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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 07:58 AM
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Wisconsin's CORRUPT Governor Walker has a SECRET plan to sell power plants to the Koch Brothers!

NO BID contracts no less!

The Less Discussed Part of Walkers Wisconsin Plan: No-Bid Energy Assets Firesales.

Have you heard about 16.896?

The fight in Wisconsin is over Governor Walkers 144-page Budget Repair Bill. The parts everyone is focusing on have to do with the right to collectively bargain being stripped from public sector unions (except for the unions that supported Walker running for Governor). Focusing on this misses a large part of what the bill would do. Check out this language, from the same bill (my bold):

16.896 Sale or contractual operation of state−owned heating, cooling, and power plants. (1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state. Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b).
The bill would allow for the selling of state-owned heating/cooling/power plants without bids. This excellent catch is from Ed at ginandtacos.com (who, speaking of Madison, took me to the Essen Haus on my 21st birthday, where the night began to go sideways). Ed correctly notes:

If this isnt the best summary of the goals of modern conservatism, I dont know what is. Its like a highlight reel of all of the tomahawk dunks of neo-Gilded Age corporatism: privatization, no-bid contracts, deregulation, and naked cronyism. Extra bonus points for the explicit effort to legally redefine the term public interest as whatever the energy industry lobbyists we appoint to these unelected bureaucratic positions say it is.

In case it isnt clear where the naked cronyism comes in, remember which large, politically active private interest loves buying up power plants and already has considerable interests in Wisconsin. Then consider their demonstrated eagerness to help Mr. Walker get elected and bus in carpetbaggers to have a sad little pro-Mubarak style rally in his honor. There are dots to be connected here, but doing so might not be in the public interest.
Its important to think of this battle as a larger one over the role of the state. The attempt to break labor is part of the same continuous motion as saying that the crony, corporatist selling of state utilities to the Koch brothers and other energy interests is the new public interest.

http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/the-less-discussed-part-of-walkers-wisconsin-plan-no-bid-energy-assets-firesales/
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Indydem Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:04 AM
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1. I think thats a bit of hysteria.
They are far more likely to sell/ lease them to Alliant energy than the Koch borthers.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:18 AM
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5. Yeah, but the Kock brothers are EEEEVIL!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 02:32 PM
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31. Actually, they are. Do you support them? nt
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:37 PM
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36. I support them by a thread hanging over an active volcano. Okay ,I wish!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:34 AM
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44. Eh, yes, they ARE evil. Maybe you wrote that the wrong way
but it sounded like you are not aware of just how evil they are.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:28 AM
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 01:52 PM
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30. Groan
oh, wait...
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:03 AM
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13. I wonder how much Barbara Swan contributed to Walker's campaign.
The names may change, but the principle remains the same.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:00 PM
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23. and privatization is such a wonderful thing........not
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:09 AM
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2. Scott, how does it feel to be a Kulak for the Boyar Princes????
Almost every move Walker has made turns out to be on behalf of the rich activists.

I would say that Walker believes in the Russian way, circa 1300, but I don't think he has actually read much European history.


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usrname Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:48 AM
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47. Santayana
Those who do not remember history are bound to repeat it.

This whole autocratic rule by Walker (and watched by other Republican governors) may well bring about a bolshevik-like revolution. I don't think Walker realizes what he is getting himself into.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:11 AM
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3. Amazing. The languange of the bill nullifies four existing laws to allow for the sale
of public assets. If this isn't a case of blatant thievery, I don't know what is. This is equally important to the labor issues involved.

Wisconsin is screwed.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 04:55 PM
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34. "Without bids" & his in-your-face practice of rewarding his supporters, in any case, indicate
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 04:56 PM by pacalo
a good ol' boy attitude. Who financed his campaign?

Good find, Joanne!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:17 AM
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4. I hear he's running dog fights in his back yard! And he's involved in child porn and the slave trade
Let's stay focused, shall we?
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:21 AM
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7. It's the same budget bill. Not focused enough for you?
What's wrong with pointing out all of the flaws in it?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:37 AM
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16. Pointing out flaws -- good. Creating conspiracy theories -- not so much.
If you are wrong about this, you damage the important aspects of the argument. And why distract from the important aspects? Walker would be delighted to NOT talk about his problems right now and would far rather talk on your invention of his evil relationship with the Kochs. It's lose/lose. Let it go.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:42 AM
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17. Perhaps the subject line of the OP was speculative, but hardly conspiratorial.
The language of the budget bill allows for the sale of publicly owned utilities for any price, without any oversight, ignoring existing laws and protocols. It's part and parcel of the disease that plagues our country, enriching the wealthy on the backs of the poor and working class. All in the name of controlling spending.

We need to call bullshit early and often.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:25 PM
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40. "of course they wouldn't do that" hardly works with these guys
Passing a bill that allows public property to be sold without bids and without recourse is absolute idiocy, whoever is in charge. You have only to look back to what they tried to do with public properties in Bush's first term - their is nothing stupider than trusting these guys. Koch bought and paid for the current crop, so you know they are looking for their share.

Its way too predictable to be called a "conspiracy".
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:20 AM
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6. Piratization.
Thank you for the heads-up, Joanne98!

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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:22 AM
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8. Is the present union-busting situation to cover up that portion of the bill?
From past history with GW, we learned that the bigger the battle in one direction, the bigger the cheating in another.

Nice find.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:51 AM
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11. Yes
It also recalculates the state pension payout formula. There are there classes of pensions on that pays out at 2.5% one at 2.0% and one at 1.6%. The 2.0% bracket is being reduced to 1.6%. So he's stealing pension funds too.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 05:54 AM
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50. It is called obfuscation,
or a smoke screen by another name.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:24 AM
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9. K&R! //nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:55 AM
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12. Listening to a dick named Pete Sepp on CSPAN right now whining
about taxes to energy corp. He's the National Taxpayers Union Executive Vice President. Want taxes lower on big oilers again. Whining fucker wants more blood. Sucking up to Geitner, whining for the richies. :puke: "Let's simplify making a lot of profits." Yeah from our pockets to your rich asses. I say fuck you peter.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:15 PM
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29. Don't those companies already pay close to no taxes?
Or worse, get money back? Would lowering their taxes just up the payout?
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:10 AM
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14. Bastid. k +r
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:11 AM
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15. AND HE JUST STOPPED THE CONVERSION
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 09:49 AM by Lefta Dissenter
I was just about to start a thread on this, so thanks. The Charter St plant (for the University) was already underway in its conversion from coal to biofuel. I am not sure how much money had already been put into that. In preparation for this bill, he STOPPED that, so it would remain as a coal-burning plant.
edited to add link
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_b8d34374-24e2-11e0-b86c-001cc4c002e0.html

Gee, what are the Koch brothers into???

Whaddyathink? COAL!!!

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Wisconsin_Assembly_Bill_11,_the_%22Scott_Walker_Budget_Repair_Bill%22_%282011%29
summary of this provision of the bill

Currently, this state owns and operates numerous heating, cooling, and power plants that were constructed by the state to provide heating, cooling, and power to state facilities. The Department of Administration (DOA) determines the method of operation of these plants and may delegate this authority to any other state agency that has managing authority for a plant. This bill permits DOA to sell or contract for the operation of any such plant. The bill exempts such sales and contracts from the requirement for approval of the Public Service Commission (PSC) that may otherwise apply under current law. The bill provides that the net proceeds of any sale, after retirement of any outstanding state debt and any necessary repayment of federal financial assistance, is deposited in the budget stabilization fund. The bill also allows DOA, at any time, to petition the PSC to regulate as a public utility any person who purchases or contracts for the operation of any plant under the bill. Under current law, the PSC has regulatory authority over public utilities, including the authority to set rates for utility service.

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:08 AM
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19. The Koch Brothers need to be raked over the coals now!!!!!!!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 11:56 AM
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22. +1000000000000
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:06 PM
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26. Coal, huh? How interesting. Thanks for the heads-up.
This is all news to me, as I'm sure it was to a lot of us.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 04:04 PM
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32. Middle East resources are being cut off some. These Repubs and Teas are all Koch thugs. I think
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 04:05 PM by glinda
it might well be true that at the heart of almost everything right now, it is about the Kochs, BP, frackers, etc..... by diminishing any power of the people to donate, organize or be vocal will sew it all up for them.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 04:24 PM
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33. Good information. Thank you. n/t
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:06 AM
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18. At the same time MN. Repubs pushing for more nuclear power plants. Kick this.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 11:04 AM
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20. here's a kick

They get right to work destroying the states when they get elected, don't they?

Teabagger/Repukes are in a frenzy to hand it all over to their Corporate Overlords.

So much for the People...
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 11:53 AM
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21. Classic disaster capitalism..........
or maybe just classic capitalism.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:01 PM
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24. Republicans are notorious for their no-bid contracts in our state...
talk about nearly bankrupting our economy, it is just plain evil what they have done in our city and state. It's like a corporate mafia in many ways, then they have the nerve to lay off state employees because the money is gone...HELLOOOO, guess who made that possible??
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:03 PM
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25. K & R
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:10 PM
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27. K & R
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:11 PM
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28. K&R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:57 PM
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35. k*r Just like Egypt - big sell off of state industries.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:42 PM
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37. K&R
Their greed knows no limits.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:46 PM
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38. K&R
What a crooked rotten SOB.
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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:20 PM
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39. i love scorsese movies
Now the guy's got Paulie for a partner. Any problems, he goes to Paulie.
Trouble with the bill? He can go to Paulie. Trouble with the cops? Deliveries?
He can call Paulie.
But now the guy has got to come up with Paulie's money every week, no matter what.
Business bad? Fuck you, pay me.
Also, Paulie could do anything. Especially run up bills on the joint's credit.
Why not? Nobody's gonna pay for it anyway.
As soon as the deliveries are made in the front door, you move the stuff out the back and sell it at a discount.
You take a two hundred dollar case of booze and sell it for a hundred. It doesn't matter. It's all profit.
And, finally, when there's nothing left, when you can't borrow another buck from the bank
or buy another case of booze, you bust the joint out. You light a match.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:32 PM
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41. the koch bros.
were behind prop 23 here in cali, which we handily defeated last november. this is what they're doing with OUR money, they and their friends. just a reminder, even if you outspend your opponents by billions, doesn't mean you will win! meg whitman learned that one, heh.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 11:31 PM
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42. K&R a.k.a. Koch & Rotten nt
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 11:32 PM by madmax
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amb123 Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 12:47 AM
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43. Gov. Walker is addicted to Koch (Brothers)!
:hi:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:45 AM
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45. Hardball player Chris Mathews considers this a non-story...
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:47 AM
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46. The Washington Post Doesn't
But some won't have to sacrifice nearly so much. Walker's campaign platform called for sharp cuts in corporate taxes, including "eliminating corporate taxes for the first two years of operation." His budget repair bill proposes to allow the state to sell energy plants "with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state," and goes on to say that "any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/21/AR2011022104583.html
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 02:59 AM
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48. The Washington Post doesn't mention "Koch Brothers" what r u talking about?!!!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 03:45 AM
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49. Could that be called quid pro quo? Sure looks like it to me.
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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 05:54 AM
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51. If this goes through, we need to poison the contract

    The Democrats in Wisconsin need to insist on high deliver rates on the power plants. There should be a 90% up time clause with stiff penalties for non-delivery.

    The environmental regulations on all the plants should be enforced to the letter of the law. Maximum fines for each violation.

    If the Koch brothers want the plants, make their ownership a miserable and non-profitable experience.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 05:57 AM
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52. Typical Republicon scumbaggery
Republicon Family Profiteering Values, right out of the ethical cesspool.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:27 AM
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53. The blatant manipulation of democracy!
This story has me so mad that I cannot even see straight. Eighteen months ago we witnessed a media tsunami that built the Tea Party and today we are watching the working class get shit while the media is sitting on the sidelines.
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