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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:27 PM
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Anonymous is complicated.
http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=494


I didn't agree with their calling out of Westboro Baptist Church. And for the reasons they list in their posting.

Westboro Baptist Church has no power over any one. They are not a government, they are not in a position to deprive anyone of their rights. Nor are they in a position to keep information from those who have a right to it.

Yes, they are major, fucked up pains in the ass. But they have as much right to spew their hate as we have to call them on it.

Thanks Anon for allowing us to view your process in such a transparent fashion.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:29 PM
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1. Ugh. I kind of agree
:facepalmtothe10th:

If there are crimes, then there is something to go on, but these freaks are lawyers.

Tax evasion, I am praying.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:01 PM
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8. lol, your concern is noted. nt
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:09 PM
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10. Not sure what to say here
I mean we have a bill of rights. These people ARE freaks.

Not sure how to stop them unless they are illegally misusing or mis-categorizing "church" funds.



But thanks for the concern troll reference.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:42 PM
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2. I won't lose any sleep over an attack
on useless homophobes who disrupt brave soldiers' funerals for no good reason.

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:43 PM
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3. +100000
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:44 PM
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5. +1,000 ^ n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:45 PM
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6. Agree, and well put. nt
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:55 PM
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12. Same here.
But the ethical lines aren't exactly distinct in these situations. I like knowing that Anonymous isn't the only one to consider that these issues aren't cut and dried.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:43 PM
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4. It is complicated and in a really great direction.
:)
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:42 PM
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13. Yepper +1
nt
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 08:58 PM
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7. The only reason the Westboro Church has any "power"
and I use that term loosely is because we keep talking about it, same with Sarah "You Betcha" Palin who seems to have fallen off the face of the earth finally.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 10:47 PM
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14. I'm with you on that one.
But somebody please tell HuffPo.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:02 PM
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9. Anonymous says they didn't originate the letter ...
Here's Anonymous' comment:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20033942-501465.html

Let me be VERY clear - this does not originate with Anonymous, and hopefully Anon will continue to ignore them.

The Anon website which "announced" this uses free posting. This was posted by WBC.

Again - the letter from "Anonymous" to WBC was posted by WBC themselves. And within an extremely short time there was a "response", challenging Anon to come.

This is a publicity stunt by WBC. They hope triggering an attack with Anon will bring them cred. Or at least the Streisand Effect.

Please don't help WBC with this horrid attempt at publicity. Don't buy in, don't let others buy in, and do be disgusted at the lengths Phelp and co. will go for face time.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:49 PM
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11. how would they know?
They claim to not be an organization, no leadership, don't have a clue who is part of the "group" and who isn't, etc. It very well could have been someone acting on their own on behalf of Anonymous believing they're part of that so loosely defined "group". And it's probably another Anonymous "member" acting on their own on behalf of Anonymous believing they're part of that so loosely defined "group" that made this counter claim. That's what happens when you have such a group with no organization whatsoever, don't know who's in it and who's not, and have no organization agenda.








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