Wow. It's still early, but Morning Joe is now praising the unions?

[BzaDem]

Apparently, last week, Morning Joe spent days bashing the unions for their "lavish" benefits/pensions/whatever. Even though the issue was always about collective bargaining rights -- something that they never seemed to mention in the media.

But now, even Joe (and others) are praising the unions for conceding the increase in payments to their pensions/healthcare, essentially taking everything off the table except Walker's pure union busting. They're saying labor is meeting the governor half way.

It's like they have all of a sudden woken up and realized what the issue was from the beginning.

There's still a lot of nonsense about labor unions being the biggest force in politics (as if citizens united or election 2010 never happened), but I'm glad they are at least acknowledging what this debate is really about now (union busting).

[malaise]

1. I refuse to watch

Fuck Joe Scum

[w8liftinglady]

2. no.. I can't. I'd puke..then fall asleep.

:evilgrin:

[eShirl]

8. duzy!

:rofl: omg :rofl:

[janedum]

3. I don't understand stomething ...

Aren't Wisconsin POLICE and FIREMEN in UNIONS?
Why were they excluded?

[RandomThoughts]

4. That is a standard tactic.

It comes from concepts of security states, the concept of Roman empire civilizations, war civilizations have a better treatment of police and military units to buy them off, since security states need the support of that apparatus.

It is an ideological model if he excluded police from other union cuts.

[BzaDem]

6. Those unions supported Walker's election campaign. The prison guards' union, on the other hand, did

not, and they were not exempt from Walker's proposal.

[Skidmore]

5. I turned over for a minute in time to see Mike Allen breathlessly assuring the lemmings

that "labor is losing the PR war" and that R governors are taking note. Did it for me. The R media machine flogs the nation.

[BzaDem]

7. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that the coverage was uniformly (or even mostly) pro-union.

I'm just shocked that they said anything pro-union at all. I guess I have pretty low standards for that show. I would have suspected that they just ignored labor's concession and still pretended this was all about filling the deficit.

[CTyankee]

13. Something is wrong with Mike Allen. He always has this nutty look on his face.

something is off there...

[mascarax]

9. Maybe our emails helped

At least so they'd throw a few bones to the union.
Their bashing was very bad. Friday was just unbelievable with their lies and bashing. There were multiple threads about it, and we started emailing.

[noel711]

10. Not a chance..-+

the only reason I turned it on was hoping they'd have on
someone from Labor, but no, the same old tripe.

The only reason they were being more respectful of the unions
was 'all the vitriolic emails..'

Poor Joe can't take the heat.

They then resorted to short footage, filmed by the NRC
at the protest showing terrible, horrible, shameful
signs that called Walker a dictator, a hitler,
and GASP! a sign with cross hairs on his face.

Where the fuck was the outrage at the teabaggers
signs of Obama! And the rage when Sarah Palin put
cross hairs on democratic candidates?

Then he asked why the mainstream media didn't show
those signs? Jesus! The mainstream media is saying
almost nothing about these protests!
Of course, his answer? Liberal media! Of course!
Such freakin' hypocrisy!
Stupid stupid stupid.

This was no favorable union discussion.
Just opened the window a crack so he could say he was fair.

[spanone]

11. joe should praise unions, he's a member of AFTRA

American Federation of Television and Radio Artists

http://www.aftra.org/

[Drahthaardogs]

12. I noticed yesterday that even FAUX

news stated several times that the union has agreed to concessions and this is about dismantling the union. Of course then in the next sentence they would rail about union benefits and how they hurt us in hard times. Crazy.

[Bluenorthwest]

14. Blah, blah, politics, yadda yadda yadda. Joe is in showbiz.

As are his sidekicks, Mikey or whomever. They do television entertainment for a living, and right now they are on the bottom fucking rung of the biz. Morning on MSNBC is the same as being retired, very few viewers. Pay, by media standards, very low.
If Joe or Misha or whatever wish to have a future that is larger than a few thousand people watching them off gas in the morning, the jobs they will need are Union jobs, in Union Shops. And while Mr Snotbox, VP of the Network can bring them to some new show, if the other Union people do not want them there, their lives would be a misery, and the show a failure.
I'm sure the Joe Show folks got some perspective over the weekend. They are in a Unionized business, and they are trying to climb the ladder, and that ladder is Union.