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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:04 AM
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I got a doctor's note to return to work after being sick. Here is what he told me...
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 12:07 AM by uppityperson
My doc told me he was prohibited by law from writing anything on the note beyond the fact I had been under his care and he was releasing me to go back to work as of that date. He said many people do not understand the privacy laws, that they prohibit anything beyond that simple info.

I asked him if my employer asked what I had been sick with, if I had to say. He told me no. However, my employer wanted to track who was getting sick from what so I volunteered that it had been a URI.

When I got the "return to work" note that my employer required (I had been out sick more than 2 days), my doctor didn't even take my temperature, just asked if I felt well enough to return to work. It took about 5 minutes in total and cost $15 copay.

HIPPA and other privacy laws are interesting.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:07 AM
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1. Agreed, no reason needs to be given.
That's what we have always been told with doctor's notes for the kids for school. When I write an excuse I *never* tell them what they had--none of their damn biz, sick is sick.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:13 AM
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2. I used to just say...
"Believe you me, you did not want them spreading this to everyone. Ick." :-)
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:14 AM
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3. We have a large family...
we spread it around pretty damn fast!

:hi:
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:21 AM
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4. Oh yes. Families share EVERYTHING.
:hi:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:29 AM
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5. You don't have to be sick. It is not a pain to have to get these notes, and what they are is amusing
"yes, I saw uppity today" and they could do this in the parking lot of the grocery store if you were lucky enough to run into them there and accost them for a note. No reason is given. No reason is allowed to be give unless the patient says so.

It seems weird and in a way is actually telling whomever nothing beyond they talked with their doctor, but is how it is these days.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:31 AM
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6. If people, including concern trolls here, are worried about the "professional ethics" of such notes
being "diluted" by doctors writing sick notes for the Madison protesters, I hope they take the next step and realize how fucking demeaning it is to be required to bring a note in to one's employer to "prove" they were absent for a reason, as if they were in junior high.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:42 AM
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8. Indeed. I was amazed and appalled when mine did. I was responsible for livesq
in a nursing job. And I couldn't come back to work without a note that said I'd seen my doctor.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 04:18 AM
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10. You feel like a child. I cannot remember needing a note for sick leave.
Maybe I needed notes a long time ago. What a stupid rule.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 05:53 AM
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11. There's nothing demeaning about getting a medical certificate...
Though here what the certificate says is that the doctor examined the person on whatever date it was and considers them unfit for work on whatever the dates are. I had a medical certificate covering two and a half months late last year when I had major surgery and there was nothing demeaning at all about showing it to my manager so she could approve my sick leave application. How it works is that some of the sick leave I accrue each year can be used without needing to get a medical certificate, and the bigger chunk can only be used if I supply a medical certificate. That's fair enough to me....
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:41 PM
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13. There can be about getting a return to work note
Last time I worked as a nurse I was out sick for 3 days with the flu. I needed a doctor's note to return to work, certifying that I was able to return. I could not return to work until I went to my doctor, paid my copay and got this note. So I did. The note said "uppity was under my care and can return to work".

When I got back to work, all sorts of employees were there sick with the flu. I found it demeaning that I, who is responsible for people's lives, needed a note to return to work. That my employer did not think I was capable of assessing whether or not I was capable. Yet I assess health/sickness and treat people at that job.

Those who did not call in sick, who continued to work sick, they were fine working. Yet I, who took a couple days off to heal and not spread it further, needed a note from my doctor.

Demeaning? Yes.

Oh, I got no sick pay either.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:47 PM
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16. Being sick, say with a migraine, doesn't always necessitate a Dr's visit.
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 01:48 PM by WinkyDink
HAVING TO GO is WHAT IS the CRAPPY PART.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 07:28 AM
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12. Thank you for imparting the true take home message of this
When I have to go to my doctor for an "excuse" (I work in a NICU and feel a personal and professional ethic not to work if I'm likely to spread something to my young charges!), she and I just roll our eyes at each other. We both find it absurd, as any adult should. Alas, I think management may destroy a person's brain or at least their ability to understand how demeaning this silly practice is. I think they hear management and think they hear motherhood. It's an easy mistake but an annoying one.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:34 AM
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7. I like that your privacy is protected under HIPPA, but doesn't the Patriot Act trump that privacy?
I'm just wondering for those who have rattled the wrong cages?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 12:43 AM
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9. I am sure there are back ways in, and courts can demand files.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:45 PM
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15. I'm betting not.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:44 PM
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14. "However, my employer wanted to track ...." requires a loud "HELL, NO!" Jeez.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:51 PM
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17. Indeed, even calling in sick we aren't allowed to know the reason. If they want to share, fine, but
legally we do not need to know.

Used to be "I'm calling in sick" OK, what is wrong with you?
Now it is "I'm calling in sick" Thank you. Please call us if you won't be in tomorrow.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:01 PM
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18. My boss asks, then spreads it around the office. I don't give him the info. I'm sure it makes
him angry. Inappropriate busy body
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