I'm so tired of the forces of what I consider good always being crushed.

[deutsey]

[slackmaster]

1. Did your favorite TV show get cancelled?

Details, please.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. I don't think he's talking about TV shows.

Or are you trying to be funny?

[slackmaster]

8. It would be nice if the OP had given some indication what this is about

:argh:

[CaliforniaPeggy]

9. Even so, snarking at him is not the way to handle it, IMHO.

I mean, it IS GD. If he had been talking about a TV show cancellation, he would probably have put this post in the Lounge.

Just sayin'...

[deutsey]

15. Well, as Rev. Jim on Taxi once observed, TV is our preferred reality

As Rev. Jim said on Taxi:

"You know the really great thing about television? If
something important happens, anywhere in the world, night or day
...you can always change the channel."

I need just need to learn to change the channel to my favorite popular show and all will be right with the world.

[TBF]

19. It's a political message board - WTF do you think he's talking about.

:eyes:

[slackmaster]

22. I really, honestly don't know. I can think of several possibilities, but I don't watch TV all day.

Like many DUers seem to do.

[TBF]

24. I only watch sports on TV, but if you are on DU you know what the top

concerns are. If you are totally clueless that's fine, but I suspect you're not.

[deutsey]

11. Yeah. that's it. TV is reality, after all. All my hopes surround what's on and what's not.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. Me too, my dear deutsey...

Me too.

:hug:

[PassingFair]

4. That seemingly useless exertion is the only thing that keeps...

the arc of the moral universe bending towards justice.

Sucks, but we have to keep fighting the good fight,
even if it seems that we always lose.

:hug:

[deutsey]

13. No argument there. Still, ever since 2000, and especially what's

happening in Egypt right now, it's fucking discouraging to see people fighting, dying, and losing for what we (or many of us here) say we believe in regarding what makes life worthwhile, what make society good. Does the "arc" really bend toward justice? I don't know.

But ultimately it doesn't matter what I believe or what I struggle for, personally. If I take a more Buddhistic view...or a more Vonnegutesque view...I just have to concede: So it goes.

[PassingFair]

16. I absolutely believe that the arc bends toward justice. I'm a woman.

I decided who and when and how I would be married.
I decided how many children I would have.

Centuries ago, none of that would have been possible.

It is still not possible for many, but I also believe
that Islam is going through a type of reformation, and
won't force 1st century rules on 21st century people for
much longer.

It's a struggle, but you can't stop truth.

:hug:

[Danger Mouse]

5. It's human nature. The strong crush the weak. Evil revels in strength and dominance.

That's why it's so hard to defeat without becoming evil yourself.

[deutsey]

14. In all honesty, I do not believe good triumphs.

I believe evil, by its very nature, ends up imploding on itself (dragging many down with it), and good is left picking up the pieces.

Still, dedicating oneself to the good is crucial because we need someone there to help pick up those pieces.

[Curmudgeoness]

28. Deutsey, honey, you really are down tonight.

But I have to agree with you. Since evil will go to extremes that good would never consider, they can often win.

But we have to be able to look ourselves in the face and live with ourselves. Try to focus on times when good does triumph. It really does sometimes. And at those times, evil looks worse than ever.

:hug:

[gateley]

6. And always by greed, power and love of money. nt

[northoftheborder]

7. I know what you mean. The better person/cause loses all too often. Discouraging.

[bluestateguy]

10. Similarly, I don't like it when people pour cold water all over good news

As I like to say, "don't pee in my Wheaties. I am having a parade and I will not have it rained on"

[deutsey]

12. Thanks. Note to self: never pee on Wheaties.

[sofa king]

17. It often takes a certain amount of evil to accomplish good things.

I know many of you will disagree with that. But if you want your revolution to stick, several things need to happen.

First, the hardcore loyalists of the old regime have to be defeated and dispersed, and that usually means killing enough of them to get the rest running. They also have to be searched for, intercepted, and killed when they invariably return to subvert and knock over the new government.

Second, almost every revolution is immediately followed by a counter-revolution as fringe groups find themselves left out of the new order... again... and have to be put down by the new government. That effer Hitler knew all about it, saying, "all revolutions devour their own children," as he was busy killing off a good proportion of the street thugs who carried him to power.

Third, and also like children, revolutionary governments have a bad habit of resembling their parents. Revolutionary France quickly devolved from a democratic republic to a terroristic oligarchy to a consulate to a dictatorship that successfully played itself off as a royal family, exactly like that which was deposed in 1789. Violence, intrigue, and coercion are often required to steer the new government away from such a course, and sometimes it requires autocratic moves on the part of a single individual to pull it off (see for example George Washington quelling an officers' revolt and the Whiskey Rebellion).

Fourth, and maybe most important, the money always backs itself first, and stability next, which makes the people with the money a rival revolutionary force from the very beginning. They have an interest in changing things, too, for greed knows no bounds and governments can always be restructured to make a handful of rich people even richer (see the US, 2001-2009). The people with the money have to be physically intimidated and threatened with total loss to prevent them from using their power to kill the revolution. The money for Mubarak's goons is a good example: some enterprising revolutionary is going to have to find and murder the organizers, and steal their payroll, or the goons will just keep coming. There is no way to play it nice, that I know of, but I'd be happy to be corrected with examples.

All governments are evil. All governments are kleptocracies, because they all take away wealth from some and re-disperse it to others. All governments trample the rights of the individual, because some individuals invariably prove to be f#$ing a$$holes who have to be controlled to some extent.

Any movement that tries to dodge those basic truths is doomed to fail.

[Bragi]

18. Why must the US always end up backing the wrong side?

Seeing Obama bail on the pro-democracy movement demand and give Mubarak a new ease on life was truly depressing.

[TBF]

20. Did you really expect any other result?

We back Israel no matter what (and I am talking about the Israeli government, not the people who are pawns like the rest of us ...)

[Bragi]

21. I had a glimmer of hope

Tuesday night I figured the WH could see their way clear to firmly supporting the pro-democracy movement and their demand that Mubaraak leave now.

It was sad to see Obama instead announce incoherent blather about "transitions" "now" when he apparently meant was "maybe there'll be change later on down the road sometime, and Mubarak can stay in charge to direct it."

I can't tell if it was deliberate policy to give Mubarak's regime a new lease on life, or incompetence.

It sure was sad.

[sofa king]

25. Don't be too upset about it. We're still playing for time.

Last night the word went out that all Americans who want to leave have to leave today (and, no doubt, tomorrow).

Once that duty is satisfied, and not before, the President will have more freedom to choose a side. I still rather hope he doesn't, as a backing from America over there probably carries about as much weight as a backing from Osama bin Laden goes over here.

But there's a really, really good reason for not drawing a line, today. And probably tomorrow, too.

[sofa king]

26. ...And there we are.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/Obama-Egypt-Transition-Should-Begin-Now-115332084.html

Obama: Egypt Transition Should Begin Now

[Lucian]

23. It would be nice if we knew what the hell you were talking about.

Some of us aren't mind readers.

[Octafish]

27. NGU, Brother Sir.

Our side will win.

Until that day, the other side will apparently control all the microphones, television and related mind control apparatus they can apply to keep power and gain profit. We don't have much of either, going from all the friends Wall Street and the War Party have in Congress.

All we got is the Truth. And Good People -- We the People Good. And these are the sources of true power and wealth.

[stevedeshazer]

29. +1