Andrea Mitchell Gets Angry At Rumsfeld Over Iraq War 'Mr Secretary-You Know What Stove-Piping Means'

[kpete]

Source: Crooks and Liars

Andrea Mitchell Gets Angry At Rumsfeld Over Iraq War: 'Mr. Secretary, You Know What Stove-Piping Means.'

Mitchell: On your order.

Rumsfeld: Not on my orders at all. I was advised they did that and there was nothing wrong with that. There were a handful of people in there, 2 or 3 people, interpreting intelligence. They weren't creating it, they weren’t gathering it. And I think the implication of your question I think isn't consistent with what I understand to be the facts.

Mitchell: According to subsequent reports, Inspector General’s reports, that intelligence unit, that analysis unit in the Pentagon was stove-piping information – intelligence information.

Rumsfeld: What does that mean? Stove-piping?

Mitchell: Mr. Secretary, you know what stove-piping means. It was keeping intelligence information away from other units. Not permitting people in the CIA -

Rumsfeld: Oh, not at all.

Mitchell: - and not permitting Colin Powell to know all of the factors.

Rumsfeld: That is not true. That is factually not true.

Mitchell: Tyler Drumheller, the former CIA analyst who has written -

Rumsfeld: Never heard of him, Tyler Drumfeller. But I do know is that when I heard about this office and what they were doing and they briefed me once – once is all as I recall, I said, you should brief George Tenet and they did. There was no secret about it – there was nothing mysterious.

Mitchell: You were only briefed once?

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[Octafish]

1. ''Never heard of him, Tyler Drumfeller.''

One can almost hear it roll off of Rumsfeld's lips, as he continues to avoid the point.

[rurallib]

7. like Bush - "Ken Lay? - I have heard of him

"kenny boy" georgie

[hatrack]

2. A little late in the day, Mrs. Greenspan - not unlike your husband, come to think of it . . .

But thanks for playing!

[babylonsister]

5. No kidding, hatrack. #1 apologist for this crew. nt

[Vinnie From Indy]

3. Rummy has NEVER taken responsibility for anything

he is a douchebag and a liar

[L. Coyote]

4. You were only briefed once?

[horseshoecrab]

6. k&r 'cause rummy was...

only briefed once. :wtf:

Well heavens to betsy and goodness gracious me... :mad:

:argh:


horseshoecrab

[orion007]

9. You call that angry? Such a misleading headline n/t

[horseshoecrab]

10. Whaaaaaat?????

Not angry enough for your taste? Is that it? What are you --- the local anger monitor?

horseshoecrab

[bemildred]

8. Ms Mitchell knows perfectly well about liars and lying, since she does it so well herself. nt

[orion007]

11. Guess I am the angry moniter,because she certainly didn't

show "anger"
And my comment wasn't directed at you, I erred in replying to your post instead of OPs/
Chill out..

Definition of ANGRY
1
: feeling or showing anger
2
a : indicative of or proceeding from anger <angry words> b : seeming to show anger or to threaten in an angry manner <an angry sky>
3
: painfully inflamed <an angry rash>
— an·gri·ly \-grə-lē\ adverb

[SoCalDem]

12. What did Mrs Greenspan expect?

She, her media bosses and all the others gave Rummy "cover" for a very long time, and of course no one ever ever DARED to ask & demand answers to hard questions when it mattered.. faux outrage misplaced after such a long time, my dear...

[gratuitous]

13. Mitchell doesn't know what stove-piping is, either

It's not keeping information away from other units. It refers to the practice of making dubious connections between disparate pieces of information so as to come to a predetermined conclusion. Here's how it works: Adolf Hitler was a bad guy, leader of a nation-state. Scott Walker is the leader of a state. One of Hitler's first priorities when he came to power was to break the trade unions, atomizing the opposition. One of Scott Walker's first priorities on his ascension to power is to try to break the public employee unions, pitting workers against one another, and compartmentalizing the opposition. Therefore . . .

Wait, that example works pretty good. I'll have to think of another.