the poor, they can not afford them, and
"poof" the state owns that property.

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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:18 PM
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12. yikes
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 03:21 PM
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14. This is horrifying
Sure, it will likely get thrown out in court, but in the mean time, how much havoc could be wreaked upon people's lives?

This is NOT democracy OR a Constitutional Republic - this is a Banana Republic move.
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:07 PM
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20. What is happening in the US is apparent to all who observe with an open mind.
Similar actions taken simultaneously by Republican state governments around the country point to nothing less than a conspiracy.

What we are witnessing is the beginning of a coup d'etat in the United States.

With a few variations, their actions are a reprise of Germany in 1933.

The attack on labor is designed to eliminate the Democratic Party as a force in American politics so as to turn America into a one-party state led by a right wing cabal consisting of a wealthy corporate elite loosely involved with a fundamentalist theocratic oligarchy.

What the right wing coup leaders envision is a fascist state with the draconian powers of the Inquisition.

It is ironic that the right wing in this country is forever demonizing Muslims by claiming that they all want to impose Sharia law on America at the same time that the right wing is stripping Americans of their constitutional rights and implementing measures designed to destroy the middle class.

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:29 AM
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41. Right on! nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 04:35 PM
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23. I need a better link than this.
It's pretty hard to believe without looking at the source material.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:03 PM
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24. Okay - found one.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:05 PM
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25. Absolutely need federal intervention
Michigan is NOT its own little fiefdom.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:07 PM
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26. I just contacted a friend in Michigan
This is crazy.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:09 PM
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27. Holy Crap! The fucking Nazis are taking over. This is bad, real bad.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 05:47 PM
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29. It happened with almost no notice, too.
I found out about the vote the morning it happened and e-mailed my state senator (R). Then it passed and got done before anyone knew what the hell happened.

It's worse than you think, and something tells me that it won't get thrown out right away. This is more than bad.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:15 PM
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30. Kick
for those who haven't seen this yet.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:29 PM
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32. Like I said a terrorists organization.
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 11:20 PM
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31. recommend
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 12:00 AM
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34. K&R
My God, What's happening in America?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:30 AM
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42. Shock and awe..........nt
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:46 AM
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35. Suspect the ink is already dry on the environmental disaster projects already.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:56 AM
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36. Is OCP getting ready to open Delta City?
Sarcasm aside, it may not be long until the dystopia of Robocop becomes reality.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 06:11 AM
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37. If i were rich i would pay a future democratic governor and set up a town
with private security in which i would make everything public owned, give all residents an equal share of profits made, the private security would not bust people for growing or selling weed and would chase out any bankers or investers who came around.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:15 AM
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45. Oooo...
can I open up my Bud 'n Breakfast there? :)
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:28 AM
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48. sure, just like the guys at the rainbow farm tried
my father and i were looking to camp one labor day weekend and couldnt find anything, we stopped at a gas station to as and a cop inside saw the harley and saw the father and son with long hair and told us that there was a nice place to camp called the rainbow farm, he was a local cop and told us that the campground was run by and for hippies and that you could openly party but not to worry because he didnt see fit to go "investigate" it. the cop was really nice, much nicer than the swat team that later raided the rainbow farm.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 09:25 AM
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39. Obama won't allow this.
:sarcasm:
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 11:29 AM
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49. FDR would have sent in the army if they tried to actually do it.
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