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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:40 AM
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Poll question: Will you boycott the Huffington Post now that Ariana Huffington has exploited her workers?
Arianna Huffington dismissed the whole idea of a strike. "Go ahead, go on strike," she said. She laughed at "the idea of going on strike when no one really notices."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7826552/strike_called_against_the_huffington_pg2.html?cat=2
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:44 AM
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1. Kick
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:45 AM
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2. If we're going to support union members in Wisconsin, we should support the writers who were
exploited by Ariana Huffington
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:01 AM
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13. absolutely
:thumbsup:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:46 AM
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3. Other
I don't read the Huffington Post because I don't like the content; its fast and loose with facts and sensationalistic.
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Lebam in LA Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:46 AM
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4. I had been visiting less and less
over the months and quit completly when she sold out to AOL. Guess now that she is back making the big bucks she is turning back into a republican agian.
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IndyJones Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:51 AM
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5. No one exploited those writers.
They are adults who chose to write for HP to get the exposure. I'll continue to get my daily HP email update and if I see anything interesting, I'll click on the link to read. It's not like HP has ever been my "go to" source for independent thought or breaking news.
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BillyJack Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:58 AM
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7. vomituous n/t
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IndyJones Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 02:35 AM
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11. If you're bulemic, find help. How that has anything to do with HP is a mystery.
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:13 AM
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33. Do you contribute content to DU?
Then, guess what, you're a writer. So why aren't you demanding your cut from DU?
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BillyJack Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:21 PM
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56. My writing on DU isn't that good or insightful for one thing.
:-P
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:51 AM
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38. They became exploited when she made a profit off their work
It's as though an appeal had gone out for help fixing up a historical old building and many people spent their weekends renovating it -- only to have the building's owner turn around and sell it for an ample profit. The people might not have felt exploited at the time, when they thought they were doing something for their community, but down the road they were certainly taken advantage of.

It's the same way with HuffPo. The bloggers weren't just looking for a free platform and some exposure. They also felt they were working to create a significant progressive presence online. And not only has Ariana profited nicely off their unpaid labor, she also looks to have sold out the progressive nature of the site.

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:51 AM
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6. I've never seen, much less clicked on a single ad there thanks to Ad and Flash blockers on my Mac.
But I suppose I can find the T&A and celebrity sleaze that they provide elsewhere.

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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:06 AM
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19. Whoops
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 07:10 AM by chillspike
Replied to wrong poster.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:59 PM
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51. I never click on ads anywhere ever
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:59 AM
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8. i always thought HP sucked, but Arianna fooled a lot of people and made out pretty well
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 02:00 AM
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9. I never clicked on that site very much
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 02:01 AM by Cali_Democrat
Always slowed down my browser for some reason.

Meh
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 02:29 AM
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10. I have been since the sale because there was no mention...
of paying the writers.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 02:55 AM
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12. Other. I never clicked on the site much,
so "boycott" isn't really applicable. When I got there at all, it was usually because I wanted to read a specific piece by a specific author.
I remembered Ariana only too well from her overtly RW days. I never really believed that she had actually had a political epiphany, although I will admit that she talked a good game for awhile.
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Number_Six Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:17 AM
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14. Don't go there anymore
Place tends to stink of DINO's....Dems In Name Only. Prefer it here, yes.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:24 AM
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15. Huff already overloaded with crap and crap graphics
Don't need or want the sludge they are selling...
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:38 AM
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16. Maybe I'll just protest by spamming them with extra accounts, since they always get banned
In like a few seconds anyway. lol
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:41 AM
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17. Never bought into her bullshit to begin with. n/t
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:23 AM
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24. +1 Never been. nt
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:54 AM
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28. Stumbled upon it a few times, but never on purpose.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:52 PM
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48. Yep. Always knew she was just working a con.
Never trusted her, never liked her, never clicked on her website.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:53 AM
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18. never bought her, the site was bloated & always hung up my computer, so
i didn't go there.

she always struck me as a "society" type.

seeing her reaction to the strike, i think that was about it.
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:08 AM
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20. Hey, I'm a writer here at DU

We all are. We provide free content here. Can I get paid?

The point is DU provides us a platform to speak and share our views with many people.

If I want to keep something I have written to myself I post it on my own website not at DU.

That said, I don't really know the specific agreements HP had between some writers and themselves.


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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:47 AM
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26. repost (nt)
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 09:05 AM by chillspike
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:20 AM
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40. When Skinner gets $300 mil, then I'll go on strike.
Until then, he can keep the change. He and the others have earned it. Not so with Ariana.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:35 PM
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59. Face it...
... you have ZERO IDEA how much money DU makes for its owners. Probably not millions, but nonetheless, you have no idea.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:03 PM
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60. They deliver good value.
Plus, there's the brand loyalty, which is HUGH! That's what really counts.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:13 AM
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62. LOL..
.. well I don't begrudge the owners of DU their success, they earned it. But my point stands.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:44 AM
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21. I don't find much of any interest to read there anyway.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:52 AM
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22. HuffPo is weak. Endless woo nonsense. nt
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:06 AM
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23. I post on HuffPo because people read the site, whether we like it or not,
and I don't want some of the right wing bullshit to stand unchallenged.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:39 AM
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25. I bailed out on HuffPo long ago. nt
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 08:52 AM
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27. When they started having a lot of celebrity "news", I spent less time
at Huffington Post. So no real change of habit from me. However, if they have a good post or story there, I will use it as I do anywhere.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:03 AM
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29. I've always been a little leery of her, just couldn't put my finger on why. Well I
guess deep down, I know this leopard hadn't changed it's spots.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:04 AM
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30. The mutual promotion society that is Huffington Post has long
been as dull as any tavern filled with B listers telling tales of their glory.
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jp11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:04 AM
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31. No, they volunteered and want to get paid after the fact.
I didn't frequent HP it was/is too 'busy' with crap. The writers/artists volunteered to offer content and did so without expectation of pay AFAIK, unless they were promised something they don't 'deserve' benefits of the sale. Should they have gotten paid yes, but when people do things for free they can't then claim owed wages.

If I offer to shovel my neighbors driveway/walkway, mow their lawn, etc for free or unsolicited and they don't stop me/accept my work, I can't demand payment for services rendered whether they win the lottery or sell their house 'due to my upkeep' on it.

Volunteers don't strike they stop volunteering, and you can only 'exploit' a volunteer as much as they let you.


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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:08 AM
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32. Chiming in again
Come on people. Don't we liberals have bigger enemies than the Huffington Post? I think we should admit there is a gray area here. Plenty of website work by user created content, including DU, where the user doesn't get paid for their submissions. I dont know what kind of contracts Arianna had with some if her writers but I think we're being a little hard on her in this case.
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:24 AM
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34. So it's totally ok for her to make hundreds of millions on other peoples' work
And further for her to be a cheap-o and not reimburse any of the people who made her rich? I don't know what those guys are asking, but I bet she could pay them each tens of thousands without even a major dent in her wallet. Greed really makes people into dicks.

As for me, I'm not on DU or whatever to make money (partly because I'm still trying to figure out how ;)), I like the forum and exchange of opinion and news.
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:32 AM
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41. Okay, fine.
As a contributor here at DU I would like my check sent to my bank account by direct deposit. I will also expect my cut of the loot if the DU is someday sold.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:41 AM
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35. Definitely unsubscribing, especially after reading what's at the link
that sneering, anti-worker prick

Mark Whittington...This guy all but spits on their action.

I spit on him and Huffpo:puke:
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:43 AM
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36. I already boycott HP because the majority of what they produce is garbage.
It's either celebrity news or woo nonsense. HP is about as useful a news source as the Oprah show or TMZ.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:44 PM
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46. Agreed. It is fluff and stuff. I feel better about myself going there than TMZ, but only slightly.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 09:45 AM
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37. tabloid. i havent read her in years. i dont like all her garbage. nt
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:18 AM
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39. She needs to do a revenue-sharing agreement with content providers, or no more HuffPo.
No more excuses, Arianna. You have plenty of money, now.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:38 AM
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42. I haven't gone there since she sold it.
Edited on Sun Mar-06-11 11:39 AM by SalviaBlue
AOL? I don't think so.
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susanr516 Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 11:41 AM
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43. Other--I never liked the site
Seemed too much like tabloid journalism to me.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:29 PM
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44. Rarely thought it was worth the bother before.
Can't see how it would be any different now.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:43 PM
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45. Other --- I like to know what the other side does to fuel propaganda

After a read about the psychological effects students demonstrated after a group of psychologists put them in a prisoners and guards scenario, I thought we might all be a fishbowl just like that. Since then, I have tried to find different instances where the prisoner/guard paradigm might be repeated. One instance: I read the Turner Diaries and other aryan nations type of literature/propaganda pieces to see how you can change a person's sense of right and wrong to the point that a lone wolf is created. The second instant: the destruction of the liberal paradigm from the 1950s to today.

Arianna Huffington is a part of it. She convinced all these liberals that she was down with the cause. She exploited their labor and their efforts by giving them platitudes. Now, she has cashed in on their labor. What formalized agreement did she give any of her laborers? I'd like to see how it all evolves. How did Huffington go from wonderfully engaging conservative talker to liberal shill?

For those writers involved, I extend my best wishes. If the unions regulate Hollywood film and studios, maybe writers can unionize and bargain for their fair wages.
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DaisyDeedles Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:46 PM
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47. I've already been boycotting it because it's a shite website full of bugs.
So many gewgaws and whizbangs it takes forever and a half to open an article. That's if it doesn't cause your browser to freeze.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:54 PM
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49. I never read it in the first place. Having said that, I've never understood the attraction of
giving away one's work for free in exchange for "exposure." It's beyond stupid.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 12:54 PM
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50. I might boycott HuffPo if I ever read it in the first place...
...But it seems like 90% garbage, and even the "high quality" content is pretty bogus and just reads like some half-intelligent people whining.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:04 PM
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52. Bloated website.
I try not to go there or link there anyway, unless that is the single only area to find a story. Even then I'll try to wait a few days to see if it pops up somewhere else.
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:24 PM
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53. Kick
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:26 PM
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54. Sure, why not. It loads too slow, anyway.
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Drew Richards Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 01:58 PM
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55. Not Just Because of that but because
The entire site is a sham...She was a wealthy Republican before the blog site and now she is again and it shows in the articles being printed there and their bias in controlling comments, allowing Republican trolls unfettered access and blocking valid opposing commentators.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:26 PM
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57. Other -- I seldom go there.




The few times I visited her website it made my browser crash.
So I just don't go there any more.


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 06:32 PM
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58. Stopped reading it when it became People magazine online
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 07:06 PM
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61. I've been boycotting it ever since they sold it.
I've never been a big fan anyway. Arianna is an opportunist sellout, always has been, always will be.

I'd be happy if no one ever linked to HP again or even mentioned it in passing.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:15 AM
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63. Huffington..
... didn't "exploit" anyone. You cannot rape the willing. The people who contributed content did so under the rules that applied at the time.

That said, AOL is the kiss of death. If there is a company that can turn gold into shit, they are it. I rarely read HP before, and it will be even more rare now.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:40 AM
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64. She turned into everybody else in the msm. She's a money talks dudette. n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:45 AM
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65. Well, if I went there regularly in the first place, I might boycott it.
I went there a few times, but did not like it. When I did go, I noticed that it was full of popups that distracted me from what I was trying to read and took the cursor focus off the text, so I was forced to find a spot that wasn't an ad to click just so I could scroll down. It just wasn't worth it to go back after that experience.

That is one of my biggest pet peeves on any web site. I hate any site that has so many popups, ads, and flashing graphics that take your eye off the text you are trying to read. Fuck that shit. I hate that and any other nonsense that takes away the ability to scroll with the arrow keys without having to click the text repeatedly, while hoping you don't click an ad accidentally. That is beyond annoying.
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