Being in law enforcement is dangerous and the number of policemen attacked and some killed is

[mfcorey1]

frightening. These are all recent:

Detroit......attacked as gunman walks in precinct and opens fire

Miami...two policemen killed serving a warrant

Seattle....policemen killed

Broward County, Florida.....police followed and perpetrators attempt an ambush

Atlanta.....officer killed after traffic stop

And there are many more.

Is there a site that list officers in the United States who have died in call of duty?


Total Line of Duty Deaths: 11
Automobile accident: 2
Gunfire: 6
Gunfire (Accidental): 1
Heart attack: 1
Struck by vehicle: 1


By Month:
January: 11


By State:
Florida: 3
Maryland: 1
Michigan: 1
New Jersey: 1
Ohio: 1
Oregon: 1
South Carolina: 1
Texas: 2

[KansasVoter]

1. Yet the police tend to support more gun rights. Does not make sense!

[Maine_Nurse]

6. My son is a deputy

and he strongly supports firearms rights as he understands that the people who are affected by firearms laws, law-abiding citizens, are not the ones he needs to worry about. He sees the crap out there. He wants his wife able to be armed.

[KansasVoter]

11. Dumb logic!

[Pancho Sanza]

13. I'm betting you never heard of Dale Carnegie...

:eyes:

[KansasVoter]

23. Yes, did you fall for his scam?

[jeepnstein]

16. Not really.

Most police officers have seen enough out of people to understand that the overwhelming bulk of society is peaceful, law-abiding, and downright responsible. It's quite possible for a normal citizen to go years and years with absolutely no contact with the police. It matters not one bit to me what kinds of arms these people own because they're not all that likely to go around doing anything really moronic with them.

We get to deal with the folks who couldn't get along no matter the circumstance. You know, they're criminals and they make all sorts of decisions that make you wonder about them. They're constantly into something. And they are either stupid or desperate at times. The ones shooting at the police have all sorts of red flags about their behavior and we just keep turning them loose on the hope that they'll do better next time. Criminals are a real problem for police.

The only thing gun control does is give power to statists who really don't trust the average citizen. It's no surprise to me that Dick Cheney is calling for new gun control measures in the face of the Arizona shooting. His kind would prefer to keep normal folks as submissive as possible.

[KansasVoter]

24. Wow, not the government wants to take us over shit?

[jeepnstein]

28. Nah, then they'd have to feed us.

Cheney and his ilk, of which one must assume you are one, just want the state to have a monopoly on the self defense racket. They don't trust citizens with their rights.

How did the concealed carry class go for you? Did you ever attend and see what it was like?

[Maine_Nurse]

25. Not dumb, practical

He realizes that he also lives in a rural community with no police force. When at home, his wife is about 30 minutes from a police response. I'm about 45 minutes away from one where I live. As low as our violent crime rate is here, such rural residences are increasingly the targets of home invasions because of lack of police. About a month ago in a community in the next county over, a homeowner was woken up by a woman pounding on his door claiming a car accident. She lured him outside. Thankfully he had grabbed a pistol on his way out. As he exited, the male partner of the female (they were armed with pepper spray, handcuffs, tazer, and firearm) sprayed him and they started to beat him. The homeowner was able to kill the male attacker and drive off the female. The homeowner then retreated to his house and grabbed serious firepower while he waited for the police to arrive. It was not a short wait. The couple have since been implicated in numerous rural burglaries and a few more home invasions.

Police know that they are not able to prevent or stop crimes, generally only respond after the fact. They do not protect/defend us, that is up to us ourselves.

[KansasVoter]

26. And I can show you 1000 accidental shootings every year. So what?

[Maine_Nurse]

30. Thankfully...

although the scumbag population is slowly increasing, we live in an area where firearms are a way of life and we don't have many unintentional shootings. In fact, we have just about as many legal shootings/killings (police or self-defense) as we do illegal ones. Keep in mind that we only had 12 illegal firearms homicides in the entire state for the last compiled year (2009 I think), so its not a lot anyways.

[KansasVoter]

27. What city was this in?

[Maine_Nurse]

29. City? Hehehehehe

Eastbrook has a population of around 370. Here is their wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastbrook,_Maine

Some info on the shooting and the scumbags is at: http://maineblues.blogspot.com/2010/12/arrest-made-in-relation-to-eastbrook.html

More has come out about said scumbags since the incident in regards to even more burglaries and home invasions that the pair committed.

[Ghost in the Machine]

31. How would you know logic if you saw it?

Hyperbolic Nanny-Staters are usually in short supply of logic. Here's an idea... go see how many stories you can find about cops shooting, tazing and killing innocent people...

[FarPoint]

2. On New Years Day in the Dayton Ohio area

A female Sheriff Deputy was shot and killed.

[ScreamingMeemie]

3. Livonia (outside of Detroit), MI--officer killed last week

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=C4&Date=20110117&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=101170802&Ref=PH&Params=

Trying to bust up a burglary ring.

[Contrary1]

4. The Officer Down Memorial Page:

http://www.odmp.org/

This 2nd link will take you to an officer I knew personally. Jerry was my brother's best friend. He was a hell of a nice guy.

I last saw him a couple months before he died. He was hired to walk around a school carnival, and keep an eye on things. I commented that the department finally trusted him enough to issue him a gun, how many more years before he got the bullets to go with it.

We still miss him.

http://www.odmp.org/officer/5744-officer-gerald-f.-(jerry)-griffin

[mfcorey1]

5. So sorry for your lost. Law enforcement many times is a thankless job until one of them dies. nt

[Recursion]

7. We had been going in the right direction for years

If this is an upswing rather than noise, we need to figure out what's changed.

[Mojorabbit]

22. I agree

This is very weird. I know part of it might be copycat behavior but it is a pretty significant uptick.

[Obamanaut]

8. Two more in this thread, link ->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x258909

[travelingtypist]

9. I guess I was in my 40s when I finally went from seeing cops as being the enemy

to being grateful for the thin blue line and smiling at them and saying thank you.

[atreides1]

15. I've always seen the police as human beings

They can either succeed or fail based on what they do, and how they act.

The thing that upsets the balance in my view is that very seldom are they held to a higher standard then those who do not wear a badge.

My sympathies to those officers who have died in the line of duty, and to their families, and my hope that those who were wounded heal quickly.

[travelingtypist]

20. I have a felony conviction from my 20s that colored my view.

Gun crime, I "accidentally" shot my brother, bad choices, blah, blah, blah. I got five years probation, but it warped my view of cops and what they do. I work from home so I never have to answer the question "have you ever been convicted of a felony." But in my work as a transcriptionist, I'm a fly on the wall with cops interviewing witnesses and suspects. Sometimes I need soul bleach after listening to some of that shit, gives me a new perspective on how people can be close to the violence every day and not know if they'll make it to the end of their shift.

[chillspike]

10. If you find that list...

...I'd like to contrast that with officer deaths in Japan, where citizens don't have guns.

[MadHound]

12. One hundred and sixty two police were killed in the line of duty last year,

Fifty nine were killed by gunfire.

The question becomes how many wrongful civilian deaths were committed by police last year.

Sadly, and interestingly, such statistics aren't kept. The rough average is that two hundred people are shot by police each year. This doesn't include deaths caused by high speed chases and such. Just shot. Other interesting thought, approximately one third of the people who are shot by police are unarmed.

Hmmm.

[jotsy]

14. Can't cite these as statistics,

but I'm sure such things are tracked, just not touted.

<http://www.portlandcopwatch.org/listofshootings.html>

[MadHound]

17. You're right, the sort of stats I'm looking for aren't touted,

In fact they're probably not even kept. But I guess more people die at the hands of the police than police dying at the hands of civilians.

[2Design]

18. Wonder about karma

At one time, police were who you went to when you needed help but seeing brutality makes you not want to get help
Old people being tazer because they don't want to take an ambulance because they can't afford it

Them hiding on the side of roads and under underpasses trying to catch speeders. If they want people to slow down, put a car out in the open. It is the sneaky stuff, that is karma

i am sorry they are being targeted. There are too many guns on the streets in the wrong hands and they are easily gotten for ill intent. I am against guns

We train our young people to kill in other countries against hyped up enemies. How can we be surprised?

My prayers can not stop bullets.

[Common Sense Party]

21. So, you are saying the police brought this on themselves?

Also, You say: "I am against guns." What does that mean?

[TheKentuckian]

19. and?

[Contrary1]

32. 11 Officers Killed in 24 Hours in 5 States

:(

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - When two wounded law officers were rushed from the scene of a deadly shooting Monday morning on Florida's Gulf Coast, someone handed St. Petersburg Police Chief Chuck Harmon a ring, two bracelets and a badge.

They belonged to Sgt. Thomas Baitinger and Officer Jeffrey Yaslowitz, who died from the wounds they sustained helping to serve a warrant on a man with a long criminal history.

"I'm having a hard time letting go of them," said Harmon, whose hands shook as he held the dead officers' mementos.

These were the latest police killings in a month that already proved fatal for 14 law officers across the nation. In just a 24-hour period between Sunday and Monday, 11 officers were shot in five states, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.

More: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/24/national/main7279747.shtml

[Contrary1]

33. Update on police officer shot in Indianapolis:

Life support will be discontinued, and his organs will be donated for transplant.

The asshole who shot him four times was a career criminal and peroled by mistake.

Rest in peace, Officer David Moore.