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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-12 09:13 PM
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History indicates that a Romney presidency would be very difficult for the country.
Going back at least to LBJ, Republicans have inherited better economies than they have left for their predecessors. Nixon had a "secret strategy" to stop the war in Vietnam in 1968 when he was running for President. However, when he was forced from office in 1974, the war was still going on and the country was sliding into our first post-WWII inflationary period. It hit hardest when Gerald Ford was in office in 1975 and 1976, when he created the WIN (Whip Inflation Now) buttons as a way to battle the high prices. At the same time, we had the first oil shock, with long lines at the gas stations for the first time. That was what Jimmy Carter inherited in January, 1977, on top of the trust lost in the Watergate scandal.

Jimmy Carter made a valiant effort to bring down the price of oil by cutting back on foreign consumption. He was ridiculed for suggesting people turn their thermostats back by 3-4 degrees and he even put solar panels on the roof of the White House. However, when Ronald Reagan took over in January, 1981, Jimmy Carter had put the country on a more stable path of energy independence. Ronald Reagan removed the solar panels and the American people sank back into complacency.

By the time Reagan and Bush I had finished their 12 years, the economy was surviving mostly on Keynesian spending and tax cuts for the wealthy. Unfortunately, they created record deficits that had the American people, including Ross Perot, very concerned about the direction our country was headed. Once again, a Democrat, Bill Clinton inherited their mess.

After 8 years of the Clinton Presidency, in which he was impeached, the economy was at full employment and for the first time since LBJ, the country had another balanced budget. Once again, the Democrat, with a shovel and a broom, had cleaned up the Republican economic mess. He left a balanced budget and a projected surplus with the entire debt paid off by 2011, to George W Bush.

Rarely in our history, if ever, has there been a presidency as disastrous as that of George W Bush. He demolished the balanced budget and the surplus after his first year in office, by passing humongous taxcuts for the wealthiest people in the country. On top of that, after the WTC was attacked, he borrowed the money to fight two wars, one in Afghanistan and one in Iraq. The wars dragged on for his entire two terms. On top of all that, he presided over the worst collapse in our economy since the Great Depression. The danger to the economy and to our system itself may have been even greater than the Great Depression.

Enter the next Democrat, Barack Obama. The economy collapsing, the stock market dropping like a rock, the mortgage bubble popping everywhere, job losses at more than a million every two months. 401K retirement incomes disappearing. That is the mess that Barack Obama inherited.

Now, as we enter into the last few months of the Obama Presidency, the economy has not fully recovered. It is still in a very fragile condition. It was in such severe condition that the Democrat could not fix it in four years. The wrong decisions could send us back into a tail spin at any time.

Unlike his Republican predecessors, Mitt Romney would not have an economy that has been fixed by the Democrat. There is no room for Republican mistakes this time around. If we attempt the same Republican policies once again, there is little Democratic cushion to save us from the impact that it will have on all of America. History indicates, in my opinion, that a Romney presidency will be devastating for the poor and average working folks.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-12 10:45 PM
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1. That's A Very Generous Way Of Putting It
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-12 02:09 PM
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3. yeah, to be blunt, the RW MF'er will destroy the last remainders of the middle class & unions!
Edited on Sun Jun-17-12 02:10 PM by Divine Discontent
they won't stop til they have destroyed the unions, esp. the teacher's & gov't sector unions. People who are struggling always look to those with decent jobs who make $20/hr-40/hr in gov't and say, hey, if we're working for $12 why do they get to have those benefits and good pay! It's a sick cycle of pitting working class against each other, meanwhile, the Koch bros and other fatcats roll in millions of weekly profits from our hard labor...
Taxes must be raised on the wealthy - NOW!

Get it here now, or one of a million other designs!

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-12 01:56 PM
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2. kentuck, the thought has passed my mind a time or two, what this country will become if he is placed
in power... I am pretty certain we will be immensely saddled with a heavy burden to care for those less fortunate, disabled, with several children, and the aged. The nation will see billions of dollars cut from social services and the rich will see their taxes decrease. Their will be a heavy burden, even more so than now, on the working class to care for those they know who are struggling. This country will become fully dependent on the rich to provide us with jobs to meet these increased outside needs caused by lowering the taxes on the wealthy and corporations. We all know that providing the rich with more money does nothing, because if that were the case the past ten years, then we should be at full employment in this country (4% or so unemployment).

God help us if that sleazy super-rich chameleon gets into office. These folks who hate Obama are in for a righteous awakening if they put that disgusting politician with a swiss bank account into office! He's nothing a but a vulture capitalist who believes in making money however your business can, and he doesn't understand the common working man and woman.

Also, prepare for direct attacks on the environment, women's rights, gay rights, higher education, increased military activity, and so forth...

Middle America better see through his sheep's clothing that's promising jobs like he did when he ran for governor!

Get it now, or one of a million other designs!
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-12 08:01 PM
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4. what would happen really is the 2nd great depression
I can't imagine what american public would elect someone who is maybe 3 times as bad as Bush. Bush had Dick. and even some things Bush wouldn't let Dick do. So it Mitt gets a VP who thinks he's the president. it could be really bad.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-12 11:05 PM
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5. yeah, I was telling my friend that the other day about B*sh stopping all of Dicky boy's plans
and I agree, if rMoney gets in, it will be the end of us - I cannot imagine 30 years ago any American being happy to put a vulture capitalist in as the party's nominee! it's just laughable!

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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-12 07:39 AM
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6. It's Obama's/Dems' fault for not shoring up the liberal base
Yes, I know he was faced with a crappy Congress, but he did too many things wrong that people remember. Things like excluding people who wanted to bring single payer and the public option to the health care reform table. Or things like telling the real Democrats in Congress to leave blue dogs like "Mad Max" and Ben Nelson alone.

His stimulus plan helped--a lot. And it would have helped more if he hadn't kept caving in to the Republicans, even when we had the super majority.

Things got worse after the mid-terms, of course. Much worse. While ordinary people are struggling to get by, they aren't reading the in-depth news stories, where the truth lives. They don't have time. They're too busy trying to find jobs, pinch pennies, and eat.

All they get out of this is: The economy still sucks, therefore Obama is no better than Bush. Let's try yet another guy.

That's where Romney comes in.

Never mind that he would destroy this country even faster than Bush did. People don't have the time or ability to study what's really going on. They're too busy...and too panicked.

All because Obama AND the Democrats didn't do what they should have, when they could have.

I weep to think what this country will become, if the repukes are once again allowed to run us further into the ground again. Yes, people will realize they made a big mistake, but it will be too late.

I sure hope Obama can smack down Romney in the debates, so swing voters will realize the truth before voting day.
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mercymechap Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-12 09:17 PM
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8. Come on, many of the things Obama did at first were due
to the fact that he was trying to be bi-partisan. Too bad that it just happened to be at the time when he had the majority and would have been able to do what he really wanted to do, but how was he to know that it was going to come to an end so soon - sooner than what Republicans are now trying to imply - that he had 2 years of majority? That's BS, he only had it for about 9 months. By the time he realized that Republicans were not going to budge, it was too late, he had lost his majority and the bastards were determined to oppose him on everything. His stimulus plan would have helped more if he had been able to pull it off with the amount he first wanted, but unfortunately, in order to get some Republicans on board he had to cut it way back. Even so, the Stimulus did help, but Republicans are insistent that it did nothing but increase the debt.

Yes, the economy may still not be where we would like it to be, but let's quit blaming Obama when he has to fight not only the obstruction in the House of Representatives, but also the attacks that are being made by Issa and some of the others to draw Holder away from the real issue, their scheme to disenfranchise liberals in Florida.

If Romney gets in, you can kiss goodbye to another Democrat ever being president. We've already seen what the Koch brother's money was able to do in Wisconsin, they will do the same for the country. The Supreme Court will become all Republican and if they are able to keep the House and get the Senate, it's all over for Democrats. Anything that they are not able to get past the House and Senate (if they don't happen to be Republican majority) will be forwarded to the Supreme Court, where you know what happens by just remembering 2000.

If Democrats don't get their act together and support Obama (regardless of things that he has done that not all Democrats approved of) instead of dissing him and complaining about some of the things he didn't do because the Republicans in Congress obstructed him, we will have to get used to some of the Tea Party's most archaic beliefs whether we like it or not.

I think Obama will have no problem smacking Romney down in the debates, so far Romney can only promise that he is going to make things better but has never really laid out his plan as to how. The problem will be if the economy still sucks and they are able to purge voters from the rolls as well as continue to lie to the public (Romney's campaign wants Florida's Gov Scott to downplay job gains so the situation continues to look bad) as they have been doing, many people won't care what happens at the debates, they will want the one that promises to make the economy better even if they don't realize that he means for the wealthy.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-12 05:50 AM
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7. That is a possibility...

They are out of touch in a big way.
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