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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 06:12 AM
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In Kim's death, an extensive intelligence failure
Source: New York Times via msnbc

Kim Jong-il, the enigmatic North Korean leader, died on a train at 8:30 a.m. Saturday in his country. Forty-eight hours later, officials in South Korea still did not know anything about it to say nothing of Washington, where the State Department acknowledged press reporting of Mr. Kims death well after North Korean state media had already announced it.

For South Korean and American intelligence services to have failed to pick up any clues to this momentous development panicked phone calls between government officials, say, or soldiers massing around Mr. Kims train attests to the secretive nature of North Korea, a country not only at odds with most of the world but also sealed off from it in a way that defies spies or satellites.

Asian and American intelligence services have failed before to pick up significant developments in North Korea. Pyongyang built a sprawling plant to enrich uranium that went undetected for about a year and a half until North Korean officials showed it off in late 2010 to an American nuclear scientist. The North also helped build a complete nuclear reactor in Syria without tipping off Western intelligence. <snip>

We have clear plans about what to do if North Korea attacks, but not if the North Korean regime unravels, said Michael J. Green, a former Asia adviser in the Bush administration. Every time you do these scenarios, one of the first objectives is trying to find out whats going on inside North Korea.

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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 10:50 AM
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1. Our intellegence system is set up to start wars and spread lies
most of the "intel" they get is just their own bullshit being spun back at them like the WMD's in Iraq.
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Huey P. Long Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-11 11:30 AM
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2. Failed to predict the fall of USSR, claimed failure to 'imagine' 9/11
(even though internal documents and exercises belie that), failure, failure, failure.
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