Any spending cuts without a tax increase on the rich is a joke!

[KansasVoter]

The cuts ONLY hurt the middle and lower class.

Obama KNOWS this. But is going to implement them.

Where has the RICH paid their dues in this economy??

This sounds like the GOP is controlling the whole damn government.

[RandomThoughts]

1. And that means we don't have a democracy.

Either by fraudulent elections, lack of information, or lack of education.


And that has to change, for better results for all the people in society.

[Wounded Bear]

8. Never really did.....

American history is actually a series of attempts to increase true democracy and overcome the limits the founding fathers put on our government, largely because most of them were quite fearful of true democracy.

We're in a period of increasing republicanism, apparently heading toward more and more plutocracy, with no end in sight. The righties seem to want to run us all the way back to feudalism.

Sucks, don't it?

:(

[Common Sense Party]

12. No spending cuts without beer and travel money.

[RandomThoughts]

19. The beer and travel money is a different issue.

That is due from an injustice done long ago. You are trying to link that to some comment or thought I might have on what is better, that would be attaching a string or deal to beer and travel money, it is due.

So I would still argue best ideas as I see them of coarse, with beer and travel money.

You are tying to make that a deal when it is not, it is what is due.

[Common Sense Party]

22. You're damn right it's due.

It's due to all of us.

It's not a deal. It's a right.

They can cut spending, sure...but ONLY if they first INCREASE spending, and give us ALL the beer and travel money the Founding Fathers promised.

We have ALL suffered from this injustice.

You, perhaps, more than most.

But together we stand, divided we thirst.

[bbgrunt]

2. ..and the joke is on us.

[maryf]

3. and we're not laughing...

Tax the rich!!!

[Warpy]

4. Also any spending cuts that don't start with the bloated Pentagon budget

are a sick joke that will only take money out of an economy that is barely functioning at this point.

The only hope for this country is a total repudiation of conservatism in general and the GOP in particular that results in massive cuts at the Pentagon combined with a return to a truly progressive tax structure that rewards effort and penalizes greed.

Nothing else will save us.

[msongs]

5. it is official Obama governing policy with help from his fellow republicrats in congress nt

[handmade34]

6. "...spending cuts without a tax increase on the rich is a joke!"

not only a joke (that we're not laughing at) but truly a sin (if Christian) and bad karma and downright stupid

[Mr Generic Other]

7. you are right kansasvoter.

i think there should be a boycott on any spending cuts until the tax breaks for the rich expire.. if we can afford to give them huge tax breaks then we can afford to keep basic services going.
no spending cuts until the rich pay their share.

[Bluebear]

9. Obama knows, and doesn't care.

What other explanation can there be?

[Xenotime]

13. Please don't say that..

We need to give President Obama a chance.

[Bluebear]

14. A chance to do what, decimate more "entitlements" and heating programs?

I don't know what his game is but his heart is not progressive.

[hfojvt]

16. you are joking right?

He's already had over 730 chances. And every day he kicks a little more dirt in our faces.

[truedelphi]

21. What my household has gotten kicked in our faces

Doesn't really smell like dirt.

And when we look at the rest of the USA's population, we are among the more fortunate ones. No crude oil on our beaches, no Corexit in our systems, no 580+ chemicals for Fracking Fluids in our well water. And right now, no worry about where our next week's worth of food is coming from.

[KansasVoter]

24. I see your point but explain cutting taxes on the rich but making spending cuts!

[Skittles]

25. you are kidding, right?

he has blown pretty much every chance he has received

[Cal33]

10. And a pretty lousy joke, too. Is helping to increase the amount of

misery and the number of deaths among the middle-class and poor really funny - even if
it's done for the sake of appeasing the corporate leaders? There are some 45,000
unnecessary deaths every year because these people couldn't afford medical treatment!

[EFerrari]

11. Austerity is only for the little people. Get with the program.

:sarcasm:

[polichick]

15. The same entity does control the whole damn government...

...but it's not the GOP. Both GOP and Dems are expendable whores to their corporate masters.

Seeing Pres. Obama apologize and beg before the CofC was sickening.

[hfojvt]

17. there is zero chance of that passing the House

but Obama, Reid and Pelosi should be bringing it up every hour on the hour.

Except Obama and Reid can't because they punted on their moral authority back in December when they had a chance to increase taxes on the wealthy and decided not to.

Remember when we were crazy in love?

http://lanekenworthy.net/2008/01/16/clinton-edwards-and-obama-on-how-to-reduce-poverty/

“Obama, Edwards, and Clinton all have multifaceted and serious anti-poverty plans. Anyone concerned with poverty issues could happily vote for any of them."

[KansasVoter]

23. +1

[Rosa Luxemburg]

18. the rich must pay before the poor pay or else

[Faryn Balyncd]

20. K&R...The uber-rich pay a LOWER total federal marginal tax rate than the middle class:

http://www.economics-finance.org/jefe/econ/Allenpaper2.pdf

(And this is true EVEN IF all of their income was taxed as regular income (which it is not, since large portions are taxed as capital gains, which are at a much lower rate, and all capital gains, interest, dividends, and tax free municiple investments are all exempt from FICA)

also at Footnote 1. here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x401537




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[Kablooie]

26. Well, laugh clown, laugh. The jokes on us.

[Mister Ed]

27. Money saved by gutting social programs will not be used to reduce national debt.

Instead, it will inevitably be transferred to the oligarchs who have their snouts so firmly planted in the public trough.