Outraged in AZ! :)

[lonestarnot]

http://www.kpho.com/news/26721011/detail.html

Can Arizona Override Federal Laws?
Elizabeth Erwin
Reporter, KPHO CBS 5 News

PHOENIX -- A bill that pretty much says Arizona leaders can throw out federal laws is making its way through the state legislature.

If passed and signed into law, Senate Bill 1433 would give members of the state legislature the power to override federal laws and executive orders.

•Link: SB 1433 Full Text

State lawmakers Russel Pearce, Lori Klein, Sylvia Allen, Judy Burges, Jack Harper and Steve B. Montenegro sponsored the bill. It would allow a committee of 12 people -- six from the House and six from the Senate -- to recommend to the full legislature which laws they think are unconstitutional.

[unhappycamper]

1. Good luck with that! n/t

[lonestarnot]

3. Comments there are great. Also polls are looking like AZ voters

are annoyed. snort

[CanonRay]

2. Didn't this used to be called "secession"?

[Possumpoint]

9. Correct Term

is nullification. Been tried before on the basis that the constitution gives certain powers to the Federal government and reserves the rest to the states. Many feel that the Federal Government has grown and now oversteps its constitutional powers.

[spanone]

11. how many?

[Possumpoint]

15. Who Knows?

No way to tell.

[lonestarnot]

12. And many are fucking ignorant!

[Possumpoint]

16. Read Article X of the Bill of Rights AKA Amendment 10

and then talk to me about ignorance.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. There's this inconvenient little thing in the Constitution

known as the Supremacy Clause:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

:eyes:

[Possumpoint]

17. Devil's in the Details

"Anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding". Check out the the 10th amendment in the Bill of Rights.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. The 10th Amendment doesn't do anything to restrict unenumerated federal powers

as implied by the Necessary and Proper clause. Also, several Supreme Court cases (U.S. v. Sprague, U.S. v. Darby) have held that the 10th Amendment does nothing except declare the already-established relationship between the states and the federal government. Challenges to federal supremacy based on the 10th Amendment have been mostly unsuccessful.

[Possumpoint]

22. True

But doesn't make it right.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

23. It's the law.

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. They'll turn AZ into a third world country before they're done.

[mmonk]

6. Another nut job bill sponsored by racist Russell Pearce?

[lonestarnot]

7. Yes and take a look at what he breeds on this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x337734

[mmonk]

13. Thanks.

[Ian David]

8. Sorry, wrong thread. n/t

[lonestarnot]

10. Good God.

:puke:

[MattBaggins]

14. Who needs the Supreme Court?

These guys are much smarter anyway.

[Angry Dragon]

18. radical republican motto

"I want my country back, I love this country, I love the Constitution, but I hate the parts that stifle my bigotry and greed"

[treestar]

19. This is a good argument for lawyers being elected representatives

Do these morons even have the slightest clue about the law? And yet they are elected to make the law of that state. Seems they should know their own boundaries.

[lonestarnot]

20. Did any of them graduate from h.s.?