How do you feel about the fact that President Obama is giving GHWBush a PresidentialMedalOfFreedom?

[Electric Monk]

I think I might vomit.

[madrchsod]

1. i guess it comes with the job...

[polichick]

2. Better than giving one to his son, who should be prosecuted...

...and would be, if the U.S. was really about liberty and justice for all.

[rfranklin]

3. "I was out of the loop" Bush?

The one who helped supply thugs and terrorists with weapons?

[polichick]

13. I sure wouldn't give him one - but then, I rarely agree with the prez these days. nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

41. Sr. should have been jailed decades ago.

[ixion]

4. The same way I always feel when Obama supports the neocons

sick to my stomach. :puke:

[peace frog]

5. Pass the honey bucket

I feel the chunks rising as well.

::Rant ahead, sorry::

Why oh WHY does that self-satisfied, smirking MORON get a pass on everything? Not only a pass, but accolades, fer crap sake, like he ever did anything worthy of honor and praise!

BBBBLLLLLEEEECCCHHHHHHH

[Deep13]

6. #41 pardoned Casper Weinberger for his role in the...

...treasonous Iran-Contra affair. Had Weinberger been prosecuted, it may have brought GHW Bush's role to light.

I don't think Obama should be rewarding people who use the pardon power to obstruct justice and to hide the truth.

[The Second Stone]

7. The PMOF is a sick disgusting joke

I'd refuse one. That said, GHWB didn't intend W to be a complete idiot and tool, he just knew and helped him get elected.

[Webster Green]

15. I guess you know nothing about Poppy's adventures.

The evil deeds of the Bush Crime Family did not begin with the chimp.

Prescott Bush? Ever heard of that mutherfucker?

Do some googling. I'm too lazy, and already know all about it.

[gateley]

18. Yeah, I was wondering if Obama had read Family of Secrets. nt

[shanti]

45. read?

he's probably part of it.

[gateley]

55. I'm guessing you haven't because your comment makes no sense - but kudos

on getting the Obama jab in, though! :thumbsup:

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. Not surprising

[Proud Liberal Dem]

9. Meh

GHWBush seemed a lot more sensible and reasonable than his son was (he knew it would be an awful idea to try to overthrow Hussein after GW1 and he kept his word to our allies). I'm not going to argue that he was a great guy and/or that his hands are clean or anything but, as Republicans go, I would've rather had him for POTUS than his son. I'll save my outrage (and vomit) for when President Obama gives GWBush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and/or Condi Rice a "Presidential Medal of Freedom."

[immoderate]

10. Sisgraceful and incestuous.

--imm

[Rex]

11. Well if current history means anything, it is part of the job handing

out trophies to the biggest war criminals on the planet or corporate criminal ponzi artist or foreign megaconglomerate of the month. Might have stood for something at one time, now it is just another feather in the cap of the wealthy.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. About the same way I felt when Ford pardoned Nixon.

Or, when I discover that water is wet.

[onehandle]

14. Neutral. That medal is just a hair more important than a White House souvenir pen.

Judging by who's received it.

The Grammy has more gravitas.

[Forkboy]

16. I find it pretty symbolic of the times we live in.

[democrat2thecore]

20. Yep! -nt

[QC]

28. Good point.

What could better illustrate the narrowing divide between the two parties?

And as I said in another thread, I am suddenly struck with renewed gratitude that Pol Pot is dead.

[tallahasseedem]

17. I agree with your sentiment completely.

Ugh.

[eilen]

19. I guess it is as meaningful as the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Obama nt.

[grahamhgreen]

21. Instead of arresting him for torturing innocent people and starting an illegal war?

Not so good.

[frazzled]

25. Yo, that was the misfit son

This was the father. Discuss amongst yourselves.

[grahamhgreen]

31. Oops! Senior?

Well, I'd rather have seen him give it to Carter.

[frazzled]

32. Jimmy Carter already got his back in 1999

Rosalynn got one, too. I don't think you can get them twice.

Bill Clinton is next in line. He should be up soon.

[hiley]

22. ill

just ill.

[jaxx]

23. I'm sorry I opened this thread.

Sometimes the hatred expressed here is just too much.

unrec

[Electric Monk]

35. Do you have Octafish on your ignore list? Just curious. nt

[Electric Monk]

64. wave?

:hi: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x429603 :hi:

[frazzled]

24. Along with Jasper Johns, Maya Angelou, John Sweeney, Bill Russell

I could care less about George H.W. Bush.

We saw a Mexican-American civil rights activist, a gay painter, a Chinese-American musician, an African-American literary figure, an Irish-American labor leader, a Jewish-American holocaust survivor, and many more, including ... Stan the Man Musial ... have their incredible contributions honored today.

Why focus on the negative. I love the Medal of Freedom Honors day: it reminds me of the positive, and of the remarkable contributions that citizens from all walks of life make to this country. Enjoy it, and stop focusing on your hatreds. It impedes our ability to do good.

I was very moved by these awards. Even that of the man I voted against vehemently: GHW Bush. That's what makes us a great country.

[northoftheborder]

26. don't see why GHWB deserves this. very mediocre president.

[Rex]

27. This is ticket punching and nothing more.

Routine stuff.

[slackmaster]

29. I'll explain my feelings visually

[L. Coyote]

30. Collaborator!

[Zoeisright]

33. I think it's disgusting.

That foul jerk did nothing to advance freedom or any principle of this country.

[Javaman]

34. Meh. Folks, when you understand that the president of the US

is so completely removed from 1) reality 2) the average American and plays by the tune of the beltway, then everything becomes clear.

It's all part of the fraternal order of back slapping and glad handing.

Their various minions tell them what they want to hear and screen out the objections.

They, at best, get a view of things through a milky opaque window, while we, daily, see filthy reality.

So am I angry that Obama is giving moron* this tin plated title? Nope. I actually expect it.

[walldude]

37. Java you have been speaking my mind

more and more with every post you write. :toast:


"They, at best, get a view of things through a milky opaque window, while we, daily, see filthy reality." Truer words have never been spoken.

[Odin2005]

36. Obama is to the RIGHT of Reagan.

[JoseGaspar]

38. President gives "freedom" medal to former head of the secret police...

What is the "moral question", again?

[elehhhhna]

39. i feel that he's Benedict O'Arnold

[AngryOldDem]

40. Disgusted, but not at all surprised.

Is he also advocating for Reagan to be put on Rushmore, too?

[anAustralianobserver]

42. Sort of an icicle of alarm under my left ribs; probably the same as Obama is feeling about it;

so why is he doing it?

Sorry I've made up my mind it's *not* because he's a stealth Republican or because he just needs everyone to love him. To me it looks like he's in both personal and national security survival mode. Same as the Dem leadership has been in for years.

[shanti]

47. yes

something just doesn't ring true, does it?

[Blasphemer]

43. I really can't get worked up over something like this

Do I think he deserves it? Not really. I don't think that his public service has been particularly distinguished compared to Jimmy Carter, for example, but as far as Washingtonian insider nonsense goes, this is fairly innocuous.

[anAustralianobserver]

44. Well you can't blame people for being old school about not giving national medals

to people who lie to start or prosecute wars.

[EFerrari]

52. Oh, I don't know. For the thousands of people he got dead

in IranContra alone, he should get SOMETHING.

[Forkboy]

54. The fact that it's "fairly innocuous" speaks volumes.

[Canuckistanian]

46. He needs ToHaveHisHeadExamined

Poppy Bush? Freedom?

[QC]

48. Be honest--were you surprised?

Disgust is a perfectly understandable reaction, but it's hard to be surprised at this point?

[lonestarnot]

49. Obama's dog deserves it more. Hell my dog deserves it more.

[kevinbgoode]

50. He should have given him a gallon of milk. . .

with the price tag still on it.

[kenny blankenship]

51. A vertiginous, gutwrenching, hair-raising lack of surprise.

Actually I am a tiny bit surprised. I'm surprised he didn't give the medal to Dick Cheney.

[QC]

56. There's always next year!

[EFerrari]

59. LOL, jinx!

[EFerrari]

58. There's always next year. n/t

[krispos42]

53. If he pounds it into his forehead with a sledgehammer, then I feel great about it.

And I hope his son and his all the members of his son's administration get one as well.

[devilgrrl]

57. I think I may join you in vomiting

:puke:

[The Wielding Truth]

60. It cheapens the honor for others.

[Monk06]

61. It means the medal is worthless and you should stop worrying about it. MOFs are like assholes

every president has one. Obama will get one when he goes.
I'm sure he could care less. It will probably end up as
a collar ornament for BO.

[Imagevision]

62. Really, it just comes with the job...

[Imagevision]

63. George H.W. Bush - the only American who doesn't know where he was on 11/22/1963

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[Matariki]

66. I think THEY got to him.

And now they're just making him do humiliating things.

[timtom]

67. Bought and paid-for. nt